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Title: Titan Submersible
Post by: wadesworld on June 20, 2023, 02:54:40 PM
Pretty crazy that people would trust this.  Just watching this video would make me not get on that thing for even a 50 foot dive.  Hope a good result comes of this, but it's looking pretty unlikely.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29co_Hksk6o
Title: Re: Titan Submersible
Post by: MuggsyB on June 20, 2023, 03:39:57 PM
Pretty crazy that people would trust this.  Just watching this video would make me not get on that thing for even a 50 foot dive.  Hope a good results come of this, but it's looking pretty unlikely.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29co_Hksk6o

Hard Pass There.  That's not to say I don't have sympathy but most of the potential outcomes seem bleak.  And who's to know if a nearby Kraken bangerd it or another creature? 
Title: Re: Titan Submersible
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on June 20, 2023, 03:42:08 PM
Unless they miraculously survive, I hope they had a sudden blowout that made their deaths relatively quick and painless.
Title: Re: Titan Submersible
Post by: MuggsyB on June 20, 2023, 03:43:45 PM
Unless they miraculously survive, I hope they had a sudden blowout that made their deaths relatively quick and painless.

Good point. 
Title: Re: Titan Submersible
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on June 20, 2023, 04:53:02 PM
Not great.

https://twitter.com/phil_lewis_/status/1671263342009401345?s=46&t=ppua9BCUAa7dWM9-SthPmg
Title: Re: Titan Submersible
Post by: Uncle Rico on June 20, 2023, 05:02:16 PM
Not great.

https://twitter.com/phil_lewis_/status/1671263342009401345?s=46&t=ppua9BCUAa7dWM9-SthPmg

Safety is for nerds
Title: Re: Titan Submersible
Post by: MuggsyB on June 20, 2023, 05:29:03 PM
Not great.

https://twitter.com/phil_lewis_/status/1671263342009401345?s=46&t=ppua9BCUAa7dWM9-SthPmg

Oh....boy.  Whoops. 
Title: Re: Titan Submersible
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on June 20, 2023, 05:44:02 PM
Unless they miraculously survive, I hope they had a sudden blowout that made their deaths relatively quick and painless.
It would be a blow in via implosion, but yeah, pretty much instantaneous if that is the case.
Title: Re: Titan Submersible
Post by: Skatastrophy on June 20, 2023, 06:12:28 PM
It would be a blow in via implosion, but yeah, pretty much instantaneous if that is the case.

I'd consider paying $250k to go out that way
Title: Re: Titan Submersible
Post by: #UnleashSean on June 20, 2023, 06:13:46 PM
Without doing the math, I'd assume, given the same time frame, we could rescue someone on the moon with more likelihood then this rescue.
Title: Re: Titan Submersible
Post by: MuggsyB on June 20, 2023, 06:22:08 PM
I'd consider paying $250k to go out that way

But wouldn't that depend on your age?
Title: Re: Titan Submersible
Post by: dgies9156 on June 20, 2023, 06:29:09 PM
Big question with these is since they don’t have windows, what is the point?
Title: Re: Titan Submersible
Post by: rocket surgeon on June 21, 2023, 04:33:20 AM
Big question with these is since they don’t have windows, what is the point?

come on dog, there's a window seat from the head.  so you have to have a bm in order to get the best "seat" in the house.  one way to secure that is to drop a stinger.  talk about depleting the O2 levels.  if i'm going to be down there for any period of time with 4 others, me thinks ya gotta have a say in what everyone consumes up to 48 hours pre launch, eyn'a?  no legumes or closing the 'lanche/real chili
Title: Re: Titan Submersible
Post by: real chili 83 on June 21, 2023, 05:38:00 AM
Killer manatees.
Title: Re: Titan Submersible
Post by: rocket surgeon on June 21, 2023, 07:52:17 AM
Killer manatees.

i'm waiting for the movie
Title: Re: Titan Submersible
Post by: pbiflyer on June 21, 2023, 09:21:45 AM
Not great.

https://twitter.com/phil_lewis_/status/1671263342009401345?s=46&t=ppua9BCUAa7dWM9-SthPmg
Yah capitalism!
Title: Re: Titan Submersible
Post by: MuggsyB on June 21, 2023, 04:37:37 PM
Killer manatees.

They're innocent and don't frequent that area. 
Title: Re: Titan Submersible
Post by: forgetful on June 21, 2023, 08:13:46 PM
While I can't imagine how horrific it must be for the individuals on the Submersible, I also can't help but notice the disparity in how we are responding.

Millions are being spent for this search and rescue. But migrant ships go missing all the time, and most countries just look the other way.

Canada is saying the cost doesn't matter, its about saving lives. But we let people starve around the world, or die because they can't afford insulin or access to medical care.

It is a bit enlightening on what we will spend money on to "save lives" and what we just ignore.

I personally, think we should do everything we can to save any and all lives, and hope that the people on Titan are rescued. But I wish the world cared equally about all lives.
Title: Re: Titan Submersible
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on June 21, 2023, 08:14:57 PM
While I can't imagine how horrific it must be for the individuals on the Submersible, I also can't help but notice the disparity in how we are responding.

Millions are being spent for this search and rescue. But migrant ships go missing all the time, and most countries just look the other way.

Canada is saying the cost doesn't matter, its about saving lives. But we let people starve around the world, or die because they can't afford insulin or access to medical care.

It is a bit enlightening on what we will spend money on to "save lives" and what we just ignore.

I personally, think we should do everything we can to save any and all lives, and hope that the people on Titan are rescued. But I wish the world cared equally about all lives.

Yep.
Title: Re: Titan Submersible
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on June 21, 2023, 09:45:44 PM
While I can't imagine how horrific it must be for the individuals on the Submersible, I also can't help but notice the disparity in how we are responding.

Millions are being spent for this search and rescue. But migrant ships go missing all the time, and most countries just look the other way.

Canada is saying the cost doesn't matter, its about saving lives. But we let people starve around the world, or die because they can't afford insulin or access to medical care.

It is a bit enlightening on what we will spend money on to "save lives" and what we just ignore.

I personally, think we should do everything we can to save any and all lives, and hope that the people on Titan are rescued. But I wish the world cared equally about all lives.

Agree 100%.
Title: Re: Titan Submersible
Post by: Jockey on June 21, 2023, 11:25:23 PM
While I can't imagine how horrific it must be for the individuals on the Submersible, I also can't help but notice the disparity in how we are responding.

Millions are being spent for this search and rescue. But migrant ships go missing all the time, and most countries just look the other way.

Canada is saying the cost doesn't matter, its about saving lives. But we let people starve around the world, or die because they can't afford insulin or access to medical care.

It is a bit enlightening on what we will spend money on to "save lives" and what we just ignore.

I personally, think we should do everything we can to save any and all lives, and hope that the people on Titan are rescued. But I wish the world cared equally about all lives.

If only the migrants were smart enough to be millionaires, we’d hear their stories every day.
Title: Re: Titan Submersible
Post by: MU82 on June 21, 2023, 11:39:49 PM
While I can't imagine how horrific it must be for the individuals on the Submersible, I also can't help but notice the disparity in how we are responding.

Millions are being spent for this search and rescue. But migrant ships go missing all the time, and most countries just look the other way.

Canada is saying the cost doesn't matter, its about saving lives. But we let people starve around the world, or die because they can't afford insulin or access to medical care.

It is a bit enlightening on what we will spend money on to "save lives" and what we just ignore.

I personally, think we should do everything we can to save any and all lives, and hope that the people on Titan are rescued. But I wish the world cared equally about all lives.

Best comment I've seen anywhere about this situation. Thanks for posting.
Title: Re: Titan Submersible
Post by: Hards Alumni on June 22, 2023, 06:37:04 AM
While I can't imagine how horrific it must be for the individuals on the Submersible, I also can't help but notice the disparity in how we are responding.

Millions are being spent for this search and rescue. But migrant ships go missing all the time, and most countries just look the other way.

Canada is saying the cost doesn't matter, its about saving lives. But we let people starve around the world, or die because they can't afford insulin or access to medical care.

It is a bit enlightening on what we will spend money on to "save lives" and what we just ignore.

I personally, think we should do everything we can to save any and all lives, and hope that the people on Titan are rescued. But I wish the world cared equally about all lives.

I also listen to NPR.  ;D

But yes, it was a great point and puts on display for the world to see how we value life, and who matters.
Title: Re: Titan Submersible
Post by: Scoop Snoop on June 22, 2023, 08:22:27 AM
While I can't imagine how horrific it must be for the individuals on the Submersible, I also can't help but notice the disparity in how we are responding.

Millions are being spent for this search and rescue. But migrant ships go missing all the time, and most countries just look the other way.

Canada is saying the cost doesn't matter, its about saving lives. But we let people starve around the world, or die because they can't afford insulin or access to medical care.

It is a bit enlightening on what we will spend money on to "save lives" and what we just ignore.

I personally, think we should do everything we can to save any and all lives, and hope that the people on Titan are rescued. But I wish the world cared equally about all lives.

There are rarely posts on the Superbar that we all agree on. This is one of the best I have ever seen. Thank you for posting this.
Title: Re: Titan Submersible
Post by: Spotcheck Billy on June 22, 2023, 11:04:06 AM
Submersible Pilot’s Spouse Is Descended From a Famous Titanic Couple (https://news.yahoo.com/submersible-pilot-spouse-descended-famous-113533272.html)
Title: Re: Titan Submersible
Post by: wadesworld on June 22, 2023, 11:29:29 AM
Sounds like they found a debris field near the Titanic wreckage.
Title: Re: Titan Submersible
Post by: Uncle Rico on June 22, 2023, 05:12:58 PM
https://twitter.com/theonion/status/1672001577857449986?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
Title: Re: Titan Submersible
Post by: panda on June 22, 2023, 05:21:18 PM
https://twitter.com/theonion/status/1672001577857449986?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q

What a pathetic attempt at humor
Title: Re: Titan Submersible
Post by: tower912 on June 22, 2023, 05:22:06 PM
Never too soon.
Title: Re: Titan Submersible
Post by: Uncle Rico on June 22, 2023, 05:33:28 PM
Never too soon.

If I die after signing a contract saying I may die, especially attempting something like visiting a sunken ship 3,800 meters in a device without any safety inspection, feel free to mock me
Title: Re: Titan Submersible
Post by: tower912 on June 22, 2023, 05:46:16 PM
Don't  worry.   I know you would expect my A game.
Title: Re: Titan Submersible
Post by: Hards Alumni on June 22, 2023, 05:48:23 PM
What a pathetic attempt at humor

You're the arbiter!
Title: Re: Titan Submersible
Post by: MuggsyB on June 22, 2023, 06:05:16 PM
What a pathetic attempt at humor

Terrible.
Title: Re: Titan Submersible
Post by: Uncle Rico on June 22, 2023, 06:49:46 PM
Terrible.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CtwoFHtAMCQ/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
Title: Re: Titan Submersible
Post by: Lennys Tap on June 22, 2023, 08:07:10 PM
If I die after signing a contract saying I may die, especially attempting something like visiting a sunken ship 3,800 meters in a device without any safety inspection, feel free to mock me

Thanks for your permission.
Title: Re: Titan Submersible
Post by: WellsstreetWanderer on June 22, 2023, 08:13:13 PM
Getting into a container I cannot get out of until someone undoes the bolts is a hard pass. That said I share the sentiments of all that any life loss is tragic
Title: Re: Titan Submersible
Post by: panda on June 22, 2023, 08:44:53 PM
The risk isn’t the issue - It’s more so the trivializing loss of life because the passengers are well to do.
Title: Re: Titan Submersible
Post by: tower912 on June 22, 2023, 08:47:35 PM
Thoughts and prayers?
Title: Re: Titan Submersible
Post by: Scoop Snoop on June 22, 2023, 09:37:20 PM
The risk isn’t the issue - It’s more so the trivializing loss of life because the passengers are well to do.

Nailed it.
Title: Re: Titan Submersible
Post by: pbiflyer on June 22, 2023, 10:47:58 PM
Nailed it.

Or trivializing hundreds of deaths because they are poor?
Title: Re: Titan Submersible
Post by: cheebs09 on June 22, 2023, 10:52:35 PM
The risk isn’t the issue - It’s more so the trivializing loss of life because the passengers are well to do.

I don’t know that it’s people trivializing the deaths due to their wealth. I think it has more to do that there were obvious red flags that showed this was likely to happen.
Title: Re: Titan Submersible
Post by: Hards Alumni on June 23, 2023, 06:09:16 AM
I don’t know that it’s people trivializing the deaths due to their wealth. I think it has more to do that there were obvious red flags that showed this was likely to happen.

Correct.  Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. 

No one mentioned the kids who starved to death this week in Yemen, nor any of the other countless tragedies that occur daily.

But heaven forbid someone make a joke about five dead people who ignored warnings and met their death instantly and painlessly.
Title: Re: Titan Submersible
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on June 23, 2023, 07:14:47 AM
Yeah, I mean when the world's attention is focused on five rich guys who died in a sub standard submersible to visit the remains of a passenger ship that sunk 100+ years ago, versus the hundreds of migrants who sank to the bottom of the Mediterranean a few days ago trying to make a better life for themselves, I don't really want to hear lectures on trivializing people's deaths.
Title: Re: Titan Submersible
Post by: jesmu84 on June 23, 2023, 10:04:04 AM
Yeah, I mean when the world's attention is focused on five rich guys who died in a sub standard submersible to visit the remains of a passenger ship that sunk 100+ years ago, versus the hundreds of migrants who sank to the bottom of the Mediterranean a few days ago trying to make a better life for themselves, I don't really want to hear lectures on trivializing people's deaths.

Yea. But those rich folks did things the right/legal way
Title: Re: Titan Submersible
Post by: Hards Alumni on June 23, 2023, 10:28:21 AM
Yea. But those rich folks did things the right/legal way

All part of the plan
Title: Re: Titan Submersible
Post by: panda on June 23, 2023, 11:05:10 AM
Yeah, I mean when the world's attention is focused on five rich guys who died in a sub standard submersible to visit the remains of a passenger ship that sunk 100+ years ago, versus the hundreds of migrants who sank to the bottom of the Mediterranean a few days ago trying to make a better life for themselves, I don't really want to hear lectures on trivializing people's deaths.

What aboutism
Title: Re: Titan Submersible
Post by: panda on June 23, 2023, 11:07:03 AM
Correct.  Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. 

No one mentioned the kids who starved to death this week in Yemen, nor any of the other countless tragedies that occur daily.

But heaven forbid someone make a joke about five dead people who ignored warnings and met their death instantly and painlessly.

I agree - I just wish the poors died first so these rich schmucks wouldn’t make the same mistake.
Title: Re: Titan Submersible
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on June 23, 2023, 11:08:41 AM
What aboutism

Lol...nope.  Try again.
Title: Re: Titan Submersible
Post by: panda on June 23, 2023, 11:10:53 AM
Lol...nope.  Try again.

Sorry - instead of saying what about the poor people who died in a similar nautical mishap recently, I should’ve said please consider. Good point.
Title: Re: Titan Submersible
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on June 23, 2023, 11:19:29 AM
Sorry - instead of saying what about the poor people who died in a similar nautical mishap recently, I should’ve said please consider. Good point.

Nope. Not there yet. Going for a third try are are you just a simple person with simple thoughts?
Title: Re: Titan Submersible
Post by: Skatastrophy on June 23, 2023, 01:35:26 PM
Nope. Not there yet. Going for a third try are are you just a simple person with simple thoughts?


I am.
Title: Re: Titan Submersible
Post by: MU_B on June 23, 2023, 01:57:54 PM
Nope. Not there yet. Going for a third try are are you just a simple person with simple thoughts?


Forget Elon and Zuck, you two should rumble.  This is riveting.
Title: Re: Titan Submersible
Post by: Jockey on June 23, 2023, 05:12:18 PM
Once again, a good example that the government has money to burn. There was a 0% chance that there would be any survivors, but we still spent $10 of millions of dollars.

On the plus side, it was a good opportunity to practice a Search & Rescue in real time.
Title: Re: Titan Submersible
Post by: real chili 83 on June 24, 2023, 09:13:38 AM
IBTL
Title: Re: Titan Submersible
Post by: Jockey on June 24, 2023, 05:44:00 PM
IBTL

What did you put IBTL?