2023-24 NBA Thread

[MUBurrow]

Or buy Pokemon cards.

But not from Blake Martinez.

[4everwarriors]

So, is this Bucks team ever going to defense, hey?

[MU82]

Charmin-soft Tyler Herro out again with injury. The Heat got better after he got hurt last season.

[GB Warrior]

Imagine if Giannis had a bag

[MuggsyB]

What happened to Lillard?

[Uncle Rico]

What happened to Lillard?

He has diarrhea

[MuggsyB]

Very frustrating last 4 mins for the Bucks. 

[Uncle Rico]

Bucks will win a lot of games and be fun, but they're not winning a title if this doesn't get fixed (It won't)

https://x.com/bucksfilmroom/status/1722962242046468583?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q

[WhiteTrash]

Bucks will win a lot of games and be fun, but they're not winning a title if this doesn't get fixed (It won't)

https://x.com/bucksfilmroom/status/1722962242046468583?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q

That is horrible. 

[MUfan12]

The whole staff stinks. Prunty was brutal last night after Griffin got tossed.

I know he's used Brook in drop more, but last night he's guarding Haliburton on the perimeter down the stretch. Indiana is basically playing 5 out the last 8 minutes. The Bucks built a lead with Bobby and Crowder on the floor, and Prunty brings in Beasley and Payne, two minus defenders, to close the game.

Still seeing too much stubbornness with the defense. This is an old team with some mediocre/bad defenders. Gotta find ways to contain and not extend them too far.

[MuggsyB]

The above comments are 100% correct.  I watched part of the 3rd and 4th quarter last night.  This team is an unmitigated disaster defensively, including their rebounding.  Slow to react, marginal box outs, and they look like they're on skates vs the dribble drive.  You're not doing diddly squat come playoff time if you can't get a stop.  I believe they were up 117-109 with about 4:15 to play.  Indiana proceeded to score on every possession while the Bucks could not execute at all in their half-court offense.  They better make some changes to whatever their philosophy is because tbe result of their putrid defense will be death.   

[MUfan12]

I think they can overcome a middling defense if the offense isn't so labored. And a big part of that is 34 realizing he doesn't need to initiate the offense.

[wadesworld]

https://youtu.be/fE3_WfFei00?si=J72Q7JJwrJ34D28C

lol.

[4everwarriors]

Bucks suck, hey?

[GB Warrior]

They might need to give Bud Craig Counsell money to come back midseason

[MuggsyB]

It's obviously early but the Bucks have simply not been very good.   It's easy to blame the new coach, and he may be terrible, but the players have to step up.  From what I've seen Middleton is nowhere close to being what he was, Lopez may be feeling his age, and most importantly their individual, transition, and collective defense has been down right atrocious. And that includes every guy on the floor.  Maybe this motivates them but they need to figure out how to defend for starters.  Two other glaring stats are they are 29th in rebounding and 28th in assists.  In closing they have a lot or work to do. 

[Silkk the Shaka]

See what they can get from the Heat for Lillard. Peddle his azz!

[Skatastrophy]

See what they can get from the Heat for Lillard. Peddle his azz!

I'd rather the Heat keep Herro. Getting better every year, and he plays hungry

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

I'd rather the Heat keep Herro. Getting better every year, and he plays hungry

Lol. Ok.

[4everwarriors]

Griffin wuz a terrible choice. But #34 picked 'im. Defense and reboundin' sucks, aina.

[wadesworld]

I'd rather the Heat keep Herro. Getting better every year, and he plays hungry

I think fans of every other team in the NBA would also prefer the Heat keep Herro. And probably most front offices, especially with that contract.

[Uncle Rico]

I think fans of every other team in the NBA would also prefer the Heat keep Herro. And probably most front offices, especially with that contract.

Dentists disagree

[JWags85]

Lol. Ok.

Devils advocate, he's not entirely wrong about Herro. He's 23, currently averaging 23/5/5 on 45/41/90 splits.  That's pretty f-ing great for 23.  If it was Herro for Dame straight up, then of course you take Dame.  But Herro plus a bunch of other assets and picks, I don't totally fault Heat fans not wanting to lose Herro as a big piece.

And is that contract THAT bad really? Maybe for trading purposes, but Devin Vassell just got $29/MM a year, same age but markedly inferior statistics.  Cam Johnson just got $25/MM a year and he's way behind Herro production wise.

I know Herro is a regular punching bag here.  But he gets talked about like a late 20s dude averaging 15 a game.   I obviously don't think he's a super max player, but I don't think he's an overpaid joke either and I think he's a very good fit for that team.

[Uncle Rico]

Devils advocate, he's not entirely wrong about Herro. He's 23, currently averaging 23/5/5 on 45/41/90 splits.  That's pretty f-ing great for 23.  If it was Herro for Dame straight up, then of course you take Dame.  But Herro plus a bunch of other assets and picks, I don't totally fault Heat fans not wanting to lose Herro as a big piece.

And is that contract THAT bad really? Maybe for trading purposes, but Devin Vassell just got $29/MM a year, same age but markedly inferior statistics.  Cam Johnson just got $25/MM a year and he's way behind Herro production wise.

I know Herro is a regular punching bag here.  But he gets talked about like a late 20s dude averaging 15 a game.   I obviously don't think he's a super max player, but I don't think he's an overpaid joke either and I think he's a very good fit for that team.

This is fair

[wadesworld]

Devils advocate, he's not entirely wrong about Herro. He's 23, currently averaging 23/5/5 on 45/41/90 splits.  That's pretty f-ing great for 23.  If it was Herro for Dame straight up, then of course you take Dame.  But Herro plus a bunch of other assets and picks, I don't totally fault Heat fans not wanting to lose Herro as a big piece.

And is that contract THAT bad really? Maybe for trading purposes, but Devin Vassell just got $29/MM a year, same age but markedly inferior statistics.  Cam Johnson just got $25/MM a year and he's way behind Herro production wise.

I know Herro is a regular punching bag here.  But he gets talked about like a late 20s dude averaging 15 a game.   I obviously don't think he's a super max player, but I don't think he's an overpaid joke either and I think he's a very good fit for that team.

He's a very good offensive player who shows zero interest (or ability) in defending anyone. Luckily for him it's the perfect spot where Bam, Jimmy, and the coaching staff can help cover that up.

But there's a reason that even with his good offensive production the Heat still stink offensively until Jimmy puts the team on his back in the Playoffs. Herro would be better as an off ball shooter who attacks closeouts than the featured offensive play maker. Aka the Heat's offense in the regular season vs. post season.

Him and Poole are one and the same.