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Pakuni

Quote from: WhiteTrash on November 03, 2024, 07:00:23 PMIf the Bears are going to tell Williams not to throw to Kmet, why not trade him for anything you can get?

Another power move by Flus, Stevenson gets to play and Kmet is frozen out. That's how you command respect from your players.  ::)

Do you really think they're telling Williams not to throw to Kmet? Why?

The Sultan

Quote from: Pakuni on November 03, 2024, 07:02:02 PMI'm not so sure. For most of them, the Bears is all they've got and what they've built their lives/identities around. They may be willing to sell some minority stakes, but I'd be surprised if the generation below Virginia (led by George) sell a controlling interest.

The people below them want the cash.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

WhiteTrash

Quote from: Pakuni on November 03, 2024, 07:02:02 PMI'm not so sure. For most of them, the Bears is all they've got and what they've built their lives/identities around. They may be willing to sell some minority stakes, but I'd be surprised if the generation below Virginia (led by George) sell a controlling interest.
Who knows for sure, but I think Satan is more correct. They have essentially no liquidity (in an NFL/pro sports owner way). It is very normal in any business for the family owned  enterprises to splinter and divest as it passes generations. Perhaps they will retain a minority interest. But, who knows. 

WhiteTrash

Quote from: Pakuni on November 03, 2024, 07:03:13 PMDo you really think they're telling Williams not to throw to Kmet? Why?
Perhaps his comments this week were not received well?

WhiteTrash


Dish

Bears future all depends on what happens to Virginia's shares upon her death. She has 11 kids, 40 grandkids/great grandkids. That's a lot of shares to divide up. Let's not forget Pat Ryan is 87 years old and the second largest shareholder (there's really only three voting shareholders).

Knowing the family (and a number of grandchildren eager to sell), I'd be surprised if the franchise stays in the family upon Virginia's death.

WhiteTrash

Flus need to go, but in fairness he took some responsibility in today's PC. I'm shocked, but I need to share when he does the right thing along with the bad.

MuggsyB

Quote from: WhiteTrash on November 03, 2024, 07:39:45 PMFlus need to go, but in fairness he took some responsibility in today's PC. I'm shocked, but I need to share when he does the right thing along with the bad.

That's fine but 3-18 on the road is hard to defend.

The Sultan

Sam Darnold isn't going to go far in the playoffs.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

forgetful

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on November 03, 2024, 08:02:55 PMSam Darnold isn't going to go far in the playoffs.

He certainly isn't looking good right now.

tower912

Should have been a penalty on the strip sack.  Blow to the head.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

The Sultan

By the way, I am trying to figure out a call in the Rams v Seahawks game. They called pass interference on a play where the receiver actually caught the ball well out of bounds.

Wouldn't that automatically mean it's an uncatchable pass?
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

tower912

The defender made contact, pushed the receiver out of bounds, past 5 yards and while the ball was in the air. 
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

The Sultan

Quote from: tower912 on November 03, 2024, 08:10:15 PMThe defender made contact, pushed the receiver out of bounds, past 5 yards and while the ball was in the air. 

So shouldn't it have been illegal contact?
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

The Sultan

Apparently Jim Irsay's daughter is on the Colts sideline with a play sheet and headset???
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

tower912

I was curious about that, too.  There was quite the confab between the officials and that is where they landed.

BTW, how about that game winner from Stafford?
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

The Sultan

Quote from: tower912 on November 03, 2024, 08:15:40 PMI was curious about that, too.  There was quite the confab between the officials and that is where they landed.

BTW, how about that game winner from Stafford?

Great pass. Great catch.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MU82

Seahawks gave away the game. Geno Smith threw two horrendous, unnecessary interceptions from inside the 10, one of which was returned a zillion yards for a TD, and then the coach effed up royally in OT.

Good on the Rams - they knew what to do after Seattle went into gift-giving mode.
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Pakuni

The Luke Getsy era in Vegas is over.


WhiteTrash

I get the feeling, and I'm far from alone on this, that the Bears may only win the NE game strictly on superior talent and being at home. The players don't trust the coaches and Flus looked and sounded like a lame duck coach in his presser.

Crazy how one game can derail an entire season, but Flus has nobody to blame but himself.

I say one game, but it appears they have had underlying issues going back to preseason, so the real story is not just one game. Maybe the correct assessment is it took one game to expose this team.

Outside of Flus getting a DUI or something crazy, he will get the rest of the year then be fired.

Dish


The Sultan

Quote from: DegenerateDish on November 04, 2024, 08:59:47 AMSaints fire Dennis Allen


And this is what his successor is in for because they never even thought about rebuilding after Payton left.

https://x.com/Jason_OTC/status/1853454874651791799
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

jesmu84

Quote from: wadesworld on November 02, 2024, 06:40:47 AMThis might be what you're saying, but I think Trubisky and Fields just aren't good quarterbacks. It's not like they left and killed it elsewhere, unlike someone like Sam Darnold or Malik Willis who got to a good situation and look like good QBs.

Were they good QBs? No. But as an organization, they've screwed up with their last 3 drafted QBs.

https://x.com/walkerRcarey/status/1853221576369459654

The Sultan

"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

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