Nashville school shooting

[Mucubfan]

Most advanced country in the world…

[Jockey]

Most advanced country in the world…

Alright. Alright. Alright. We're winning in a blowout.

[Jockey]

It is all so incredibly depressing. More kids die from guns than car accidents. I have to buy new car seats multiple times for hundreds of dollars before my kids turn 7.

Why do we have no protections from the leading cause of death?

You're really asking? We ALL know why.

One party glorifies guns and everything about them. The same party fights against any common sense gun legislation to help fix the problem.

[Jay Bee]

Where’s your link?  I have some.

https://www.kff.org/private-insurance/press-release/firearms-are-the-leading-cause-of-death-for-children-in-the-united-states-but-rank-no-higher-than-fifth-in-other-industrialized-nations/

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/12/14/magazine/gun-violence-children-data-statistics.html

Why can’t we be honest with the facts? Smh. Your first link is data for “children” age 1 through ***19***? Why would you go past 17? Because the data changes significantly when you add in young adults. Pathetic.

Per CDC data, in 2020, firearms led car accidents for 17 & younger by only about 5%

The combo of suffocation, poisoning & drownings eclipsed firearms easily. Why are we not talking about these more?

Why don’t some of you blowhards make weekly topics about all the children who are shot in Chicago with great regularity?

Figure out what an assault rifle is, figure out what a child is, figure out what a woman and a man are, and then let’s talk.

[ATL MU Warrior]

Why can’t we be honest with the facts? Smh. Your first link is data for “children” age 1 through ***19***? Why would you go past 17? Because the data changes significantly when you add in young adults. Pathetic.

Per CDC data, in 2020, firearms led car accidents for 17 & younger by only about 5%

The combo of suffocation, poisoning & drownings eclipsed firearms easily. Why are we not talking about these more?

Why don’t some of you blowhards make weekly topics about all the children who are shot in Chicago with great regularity?

Figure out what an assault rifle is, figure out what a child is, figure out what a woman and a man are, and then let’s talk.

Talk about being honest with data.  "If we group all of these totally separate things together into one grouping I just arbitrarily decided to make up, combined they are the largest single cause of death!"  SMH

[Uncle Rico]

Why can’t we be honest with the facts? Smh. Your first link is data for “children” age 1 through ***19***? Why would you go past 17? Because the data changes significantly when you add in young adults. Pathetic.

Per CDC data, in 2020, firearms led car accidents for 17 & younger by only about 5%

The combo of suffocation, poisoning & drownings eclipsed firearms easily. Why are we not talking about these more?

Why don’t some of you blowhards make weekly topics about all the children who are shot in Chicago with great regularity?

Figure out what an assault rifle is, figure out what a child is, figure out what a woman and a man are, and then let’s talk.

Those are incredible deflections.  I’m glad someone finally brought up Chicago.  I’m glad you’re concerned about what’s happening there.  I agree it’s a problem.  We need to work hard to help ease poverty and income disparity.  A focus on education and helping our fellow man seems like a good start.

[Jay Bee]

Those are incredible deflections.  I’m glad someone finally brought up Chicago.  I’m glad you’re concerned about what’s happening there.  I agree it’s a problem.  We need to work hard to help ease poverty and income disparity.  A focus on education and helping our fellow man seems like a good start.

Why? Isn’t it just about the guns?!

[Uncle Rico]

Why? Isn’t it just about the guns?!

The number of guns in this country and the availability of guns in this country are a massive problem.  I’m not dumb.  None of these things will be addressed, but I’m quite confident more guns will be readily available for more mass shootings, guns that have no business being sold.

[MU82]

Those are incredible deflections.  I’m glad someone finally brought up Chicago.  I’m glad you’re concerned about what’s happening there.  I agree it’s a problem.  We need to work hard to help ease poverty and income disparity.  A focus on education and helping our fellow man seems like a good start.

Legislators have no time to deal with that stuff. Too busy dealing with NRA lobbyists, making laws to get LGBTQ people to kill themselves, climbing into women's reproductive systems, and searching for reverse racism.

Meanwhile, schools can't afford to hire the psychologists desperately needed to deal with the "mental health issues" that some always blame for mass shootings. The latest thing sapping their budgets: public record requests from the Orwelian book-banning crowd.

From the Washington Post:

One Virginia school district added half a million dollars to its budget just to process public records requests. In the span of 90 days this school year, an Arkansas district received 100 such requests that cost nearly $20,000 and 400 hours of staff labor to fill.

And in Minnesota’s Owatonna Public Schools, the 61-year-old director of human resources is still plowing her way through a request from the citizens’ group United Patriots for Accountability, which in summer 2021 sought all school communications and records that mentioned 19 phrases including “Black Lives Matter,” “institutional racism” and “Whiteness.” That request has already consumed $165,000 of the district’s money and, director of human resources Chris Picha estimates, 2,200 hours of staff time, much of it drawn from her own weekends and holidays. She has generated approximately 170,000 pages of records and guesses it will take another year to complete the request.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/03/27/school-district-foia-records-request/?utm_campaign=wp_the7&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_the7&carta-url=https%3A%2F%2Fs2.washingtonpost.com%2Fcar-ln-tr%2F398d668%2F64241958f19a510b0429e597%2F5f8d147cae7e8a56e5b732a4%2F36%2F59%2F64241958f19a510b0429e597&wp_cu=b1005792a416de1fbe1f17e5cf366b7d%7CB1FF71CA724A36FAE0530100007F88D6

Time and money well spent! Can't have the kids reading anything that suggests slavery existed.

What more do they need but manuals on how to buy and care for their firearms?

[Jay Bee]

^^^ no wonder there are so many shootings in Owatanna, Mn!

[tower912]

Why? Isn’t it just about the guns?!

To borrow from an award winning movie, it is everything everywhere all at once.   
It is poverty.
It is lack of education and opportunities.
It is mental health. 
It is lack of development of more appropriate coping mechanisms, which ties into all of the above.
It is the guns.    It is the gun cult that has developed.   
The common thread is that someone is angry and decides that a gun inflicting pain and death on others is the solution to their pain. 

Fix it all, JB.   

[Mucubfan]

Why can’t we be honest with the facts? Smh. Your first link is data for “children” age 1 through ***19***? Why would you go past 17? Because the data changes significantly when you add in young adults. Pathetic.

Per CDC data, in 2020, firearms led car accidents for 17 & younger by only about 5%

The combo of suffocation, poisoning & drownings eclipsed firearms easily. Why are we not talking about these more?

Why don’t some of you blowhards make weekly topics about all the children who are shot in Chicago with great regularity?

Figure out what an assault rifle is, figure out what a child is, figure out what a woman and a man are, and then let’s talk.

Nothing like pointing out that some of the statistics are young black people dying so that you can discount the value of young deaths.

Fact 1- a lot of young people die from guns. More than car accidents even.

Opinion 1- that is terrible and it needs to be addressed immediately!

Fact 2- the US has a zillion guns

Opinion 2- that’s way too many guns, we should have less guns!

Counterpoint 1- well, that data includes black people deaths, you are lying with the data as they don’t count!

Also, TRANS people! And stop asking fir women to control their body!
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Geez, that is some solid rationale right there

[TSmith34, Inc.]

[lawdog77]

Why can’t we be honest with the facts? Smh. Your first link is data for “children” age 1 through ***19***? Why would you go past 17? Because the data changes significantly when you add in young adults. Pathetic.

Per CDC data, in 2020, firearms led car accidents for 17 & younger by only about 5%

The combo of suffocation, poisoning & drownings eclipsed firearms easily. Why are we not talking about these more?

Why don’t some of you blowhards make weekly topics about all the children who are shot in Chicago with great regularity?

Figure out what an assault rifle is, figure out what a child is, figure out what a woman and a man are, and then let’s talk.

Hooray?

[Vander Blue Man Group]

Actually....


Josephine Harvey
Mon, March 27, 2023 at 9:39 PM CDT·4 min read
A Fox News segment went viral on Monday after a guest on the conservative network pointed out a pattern in school shootings.

Her concern wasn’t the common denominator in all shootings ― access to guns ― but rather unlocked doors.

“That seems to be a common pattern in many of these shootings, a side door. If we can lock the side doors and make sure that the schools are secure, hopefully we can avoid these tragedies going forward,” former FBI agent Nicole Parker said as she discussed a shooting Monday at The Covenant School in Nashville that left three children and three adults dead.

There it is. 

[MU82]

^^^ no wonder there are so many shootings in Owatanna, Mn!

You think Owatonna is invincible? It can happen in any town of any size anywhere in the country.

I sure hope Owatonna never has to face it. A week ago, nobody involved in that little school in Nashville expected to have to face it, either. Nobody in Sandy Hook, Parkland, Uvalde or Columbine thought they'd have to face it. Nobody who went to the Highland Park parade thought it would happen. None of the people at that Vegas show thought it would happen.

They were all mental-health issues, anyway. Nothing anybody coulda done about any of 'em.

But let's have a cash-strapped school district spend $165K (and counting) on bogus records requests rather than 2 psychologists for the district. And let's have a shorthanded school district designate 2,200 hours (and counting) sifting through the BS.

Then, if there is a shooting in the district, you can shrug and say nothing could have been done because it's a mental-health issue, not a gun issue.

[shoothoops]

Why can’t we be honest with the facts? Smh. Your first link is data for “children” age 1 through ***19***? Why would you go past 17? Because the data changes significantly when you add in young adults. Pathetic.

Per CDC data, in 2020, firearms led car accidents for 17 & younger by only about 5%

The combo of suffocation, poisoning & drownings eclipsed firearms easily. Why are we not talking about these more?

Why don’t some of you blowhards make weekly topics about all the children who are shot in Chicago with great regularity?

Figure out what an assault rifle is, figure out what a child is, figure out what a woman and a man are, and then let’s talk.

No one is avoiding Chicago. It’s not an either/or. You are giving yourself away here. It’s okay to discuss both. The common denominator is guns.

https://www.thetrace.org/2022/04/chicago-gun-stores-atf-trace-report-inspection/

https://everytownlaw.org/press/city-of-chicago-sues-indiana-gun-store-tied-to-more-than-850-crime-guns-recovered-in-chicago/

No one is saying that car accidents are not important.

Did you know that car deaths for children under 13 decreased 85% since 1975?

We have installed these things called laws and safety improvements.

https://seriousaccidents.com/blog/children-traffic-fatalities-by-year/

[Vander Blue Man Group]

Why can’t we be honest with the facts? Smh. Your first link is data for “children” age 1 through ***19***? Why would you go past 17? Because the data changes significantly when you add in young adults. Pathetic.

Per CDC data, in 2020, firearms led car accidents for 17 & younger by only about 5%

The combo of suffocation, poisoning & drownings eclipsed firearms easily. Why are we not talking about these more?

Why don’t some of you blowhards make weekly topics about all the children who are shot in Chicago with great regularity?

Figure out what an assault rifle is, figure out what a child is, figure out what a woman and a man are, and then let’s talk.

The only pathetic things here are you and your response. 

Imagine being the kind of person who's upset that he has to try to prove the firearms aren't the leading cause of death in children.  The deflections and "logic" you use in your response would be laughable if they weren't so sad, embarrassing and stupid. 

I know what a man is and you don't qualify. 

[Jay Bee]

Another thing we need to do is use laws on the books to punish perps. A lot of shooters should not be out on the streets.

Per the CDC, in 2020, for children 14 and under (~prior to high school), deaths include:
Suffocation
Motor Vehicle (69% of Suffocation)
Firearm (45% of Suffocation)
Drowning (42% of Suffocation)

[Vander Blue Man Group]

Another thing we need to do is use laws on the books to punish perps. A lot of shooters should not be out on the streets.

Per the CDC, in 2020, for children 14 and under (~prior to high school), deaths include:
Suffocation
Motor Vehicle (69% of Suffocation)
Firearm (45% of Suffocation)
Drowning (42% of Suffocation)

We should probably ban cars, baths, rivers, lakes, and oceans, huh? 

[tower912]

Agreed, as far as repeat offenders. 

Now, fund more prisons and let them build one in your town.

And, as Jesus tells you, visit the prisoners.

[shoothoops]

How the U.S. is doing vs its peers:

https://www.kff.org/global-health-policy/issue-brief/child-and-teen-firearm-mortality-in-the-u-s-and-peer-countries/

[Jay Bee]

Not only do outlets like to include young adults, but usually conveniently exclude children under 1. Why? The data doesn’t “help” them.

Per the CDC in 2020, suffocation caused 1,087 deaths of those under 1. Vehicle ma…72… poisoning… 67.

Firearms 11

And of course, as a % of a the population, takes down the figures

Wish this was all as simple as “banning automatic weapons”, but it’s not

[lawdog77]

Not only do outlets like to include young adults, but usually conveniently exclude children under 1. Why? The data doesn’t “help” them.

Per the CDC in 2020, suffocation caused 1,087 deaths of those under 1. Vehicle ma…72… poisoning… 67.

Firearms 11

And of course, as a % of a the population, takes down the figures

Wish this was all as simple as “banning automatic weapons”, but it’s not

Not many are saying that's the magic pill. It's a start.

Name one good reason why an individual needs an automatic weapon.

[Jay Bee]

Not many are saying that's the magic pill. It's a start.

Name one good reason why an individual needs an automatic weapon.

Who is using automatic weapons when killing kids?