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wadesworld

Pretty crazy that people would trust this.  Just watching this video would make me not get on that thing for even a 50 foot dive.  Hope a good result comes of this, but it's looking pretty unlikely.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29co_Hksk6o

MuggsyB

Quote from: wadesworld on June 20, 2023, 02:54:40 PM
Pretty crazy that people would trust this.  Just watching this video would make me not get on that thing for even a 50 foot dive.  Hope a good results come of this, but it's looking pretty unlikely.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29co_Hksk6o

Hard Pass There.  That's not to say I don't have sympathy but most of the potential outcomes seem bleak.  And who's to know if a nearby Kraken bangerd it or another creature? 

The Sultan

Unless they miraculously survive, I hope they had a sudden blowout that made their deaths relatively quick and painless.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

MuggsyB

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on June 20, 2023, 03:42:08 PM
Unless they miraculously survive, I hope they had a sudden blowout that made their deaths relatively quick and painless.

Good point. 

The Sultan

Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

Uncle Rico

Maybe. But will Creighton and St. John's?
They look like the class of league right now. Have not seen Johnnies play, but Creighton looks awesome.


TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on June 20, 2023, 03:42:08 PM
Unless they miraculously survive, I hope they had a sudden blowout that made their deaths relatively quick and painless.
It would be a blow in via implosion, but yeah, pretty much instantaneous if that is the case.
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

Skatastrophy

Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on June 20, 2023, 05:44:02 PM
It would be a blow in via implosion, but yeah, pretty much instantaneous if that is the case.

I'd consider paying $250k to go out that way

#UnleashSean

Without doing the math, I'd assume, given the same time frame, we could rescue someone on the moon with more likelihood then this rescue.

MuggsyB

Quote from: Skatastrophy on June 20, 2023, 06:12:28 PM
I'd consider paying $250k to go out that way

But wouldn't that depend on your age?

dgies9156

Big question with these is since they don't have windows, what is the point?

rocket surgeon

Quote from: dgies9156 on June 20, 2023, 06:29:09 PM
Big question with these is since they don't have windows, what is the point?

come on dog, there's a window seat from the head.  so you have to have a bm in order to get the best "seat" in the house.  one way to secure that is to drop a stinger.  talk about depleting the O2 levels.  if i'm going to be down there for any period of time with 4 others, me thinks ya gotta have a say in what everyone consumes up to 48 hours pre launch, eyn'a?  no legumes or closing the 'lanche/real chili
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

real chili 83


rocket surgeon

felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands


MuggsyB

Quote from: real chili 83 on June 21, 2023, 05:38:00 AM
Killer manatees.

They're innocent and don't frequent that area. 

forgetful

While I can't imagine how horrific it must be for the individuals on the Submersible, I also can't help but notice the disparity in how we are responding.

Millions are being spent for this search and rescue. But migrant ships go missing all the time, and most countries just look the other way.

Canada is saying the cost doesn't matter, its about saving lives. But we let people starve around the world, or die because they can't afford insulin or access to medical care.

It is a bit enlightening on what we will spend money on to "save lives" and what we just ignore.

I personally, think we should do everything we can to save any and all lives, and hope that the people on Titan are rescued. But I wish the world cared equally about all lives.

The Sultan

Quote from: forgetful on June 21, 2023, 08:13:46 PM
While I can't imagine how horrific it must be for the individuals on the Submersible, I also can't help but notice the disparity in how we are responding.

Millions are being spent for this search and rescue. But migrant ships go missing all the time, and most countries just look the other way.

Canada is saying the cost doesn't matter, its about saving lives. But we let people starve around the world, or die because they can't afford insulin or access to medical care.

It is a bit enlightening on what we will spend money on to "save lives" and what we just ignore.

I personally, think we should do everything we can to save any and all lives, and hope that the people on Titan are rescued. But I wish the world cared equally about all lives.

Yep.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

ZiggysFryBoy

Quote from: forgetful on June 21, 2023, 08:13:46 PM
While I can't imagine how horrific it must be for the individuals on the Submersible, I also can't help but notice the disparity in how we are responding.

Millions are being spent for this search and rescue. But migrant ships go missing all the time, and most countries just look the other way.

Canada is saying the cost doesn't matter, its about saving lives. But we let people starve around the world, or die because they can't afford insulin or access to medical care.

It is a bit enlightening on what we will spend money on to "save lives" and what we just ignore.

I personally, think we should do everything we can to save any and all lives, and hope that the people on Titan are rescued. But I wish the world cared equally about all lives.

Agree 100%.

Jockey

Quote from: forgetful on June 21, 2023, 08:13:46 PM
While I can't imagine how horrific it must be for the individuals on the Submersible, I also can't help but notice the disparity in how we are responding.

Millions are being spent for this search and rescue. But migrant ships go missing all the time, and most countries just look the other way.

Canada is saying the cost doesn't matter, its about saving lives. But we let people starve around the world, or die because they can't afford insulin or access to medical care.

It is a bit enlightening on what we will spend money on to "save lives" and what we just ignore.

I personally, think we should do everything we can to save any and all lives, and hope that the people on Titan are rescued. But I wish the world cared equally about all lives.

If only the migrants were smart enough to be millionaires, we'd hear their stories every day.

MU82

Quote from: forgetful on June 21, 2023, 08:13:46 PM
While I can't imagine how horrific it must be for the individuals on the Submersible, I also can't help but notice the disparity in how we are responding.

Millions are being spent for this search and rescue. But migrant ships go missing all the time, and most countries just look the other way.

Canada is saying the cost doesn't matter, its about saving lives. But we let people starve around the world, or die because they can't afford insulin or access to medical care.

It is a bit enlightening on what we will spend money on to "save lives" and what we just ignore.

I personally, think we should do everything we can to save any and all lives, and hope that the people on Titan are rescued. But I wish the world cared equally about all lives.

Best comment I've seen anywhere about this situation. Thanks for posting.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Hards Alumni

Quote from: forgetful on June 21, 2023, 08:13:46 PM
While I can't imagine how horrific it must be for the individuals on the Submersible, I also can't help but notice the disparity in how we are responding.

Millions are being spent for this search and rescue. But migrant ships go missing all the time, and most countries just look the other way.

Canada is saying the cost doesn't matter, its about saving lives. But we let people starve around the world, or die because they can't afford insulin or access to medical care.

It is a bit enlightening on what we will spend money on to "save lives" and what we just ignore.

I personally, think we should do everything we can to save any and all lives, and hope that the people on Titan are rescued. But I wish the world cared equally about all lives.

I also listen to NPR.  ;D

But yes, it was a great point and puts on display for the world to see how we value life, and who matters.

Scoop Snoop

Quote from: forgetful on June 21, 2023, 08:13:46 PM
While I can't imagine how horrific it must be for the individuals on the Submersible, I also can't help but notice the disparity in how we are responding.

Millions are being spent for this search and rescue. But migrant ships go missing all the time, and most countries just look the other way.

Canada is saying the cost doesn't matter, its about saving lives. But we let people starve around the world, or die because they can't afford insulin or access to medical care.

It is a bit enlightening on what we will spend money on to "save lives" and what we just ignore.

I personally, think we should do everything we can to save any and all lives, and hope that the people on Titan are rescued. But I wish the world cared equally about all lives.

There are rarely posts on the Superbar that we all agree on. This is one of the best I have ever seen. Thank you for posting this.
Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

"All of our answers are unencumbered by the thought process." NPR's Click and Clack of Car Talk.


wadesworld

Sounds like they found a debris field near the Titanic wreckage.

Uncle Rico

Maybe. But will Creighton and St. John's?
They look like the class of league right now. Have not seen Johnnies play, but Creighton looks awesome.


tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: tower912 on June 22, 2023, 05:22:06 PM
Never too soon.

If I die after signing a contract saying I may die, especially attempting something like visiting a sunken ship 3,800 meters in a device without any safety inspection, feel free to mock me
Maybe. But will Creighton and St. John's?
They look like the class of league right now. Have not seen Johnnies play, but Creighton looks awesome.

tower912

#30
Don't  worry.   I know you would expect my A game.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Hards Alumni


MuggsyB


Uncle Rico

Maybe. But will Creighton and St. John's?
They look like the class of league right now. Have not seen Johnnies play, but Creighton looks awesome.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: Uncle Rico on June 22, 2023, 05:33:28 PM
If I die after signing a contract saying I may die, especially attempting something like visiting a sunken ship 3,800 meters in a device without any safety inspection, feel free to mock me

Thanks for your permission.

WellsstreetWanderer

Getting into a container I cannot get out of until someone undoes the bolts is a hard pass. That said I share the sentiments of all that any life loss is tragic

panda

The risk isn't the issue - It's more so the trivializing loss of life because the passengers are well to do.

tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Scoop Snoop

Quote from: panda on June 22, 2023, 08:44:53 PM
The risk isn't the issue - It's more so the trivializing loss of life because the passengers are well to do.

Nailed it.
Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

"All of our answers are unencumbered by the thought process." NPR's Click and Clack of Car Talk.

pbiflyer

Quote from: Scoop Snoop on June 22, 2023, 09:37:20 PM
Nailed it.

Or trivializing hundreds of deaths because they are poor?

cheebs09

Quote from: panda on June 22, 2023, 08:44:53 PM
The risk isn't the issue - It's more so the trivializing loss of life because the passengers are well to do.

I don't know that it's people trivializing the deaths due to their wealth. I think it has more to do that there were obvious red flags that showed this was likely to happen.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: cheebs09 on June 22, 2023, 10:52:35 PM
I don't know that it's people trivializing the deaths due to their wealth. I think it has more to do that there were obvious red flags that showed this was likely to happen.

Correct.  Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. 

No one mentioned the kids who starved to death this week in Yemen, nor any of the other countless tragedies that occur daily.

But heaven forbid someone make a joke about five dead people who ignored warnings and met their death instantly and painlessly.

The Sultan

Yeah, I mean when the world's attention is focused on five rich guys who died in a sub standard submersible to visit the remains of a passenger ship that sunk 100+ years ago, versus the hundreds of migrants who sank to the bottom of the Mediterranean a few days ago trying to make a better life for themselves, I don't really want to hear lectures on trivializing people's deaths.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

jesmu84

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on June 23, 2023, 07:14:47 AM
Yeah, I mean when the world's attention is focused on five rich guys who died in a sub standard submersible to visit the remains of a passenger ship that sunk 100+ years ago, versus the hundreds of migrants who sank to the bottom of the Mediterranean a few days ago trying to make a better life for themselves, I don't really want to hear lectures on trivializing people's deaths.

Yea. But those rich folks did things the right/legal way

Hards Alumni

Quote from: jesmu84 on June 23, 2023, 10:04:04 AM
Yea. But those rich folks did things the right/legal way

All part of the plan

panda

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on June 23, 2023, 07:14:47 AM
Yeah, I mean when the world's attention is focused on five rich guys who died in a sub standard submersible to visit the remains of a passenger ship that sunk 100+ years ago, versus the hundreds of migrants who sank to the bottom of the Mediterranean a few days ago trying to make a better life for themselves, I don't really want to hear lectures on trivializing people's deaths.

What aboutism

panda

Quote from: Hards Alumni on June 23, 2023, 06:09:16 AM
Correct.  Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. 

No one mentioned the kids who starved to death this week in Yemen, nor any of the other countless tragedies that occur daily.

But heaven forbid someone make a joke about five dead people who ignored warnings and met their death instantly and painlessly.

I agree - I just wish the poors died first so these rich schmucks wouldn't make the same mistake.

The Sultan

Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

panda

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on June 23, 2023, 11:08:41 AM
Lol...nope.  Try again.

Sorry - instead of saying what about the poor people who died in a similar nautical mishap recently, I should've said please consider. Good point.

The Sultan

Quote from: panda on June 23, 2023, 11:10:53 AM
Sorry - instead of saying what about the poor people who died in a similar nautical mishap recently, I should've said please consider. Good point.

Nope. Not there yet. Going for a third try are are you just a simple person with simple thoughts?
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

Skatastrophy

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on June 23, 2023, 11:19:29 AM
Nope. Not there yet. Going for a third try are are you just a simple person with simple thoughts?


I am.

MU_B

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on June 23, 2023, 11:19:29 AM
Nope. Not there yet. Going for a third try are are you just a simple person with simple thoughts?


Forget Elon and Zuck, you two should rumble.  This is riveting.
Willfully misinformed.

Jockey

Once again, a good example that the government has money to burn. There was a 0% chance that there would be any survivors, but we still spent $10 of millions of dollars.

On the plus side, it was a good opportunity to practice a Search & Rescue in real time.

real chili 83


Jockey


The Sultan

Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.


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