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MuggsyB

Could you give us a little analysis of how the overall night played out for MU as far as future tourney seeding?  Ty. 

PGsHeroes32

Take care of business the last 3 games and we will get a 3 seed.

We got the road win needed.

The other teams around us are gonna play tougher schedules and lose more frequently as well.

our X and SHU wins are clinging to Q1 though. But maybe Nova will creep up there...
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

cheebs09

Iowa State got crushed by Texas tonight. I can't see them over us at this point.

DoctorV

Playing for a 2 now.

3 seed is a guarantee if Marquette wins the next 3 as projected, although nothing is guaranteed.
Don't forget, the legs and arms tighten up with hardware on the line, no matta the opponent.

Throw the computers in the trash when the brass is up for grabs.
You can quote me on that.

Win a BE title, get a 3 at worst as I've said all along.

Two in play if we win all 3 and get help. Then get to Saturday night in the Garden.
If not, rest up for Columbus 14 seed and plan for possible 6 seed

MuggsyB

Quote from: DoctorV on February 21, 2023, 10:30:52 PM
Playing for a 2 now.

3 seed is a guarantee if Marquette wins the next 3 as projected, although nothing is guaranteed.
Don't forget, the legs and arms tighten up with hardware on the line, no matta the opponent.

Throw the computers in the trash when the brass is up for grabs.
You can quote me on that.

Win a BE title, get a 3 at worst as I've said all along.

Two in play if we win all 3 and get help. Then get to Saturday night in the Garden.
If not, rest up for Columbus 14 seed and plan for possible 6 seed

I'm thinking it's absolutely possible Dr. V to snag a 2 seed. 

MuggsyB

Is bracket matrix relatively accurate?

BM1090

It'd take a lot to get a 2. But Baylor, Tennessee, Indiana, and Iowa State all losing tonight was a good start.

MuggsyB

Quote from: BM1090 on February 21, 2023, 10:35:20 PM
It'd take a lot to get a 2. But Baylor, Tennessee, Indiana, and Iowa State all losing tonight was a good start.

NM.  True dat.

We R Final Four

Quote from: MuggsyB on February 21, 2023, 10:24:37 PM
Could you give us a little analysis of how the overall night played out for MU as far as future tourney seeding?  Ty.
Brew isnt as reactionary as you Muggs.

brewcity77

3-seed now, no question. We probably need help to get to a 2. Barring an unexpected loss, our seed and first weekend location is set.

MuggsyB


brewcity77

Quote from: We R Final Four on February 21, 2023, 10:36:23 PM
Brew isnt as reactionary as you Muggs.

I'm not, but I already had us ahead of Indiana because I don't think their Northwestern loss was factored into the Reveal. The Q1A road win was the only thing missing. Adding that, along with a damaging metric loss for ISU pushes us up. But I do think we're about capped. Hard to see us getting to a 2.

PGsHeroes32

2 we need a perfect storm.

Basically some more help.

And we have to run the table through MSG with the proper 2 and 3rd games being Q1 opponents as well.
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

MuggsyB

Quote from: brewcity77 on February 21, 2023, 10:40:09 PM
I'm not, but I already had us ahead of Indiana because I don't think their Northwestern loss was factored into the Reveal. The Q1A road win was the only thing missing. Adding that, along with a damaging metric loss for ISU pushes us up. But I do think we're about capped. Hard to see us getting to a 2.

Brew,

Why are Zona and UCLA lock 2's?  Ty.

wisblue

Quote from: MuggsyB on February 21, 2023, 10:34:43 PM
Is bracket matrix relatively accurate?

Until the end it can be a bit of a lagging indicator because they include a lot of brackets that are a few days old and don't reflect the most recent results.

But it's hard to see MU not being a 3 in brackets now because they got the 1A road win that had eluded them and also kept Creighton behind them. Xavier, Iowa State, and Indiana should slip back too.

They should be able to hold a 3 if they avoid a bad loss in the last 3, and maybe even if they lose one. But there's still a lot that would have to happen for them to get up to a 2.

brewcity77

Quote from: MuggsyB on February 21, 2023, 10:44:01 PM
Brew,

Why are Zona and UCLA lock 2's?  Ty.

I don't think either is a lock, but Arizona's top tier wins are stellar. UCLA I think is vulnerable. Though Virginia and K-State have the edge on us to move up there. Honestly, though, not much difference between a 2 and 3 this year.

MuggsyB

Quote from: brewcity77 on February 21, 2023, 10:46:18 PM
I don't think either is a lock, but Arizona's top tier wins are stellar. UCLA I think is vulnerable. Though Virginia and K-State have the edge on us to move up there. Honestly, though, not much difference between a 2 and 3 this year.

Alright,

Thanks Brew.  I  guess that's right.  But a 3 is much better than a 4 imo. 

goldeneagle91114

Quote from: brewcity77 on February 21, 2023, 10:37:33 PM
3-seed now, no question. We probably need help to get to a 2. Barring an unexpected loss, our seed and first weekend location is set.

What's our location?

We R Final Four

Quote from: brewcity77 on February 21, 2023, 10:40:09 PM
I'm not, but I already had us ahead of Indiana because I don't think their Northwestern loss was factored into the Reveal. The Q1A road win was the only thing missing. Adding that, along with a damaging metric loss for ISU pushes us up. But I do think we're about capped. Hard to see us getting to a 2.
3 sounds great....I don't understand how a 2 seed is in play at all.

IrwinFletcher

Quote from: We R Final Four on February 21, 2023, 10:50:39 PM
3 sounds great....I don't understand how a 2 seed is in play at all.

Because our next three games are against crappy teams, meaning we have no more Q1 opportunities. Our resume is basically set, minus the potential for a bad loss to end the year. 

Juan Anderson's Mixtape

Quote from: goldeneagle91114 on February 21, 2023, 10:48:29 PM
What's our location?

Probably Columbus.  Too many Big 12 teams vying for Des Moines.

We R Final Four

Quote from: IrwinFletcher on February 21, 2023, 10:54:37 PM
Because our next three games are against crappy teams, meaning we have no more Q1 opportunities. Our resume is basically set, minus the potential for a bad loss to end the year.
Yes....i agree completely. Again, I dont see how we could become a 2 seed. Your response didnt address that at all.

BLWarrior91

Quote from: We R Final Four on February 21, 2023, 10:50:39 PM
3 sounds great....I don't understand how a 2 seed is in play at all.

As others stated, we need a perfect storm to get a 2.  If other teams above is lose games and we run the table and pick up some Q1 wins at MSG, we could get to the two line.

DoctorV

Quote from: BM1090 on February 21, 2023, 10:35:20 PM
It'd take a lot to get a 2. But Baylor, Tennessee, Indiana, and Iowa State all losing tonight was a good start.

Baylor, Texas, Arizona, UCLA the 2s at the reveal.

Texas the top 2 seed can't pass.
UCLA, Arizona, Baylor all in play IMO.

I know conferences no matta, or so they say, but I like the BE Champ getting a 2 ahead of 2 Pac-12 teams, or Baylor fading enough where MU overcomes them.


As for the 3 seed challengers-
Honestly I thought KSt would fade but that final 2 seed might be up for grabs between MU and them.
They beat 2 ranked opponents and have a soft end, much like MU.

Iowa State has faded, Tennessee lost at Buzz and is fading, Virginia has looked awful versus crap teams.
Indiana lost, Gonzaga doesn't have the juice.

So, if my math is right, if Marquette holds on to a BE ship and wins the last 3 the 2 seeds should be
Texas, UCLA (who I think beats Az at home in last game of season)

Az, Baylor, Virginia, Kansas St, Marquette, Gonzaga battling for the last 2 two seeds.

In that case, I honestly think Marquette gets one of the two spots with a 25-6,17-3 and a trip to Saturday at the Garden.

Can't really see a scenario where Marquette doesn't get that 2 seed with that type of record and run, no matter what happens elsewhere.

Only downside is how the committee currently views the BE, but I think it would be a robbery if they were a 3 in that case tbh

Dr. Blackheart

Where is Brew?  I hope drinking and not crunching. Outstanding work throughout the season (and before). 

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