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DoctorV

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Re: 2023-2024 Expectations
« Reply #375 on: July 23, 2023, 12:12:07 AM »
Zaides a dude.

Still, not the biggest dude in his class I don’t think.

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Re: 2023-2024 Expectations
« Reply #378 on: July 24, 2023, 05:17:40 PM »
Stud of the softball game - jop

Hot-N-Ready!  This could be Jop’s new nickname.

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Re: 2023-2024 Expectations
« Reply #379 on: July 24, 2023, 06:19:53 PM »
Hot-N-Ready!  This could be Jop’s new nickname.

I’m ok calling a guy a microwave, but I’m not calling a dude Hot N Ready
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Re: 2023-2024 Expectations
« Reply #380 on: August 07, 2023, 09:31:45 AM »
Sam Vecenie's 2024 Mock has Oso going in the 1st round at 28.

No other Marquette players mentioned in rounds 1 or 2.
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Re: 2023-2024 Expectations
« Reply #381 on: September 26, 2023, 09:09:28 AM »
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Re: 2023-2024 Expectations
« Reply #382 on: September 26, 2023, 09:42:27 AM »
https://twitter.com/marquettembb/status/1706661386456039555?s=46&t=OJ8v5OSYAchdmCLDsa-Kgw

This gets me fired up.  Can't wait for November.

Loved it, wades, thanks for posting.

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Re: 2023-2024 Expectations
« Reply #383 on: September 26, 2023, 09:50:56 AM »
While I had some reservations about the upside of this time a couple of months ago, my expectations are on the rise. The more I hear about Ross, the more excited I get.

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Re: 2023-2024 Expectations
« Reply #384 on: September 26, 2023, 10:11:13 AM »
One of the best parts of this entire offseason is that we haven’t heard a single whisper about tempering expectations of any kind, not from a coach or a player, and that’s awesome.

It’s easy to fall into the trap of “well this is a brand new season and nothing is given, everyone else is improved and we will get everyone’s best shot so it won’t be easy!”
The above could be a true statement, but it’s not the narrative coming from the team and I love to see that.

Speaks volumes of Shaka and the culture he’s building.

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Re: 2023-2024 Expectations
« Reply #385 on: September 26, 2023, 10:28:01 AM »
Amadon't!

Love it!  Look forward to lots of that in the years to come. 

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Re: 2023-2024 Expectations
« Reply #386 on: September 26, 2023, 11:32:17 AM »
Loved it, wades, thanks for posting.

Three Oso-related moments stood out: Great pass to cutting Jop for drive over Gold ... Aggressive move to dunk in Amadou's face ... Amadou blocking Oso's short jumper - Amadon't!

That was Caedin Hamilton's jumper Al, blocked, not Oso's.
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Re: 2023-2024 Expectations
« Reply #387 on: September 26, 2023, 11:35:12 AM »
That was Caedin Hamilton's jumper Al, blocked, not Oso's.

Thanks for the correction. I watched it quickly and it immediately followed Oso dunking on Al - I thought they showed it because it was retribution!
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Re: 2023-2024 Expectations
« Reply #388 on: September 26, 2023, 12:17:29 PM »
The way this team is preparing and practicing, it looks like they’re aware they’ve somehow fallen to 10th in the ESPN early rankings.

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Re: 2023-2024 Expectations
« Reply #389 on: September 28, 2023, 12:41:07 PM »
Zaides a dude.

Still, not the biggest dude in his class I don’t think.

He's also A LOT taller than I expected. Dude looks good so far in practice vids. Feeling Bullish as heck on him and Ross.
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Re: 2023-2024 Expectations
« Reply #390 on: September 28, 2023, 02:01:42 PM »
He's also A LOT taller than I expected. Dude looks good so far in practice vids. Feeling Bullish as heck on him and Ross.

Agree fully

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Re: 2023-2024 Expectations
« Reply #391 on: September 28, 2023, 09:12:44 PM »
He's also A LOT taller than I expected. Dude looks good so far in practice vids. Feeling Bullish as heck on him and Ross.

Yea coming in I think I assumed he would be a 2/3, but the more I see of him the more he looks like a 3/4. Has he gotten taller?

Seems like a beast, and it seems like he’s a good shooter. Can’t wait to see him in live game action.
Hope he’s got a good feel of the game, especially defensively.

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Re: 2023-2024 Expectations
« Reply #392 on: October 02, 2023, 10:59:20 AM »
Agree fully

Whoever the 5th starter is will become the first player Shaka signed from high school after arriving at MU to start a game at Marquette.   

Prior to this season, every starter in every game has been a transfer or Wojo signee.
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Re: 2023-2024 Expectations
« Reply #393 on: October 02, 2023, 07:21:05 PM »
Anyone care to take a guess on the minutes per game for the four freshmen?

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Re: 2023-2024 Expectations
« Reply #394 on: October 02, 2023, 07:29:42 PM »
Assuming no injuries?   
Can Tre take Sean's minutes?
Will Shaka want to go with 4 bigger guards?  Lowery, Ross, Kolek, Jones/Stevie?

If they come in and force Shaka to play them, this will be a ridiculous team.

My gut says Amadou plays minutes like Ben last year.   

Norman and Lowery have to take minutes from TKo, Kam, Stevie, Ross, and Sean.    Tell me how.
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Re: 2023-2024 Expectations
« Reply #395 on: October 02, 2023, 09:47:13 PM »
Assuming no injuries?   
Can Tre take Sean's minutes?
—Sure, maybe a few. He can also take a few from Tyler, Kam, or Stevie.

Will Shaka want to go with 4 bigger guards?  Lowery, Ross, Kolek, Jones/Stevie?
—I think we will see a whole bunch of 3 “guard” sets. The way MU plays it’s hard to qualify Ross and Lowery as pure guards imo. I can see sets with Chase or Zaide at the 4 along with 3 other guards, but that depends on how good Jop is this season and how Ben progresses.

If they come in and force Shaka to play them, this will be a ridiculous team.

My gut says Amadou plays minutes like Ben last year.   
—My gut says Ben plays minutes like Ben, or even Zaide plays minutes like Ben, moreso than Amadou.
I’d imagine that Al gets ~5 minutes or less at the 5 because of Oso, but every minute will be valuable because they might need 15ish or more the following season.
I also see Ben playing a lot of backup “5” this year if Al doesn’t develop quickly. I can see Ben getting more backup 5 minutes than Amadou.

Norman and Lowery have to take minutes from TKo, Kam, Stevie, Ross, and Sean.    Tell me how.
— With elite defense, solid rebounding, and limiting careless mistakes. Won’t be easy, but they will both get minutes.
Also, Lowery can get them at the 4 I think, much like chase can, in 3 guard sets and in a scenario where Shaka values their defense more than Jops or Bens.
Tre has a tougher task with Kolek, Kam, Stevie and Sean but there are 3 it’s a great problem to have

I see it more as 2 groups
A) the “guard” or 1-3 position group
TyKo, Kam, Stevie, Sean, Tre
B) the “bigs” group or 4/5
Oso, Joplin, Ben, Amadou

Chase and Zaide are true switchables that can play in either group at the 2-4 spots.

Of the starters one of Stevie or Joplin will play the least. From the bench Chase will likely play the most because he can spell both of those guys and they will be the 4th and 5th starters in minutes.
Then Ben(4/5 position) Sean and Tre(1/2 position) Zaide(3/4 position) are in a battle for minutes at their positions and Al gets as many as he can be serviceable with at the 5.

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Re: 2023-2024 Expectations
« Reply #396 on: October 03, 2023, 09:10:30 AM »
Start of year 3 of Shaka at MU and from my view this is the deepest and most talented team top to bottom I recall in my 40 years of following MU hoops.

I feel the trio of TKO, Kam and Oso can rival, and maybe collectively is better than the Diener, Wade, Rob Jackson trio.  Go beyond those three and the depth of talent behind our Big 3 currently is substantially better than what our 2003 Final Four team had, and our Sweet 16/Elite 8 teams under Buzz.

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Re: 2023-2024 Expectations
« Reply #397 on: October 03, 2023, 09:58:01 AM »
Start of year 3 of Shaka at MU and from my view this is the deepest and most talented team top to bottom I recall in my 40 years of following MU hoops.

I feel the trio of TKO, Kam and Oso can rival, and maybe collectively is better than the Diener, Wade, Rob Jackson trio.  Go beyond those three and the depth of talent behind our Big 3 currently is substantially better than what our 2003 Final Four team had, and our Sweet 16/Elite 8 teams under Buzz.

Marquette currently 20 to 1 to win the National Championship...I'm going to lay 1k on them.

Not sure about this top trio being better than any trio that included Wade, a transcendental talent who could singlehandedly take over games, but I totally agree about this season's depth being far superior to the 2003 depth. 20-to-1 ... I might have to throw a little down, too!
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Re: 2023-2024 Expectations
« Reply #398 on: October 03, 2023, 10:52:01 AM »
This team has the potential to be exceptional.
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Re: 2023-2024 Expectations
« Reply #399 on: October 03, 2023, 11:37:31 AM »
This team has the potential to be exceptional.

Y'all are making me nervous with this unbridled excitement.
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