Twitter Reading Limits

[Shaka Shart]

Running to Zuckerberg to own Musk, very progressive.

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Screw musk and his toxic stupid app! I'd much rather go to threads where the apps creator only influenced a presidential election, sold users information and then would own Facebook, instagram and theoretically a newer more popular twitter. Controlling the news anyone?

And that's just shows how much people despise Elon. The dude can't stay out of his own way.

[Uncle Rico]

Running to Zuckerberg to own Musk, very progressive.

Wow, you think there are that many progressives? 

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Screw musk and his toxic stupid app! I'd much rather go to threads where the apps creator only influenced a presidential election, sold users information and then would own Facebook, instagram and theoretically a newer more popular twitter. Controlling the news anyone?

Like Putin and Prigozhin, there is no good guy.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Wow, you think there are that many progressives?

81 million of em.  🙄

[tower912]

You say progressive.   I say rational lovers of democracy.

[lawdog77]

You say progressive.   I say rational lovers of democracy.

Rational people don't spend a lot of time on social media.

[MU82]

The number of views for Tucker Carlson's new show on Twitter has dropped by 86% since its launch

https://www.businessinsider.com/tucker-carlson-on-twitter-views-drop-86-percent-since-launch-2023-7?campaign_id=4&emc=edit_dk_20230711&instance_id=97225&nl=dealbook&regi_id=108420427&segment_id=138985&te=1&user_id=d36dcf821462fdd16ec3636710a855fa

Earlier this year, Tucker Carlson went from Fox News' most popular primetime host to a fired ex-employee.

He at first seemed to recover quickly.

The famous conservative television personality launched a new show, Tucker on Twitter, which debuted in June with what appeared to be strong ratings. His first show garnered more than 26 million "video views," a Twitter metric that counts a view as anyone who watches a video for more than 2 seconds.

It's not the most reliable metric for the popularity of a show since many people might just be scrolling past it. But whatever the faults of the metric, it has declined significantly over the course of his last eight shows. His most recent show, for instance, only got 3.8 million video views.

That's an 86% drop.

Carlson's video views on Twitter — which are no longer publicly available due to a policy change at Twitter — were first reported by Matt Binder, a reporter with digital news site Mashable, who told Insider he accessed them by using an old version of the Twitter app for Android.

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

Rational people don't spend a lot of time on social media.

I dont know that this is true.  You may have a point about people that get into 'comment' fighting or think the comment section represents the real world.  But social media is full of normal people.

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

Running to Zuckerberg to own Musk, very progressive.

This just shows how much dislike there is for the 'product enhancements' on twitter. If the product remained good/consistent, people would gripe but ultimately wouldn't change their behavior/actions. 

[The Sultan]

Let's face it. This is not a reaction to Twitter - it is all about Musk.

I don't think this is the case at all. The problem is that the main "tweeters" are frustrated because their comments have become less manageable now that prioritization is given to blue checks, which are oftentimes just spammers. On top of it, they lost their blue checks, which was a sign they were actually who they said they were.

I will stay on Twitter as long as the ones I care to follow stay there. When they migrate over to Threads or another platform, I will follow.

Of course Twitter had problems before Musk got there. But he has literally made the platform worse. That's why people are leaving.

This just shows how much dislike there is for the 'product enhancements' on twitter. If the product remained good/consistent, people would gripe but ultimately wouldn't change their behavior/actions. 

Correct.

[jesmu84]

The number of views for Tucker Carlson's new show on Twitter has dropped by 86% since its launch

https://www.businessinsider.com/tucker-carlson-on-twitter-views-drop-86-percent-since-launch-2023-7?campaign_id=4&emc=edit_dk_20230711&instance_id=97225&nl=dealbook&regi_id=108420427&segment_id=138985&te=1&user_id=d36dcf821462fdd16ec3636710a855fa

Earlier this year, Tucker Carlson went from Fox News' most popular primetime host to a fired ex-employee.

He at first seemed to recover quickly.

The famous conservative television personality launched a new show, Tucker on Twitter, which debuted in June with what appeared to be strong ratings. His first show garnered more than 26 million "video views," a Twitter metric that counts a view as anyone who watches a video for more than 2 seconds.

It's not the most reliable metric for the popularity of a show since many people might just be scrolling past it. But whatever the faults of the metric, it has declined significantly over the course of his last eight shows. His most recent show, for instance, only got 3.8 million video views.

That's an 86% drop.

Carlson's video views on Twitter — which are no longer publicly available due to a policy change at Twitter — were first reported by Matt Binder, a reporter with digital news site Mashable, who told Insider he accessed them by using an old version of the Twitter app for Android.

Yeesh.

I assume heisy will be along soon to dispute this

[JWags85]

I dont know that this is true.  You may have a point about people that get into 'comment' fighting or think the comment section represents the real world.  But social media is full of normal people.

Agreed 1000%.  I often spend 1-2 hours a day on Twitter.  Especially when traveling or other down time.  But I can't remember the last time I posted.  Hell, I havent retweeted in years.  But I find it an immensely valuable tool for news, information, and entertainment.  There are far more like me than the delusional fools who have hundreds of replies a day or whose entire identity is arguing or trolling about politics or sports on there.

[lawdog77]

Agreed 1000%.  I often spend 1-2 hours a day on Twitter.  Especially when traveling or other down time.  But I can't remember the last time I posted.  Hell, I havent retweeted in years.  But I find it an immensely valuable tool for news, information, and entertainment.  There are far more like me than the delusional fools who have hundreds of replies a day or whose entire identity is arguing or trolling about politics or sports on there.

You are assuming you are rational 

[Pakuni]

Agreed 1000%.  I often spend 1-2 hours a day on Twitter.  Especially when traveling or other down time.  But I can't remember the last time I posted.  Hell, I havent retweeted in years.  But I find it an immensely valuable tool for news, information, and entertainment.  There are far more like me than the delusional fools who have hundreds of replies a day or whose entire identity is arguing or trolling about politics or sports on there.

The key to a positive Twitter experience is to never, ever wade into the replies.

[SoCalEagle]

Agreed 1000%.  I often spend 1-2 hours a day on Twitter.  Especially when traveling or other down time.  But I can't remember the last time I posted.  Hell, I havent retweeted in years.  But I find it an immensely valuable tool for news, information, and entertainment.  There are far more like me than the delusional fools who have hundreds of replies a day or whose entire identity is arguing or trolling about politics or sports on there.

So why spend so much time on an app that caters to these people?  Not really challenging you, but I really don't get it.  I hear so often from friends about the drivel on twitter and facebook, yet they spend so much time there.  Uhhhh????

[JWags85]

So why spend so much time on an app that caters to these people?  Not really challenging you, but I really don't get it.  I hear so often from friends about the drivel on twitter and facebook, yet they spend so much time there.  Uhhhh????

Because like Pakuni said, they hang out in the replies.  If you don't dive into the replies you don't come across them.  I remember getting really burnt out and annoyed by Twitter BS about a year ago.  I stayed off the app for a few days, didn't go down any reply rabbit holes, and my experience was infinitely better.   Replies are like comment sections of articles or news sites.  They are ALWAYS a cesspool.  But they are very easy to avoid.  Rex Chapman might spend 94% of his waking hours replying to stuff on Twitter.  But if you don't follow him and don't dive into replies of controversial or viral posts, you don't see him.

90% of the time people complaining about stuff they see on FB is postings by their own friends, families, or associates.  Twitter is different in its span and content that you can quite easily curate your own experience.

Even the "For You" section of Twitter, which has conjured up much annoyance and complaints.  You will see random accounts popping up, but if you don't read them or dive into the replies, they stop appearing shortly.

[Heisenberg]

Earlier, I said I had no opinion about threads. If it gains traction, I will switch.

I have a threads account, and I do not see that traction. It is just another version of Instagram with fewer features, no web-based site (meaning not available on Windows Computers), and it is also not available in the EU.

So, I agree with this story in yesterday's NYT. It does offer anything worthwhile, at least not yet. You have to wonder how long users will be patient with it.

Some have said it might do the opposite of what Zuck wants. It lights a fire under Twitter to heal itself faster than it would have,

Good read

July 11
Why the Early Success of Threads May Crash Into Reality
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/11/technology/threads-zuckerberg-meta-google-plus.html
Mark Zuckerberg has used Meta's might to push Threads to a fast start — but that may only work up to a point.

What comes next is much harder. Mr. Zuckerberg needs people to be able to find friends and influencers on Threads in the serendipitous and sometimes weird ways that Twitter managed to accomplish. He needs to make sure Threads isn't filled with spam and grifters. He needs people to be patient about app updates that are in the works.

In short, he needs users to find Threads compelling enough to keep coming back.

[MU82]

Earlier, I said I had no opinion about threads. If it gains traction, I will switch.

I have a threads account, and I do not see that traction. It is just another version of Instagram with fewer features, no web-based site (meaning not available on Windows Computers), and it is also not available in the EU.

So, I agree with this story in yesterday's NYT. It does offer anything worthwhile, at least not yet. You have to wonder how long users will be patient with it.

Some have said it might do the opposite of what Zuck wants. It lights a fire under Twitter to heal itself faster than it would have,

Good read

July 11
Why the Early Success of Threads May Crash Into Reality
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/11/technology/threads-zuckerberg-meta-google-plus.html
Mark Zuckerberg has used Meta's might to push Threads to a fast start — but that may only work up to a point.

What comes next is much harder. Mr. Zuckerberg needs people to be able to find friends and influencers on Threads in the serendipitous and sometimes weird ways that Twitter managed to accomplish. He needs to make sure Threads isn't filled with spam and grifters. He needs people to be patient about app updates that are in the works.

In short, he needs users to find Threads compelling enough to keep coming back.

We agree - that all could happen. Absolutely.

Of course, the exact opposite could happen, too. Threads could become more user-friendly, it could continue to grow exponentially, and Twitter, already a mega-loser for its owner, could end up being worth as much as a jelly donut.

Or it could be something in between those extremes. Because, you know, we don't know.

Which is why some of us don't make declarative statements like: "All hail the soon-to-be billionaire king-maker" Tucker, because his first Twitter lie-fest had a gajillion views (but 86% fewer than that now, only a month later).

[Heisenberg]

Which is why some of us don't make declarative statements like: "All hail the soon-to-be billionaire king-maker" Tucker, because his first Twitter lie-fest had a gajillion views (but 86% fewer than that now, only a month later).

His latest show dropped yesterday, which is less than 16 hours old, already has 500% more views than his previous show.

[jficke13]

His latest show dropped yesterday, which is less than 16 hours old, already has 500% more views than his previous show.

interviewing Andrew Tate was a good way to corner the incel audience.

[Pakuni]

His latest show dropped yesterday, which is less than 16 hours old, already has 500% more views than his previous show.

Do we need to explain again why Twitter "views" don't mean "viewers"?

[The Sultan]

Do we need to explain again why Twitter "views" don't mean "viewers"?

Based on all of his history here? Yes.

And will probably have to do so a couple additional times too.

[Heisenberg]

Do we need to explain again why Twitter "views" don't mean "viewers"?

Before I brought it up a lot of the people were getting woodys that his views were down, including Viagra82.

So, explain it to them like they are a five-year old or Golden Retriver.

[MU82]

His latest show dropped yesterday, which is less than 16 hours old, already has 500% more views than his previous show.

How many kings has he made yet with his new "views"? Again, you're the one who has claimed to know how this will all turn out.

And I do like that the guy who whines about name-calling comes up with an extremely clever one about a johnson. Because of course.