2024-25 NFL Thread

[Jockey]

He is in the discussion.   Over the last 6 games, he has been more efficient than any QB in any 6 game stretch ever.
   For me, it is Mahomes because the Chiefs are undefeated and he is doing it through an endless string of injuries to his offensive weapons.

I agree it would be Mahomes IF Chiefs stay undefeated.

[tower912]

Goff's consideration will inevitably lead to revisiting the game manager discussion.
Example: The Green Bay game.
Goff: 18-22, 145 yards.  But!  His average attempt was 3.7 yards past the line of scrimmage.  Take out the wounded duck to LaPorta, and it is 3 yards.  His 17 other completions averaged being caught 3 yards past the line of scrimmage and 7+ yards in total.

So, MVP who takes what the defense gave him in inclement conditions or game manager?

[WhiteTrash]

Bears should be playing Herbert instead of trading him. But they overpaid for Swift, so.........

This is true. The Bears should definitely be sellers but don't agree with this move. But Flus has his favorites and Herbert and Kmet are not on the "Liked" list.

[MU82]

Goff's consideration will inevitably lead to revisiting the game manager discussion.
Example: The Green Bay game.
Goff: 18-22, 145 yards.  But!  His average attempt was 3.7 yards past the line of scrimmage.  Take out the wounded duck to LaPorta, and it is 3 yards.  His 17 other completions averaged being caught 3 yards past the line of scrimmage and 7+ yards in total.

So, MVP who takes what the defense gave him in inclement conditions or game manager?

He did what was necessary in this game. In other games that didn't have those conditions, he was willing and able to throw downfield, and he did so well. He's having a hell of a season, almost always making the right decisions and executing a winning plan. Sounds MVP worthy to me.

[tower912]

I agree with all of that and agree that at the halfway point he is worthy of being in the discussion.

[JWags85]

Goff's consideration will inevitably lead to revisiting the game manager discussion.
Example: The Green Bay game.
Goff: 18-22, 145 yards.  But!  His average attempt was 3.7 yards past the line of scrimmage.  Take out the wounded duck to LaPorta, and it is 3 yards.  His 17 other completions averaged being caught 3 yards past the line of scrimmage and 7+ yards in total.

So, MVP who takes what the defense gave him in inclement conditions or game manager?

No to shade you, but I think anyone calling him a "game manager" has a bias or is just cynical.  He plays within himself when things aren't perfect but unleashes hell when its set up.  Like the Tennessee game.  He only had 85 yards...GAME MANAGER!!!...but he was 12-15 and had 3 TDS and 130 rating, Defense and Special Teams did most of the heavy lifting.

The 3 games before? 296 YPG, 7 TDs, around 14 yards per attempt, and zero INTs.  Hasn't thrown a pick in 5 weeks.  He's an efficient sniper and has aired it out plenty. And he hasn't had a truly bad game, unlike Mahomes total dud against SF 2 weeks ago and a pretty mediocre game against Cincy.

[tower912]

I don't feel shaded.  Like I said, he is worthy of being in the MVP discussion at the halfway point of the season.  More td's than incompletions over the last 6 games and most efficient 6 game stretch ever. Awesome stuff. A really nice harmony of OC and QB and effectively using the weapons and OL at their disposal.   
   I am predicting that as the MVP talks continue, the game manager discussion will happen.   

[Pakuni]

Goff's consideration will inevitably lead to revisiting the game manager discussion.
Example: The Green Bay game.
Goff: 18-22, 145 yards.  But!  His average attempt was 3.7 yards past the line of scrimmage.  Take out the wounded duck to LaPorta, and it is 3 yards.  His 17 other completions averaged being caught 3 yards past the line of scrimmage and 7+ yards in total.

So, MVP who takes what the defense gave him in inclement conditions or game manager?

You've pretty much just described the Chiefs' offense the past two seasons.
Mahomes' air yards/attempt this year is 3.6, good for 37th in the league.
Last year it was 3.5.
For comparison's sake, Goff is at 4.4 this year and 4.5 last year.

[Uncle Rico]

Packers trade Preston Smith to the Steelers

[Pakuni]

Someone explain the Cowboys trade for Jonathan Mingo.

[tower912]

Dallas is poorly run.

[RJax55]

Someone explain the Cowboys trade for Jonathan Mingo.

The GM is 82 years old.

[JWags85]

Someone explain the Cowboys trade for Jonathan Mingo.

Jerry thought Mingo would look great opposite Parsons, but nobody was brave enough to tell him that he was thinking Barkevious Mingo and that he'd been out of the league for a few years.

[MU82]

Packers trade Preston Smith to the Steelers

Damn ... he was the Pack's best player!

[The Sultan]

Someone explain the Cowboys trade for Jonathan Mingo.

https://x.com/ProFootballTalk/status/1854171873614971141

[Pakuni]

https://x.com/ProFootballTalk/status/1854171873614971141

Not sure they couldn't have just as easily drafted a comparable WR with that pick and had him around for four years instead of two, and with a smaller contract.
Maybe they something in Mingo that he hasn't shown in his first 1.5 seasons.

[The Sultan]

Not sure they couldn't have just as easily drafted a comparable WR with that pick and had him around for four years instead of two, and with a smaller contract.
Maybe they something in Mingo that he hasn't shown in his first 1.5 seasons.

Apparently they liked him and were going to draft him last year in the second round, but Carolina picked him up.

Jerry often gets fixated on specific guys.

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

I'll be in Munich.
And I'm a Giants fan.  Although I'm arriving a day too late for the game. I'm visiting company HQ near Frankfurt on Monday then headed to exhibit at a trade show that starts Tuesday. 

[Uncle Rico]

Apparently they liked him and were going to draft him last year in the second round, but Carolina picked him up.

Jerry often gets fixated on specific guys.

Jerry is an idiot

[PGsHeroes32]

Impressive half for the Bengals in Baltimore

Burrow has been very shaky at times forcing throws. Missing wide open guys. Had a pick luckily over turned. Seems to never seen Brown wide open for easy dump offs.

But has also made a few really nice plays to extend drives and get points. And the D has been excellent on a juggernaut offense

Also slick play call on that 4th and inches where they direct snapped

[PGsHeroes32]

Damn. Bengals dominating and then 1 bad turnover shifts momentum.

Lamar with a classic Lamar type run.

[PGsHeroes32]

Wild ass game holy crap.

Think the Bengals were definitely right to go for 2 there on the road. Especially with how Ravens were humming. Not sure why they called the TO to reset to different formation tho.

[MU82]

Wild ass game holy crap.

Think the Bengals were definitely right to go for 2 there on the road. Especially with how Ravens were humming. Not sure why they called the TO to reset to different formation tho.

The Ravens committed at least 2 penalties on the 2-point attempt that the refs either missed or refused to call because they wanted to "let the players decide the game." Ridiculous.

[The Sultan]

The Ravens committed at least 2 penalties on the 2-point attempt that the refs either missed or refused to call because they wanted to "let the players decide the game." Ridiculous.

Two borderline infractions at best. Glad a usually over legislated league kept the flags in the pockets.

[Pakuni]

The Ravens committed at least 2 penalties on the 2-point attempt that the refs either missed or refused to call because they wanted to "let the players decide the game." Ridiculous.

Giesecki did himself no favors by flopping so hard Neymar blushed.