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Newsdreams

Quote from: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on February 18, 2023, 12:10:25 PM
I have no idea what criteria the committee is using.  Big 12 and B1G seemed to get a boost for being strong conferences, but Arizona, UCLA, and Virginia received no penalty for being in worse conferences than the Big East.

Seems very inconsistent.
Need to look at resume overall. Many components. Our noncon SOS probably "hurts" us
Goal is National Championship
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Can't believe we're living in the land of F 452/1984/Animal Farm/Brave New World/Handmaid's Tale. When travel to Mars begins, expect Starship Troopers

CountryRoads

Quote from: TallTitan34 on February 18, 2023, 12:11:59 PM
Was Seth Davis seriously asking about the entire B12 making it?

He also had the badgers ranked #20 like a week ago.

cheebs09

Quote from: TallTitan34 on February 18, 2023, 12:11:59 PM
Was Seth Davis seriously asking about the entire B12 making it?

I don't view Seth Davis as the brightest basketball analyst.

Newsdreams

Quote from: TallTitan34 on February 18, 2023, 12:11:59 PM
Was Seth Davis seriously asking about the entire B12 making it?
If one of the 2 bottom teams wins the tournament 9 in at least get in.
Goal is National Championship
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PGsHeroes32

Quote from: tower912 on February 18, 2023, 11:54:47 AM
I have been saying for a month that IU was dangerous.   Not surprised at all by this.

Huh?

Dangerous and resume are completely different.

They dont seed off whose dangerous lol
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

MuggsyB


CountryRoads

Quote from: MuggsyB on February 18, 2023, 12:19:43 PM
Sweet Jesus.

I was slightly exaggerating, but there was a time where he was the only AP voter still voting for them.

Newsdreams

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 18, 2023, 12:11:35 PM
Agreed but the 5/12 matchups are a nightmare.  Seems like that's where the committee wants Marquette and Xavier to end up with their current placements.

It doesn't matter what we think, but I feel like Indiana at 18-8 with their resume is just too high.

Seems like Marquette is destined for a 5 unless they win out.
Wut?? It will mostly depend on what MU & Xavier do the rest of the season. If we lose @Creighton could be a 5 seed.
Goal is National Championship
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HowardsWorld

So Arizona and ucla play in conference similar to the wac and get two seeds but Tennessee who has beaten 2 of the one seeds including Kansas on a nuetral court by 20 gets a 3 seed.

To be honest not much makes sense here.

Juan Anderson's Mixtape

Quote from: Newsdreams on February 18, 2023, 12:13:06 PM
Need to look at resume overall. Many components. Our noncon SOS probably "hurts" us

No doubt Notre Dame and Georgia Tech being dog crap hurts us.  As does not having a signature road win.

But there is no way Marquette and Virginia shouldn't be on the same seed line.  Virginia has only one Q1A win and Marquette has three.

Very arbitrary and inconsistent application of the NET, use of quadrants, conference strength, and strength of schedule. conference.

nwestpha

Seems like they do this every year.  They give credit to circular firing squad leagues for being 'tough', which leads to a lot of teams getting over seeded (B1G). 

If Indiana loses two more games (10 losses), are they really going to put them on the 3 or 4 line?

K State lost to Butller ffs.

HowardsWorld

Can someone dive into uclas scheudle and show me how they get a 2? Their best win is Maryland.

GoldenEagles03

Quote from: Newsdreams on February 18, 2023, 12:21:31 PM
Wut?? It will mostly depend on what MU & Xavier do the rest of the season. If we lose @Creighton could be a 5 seed.

UConn, Xavier, and Marquette all have better resumes than Indiana and they have Indiana ahead of all 3.
VIOLENCE!

Newsdreams

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 18, 2023, 12:29:02 PM
UConn, Xavier, and Marquette all have better resumes than Indiana and they have Indiana ahead of all 3.
LOL ok whatever... there are a lot of games left. MU could even be out of 4 seed if they get upset or move to a 3 if UI4 screws up.
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Goose

Lot of basketball to be played. Good news, they control their own destiny. Could not have asked for anything more than that in November.

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GoldenEagles03

Quote from: Newsdreams on February 18, 2023, 12:34:36 PM
LOL ok whatever... there are a lot of games left. MU could even be out of 4 seed if they get upset or move to a 3 if UI4 screws up.

Look at the resumes.

Indiana is 18-8.  5-7 in Q1. 3-1 in Q2.
KenPom- 20
NET- 17

Marquette is 21-6. 5-5 in Q1. 4-0 in Q2.
KenPom- 13
NET- 15

And you could argue Xavier and UConn being ahead of Marquette. Indiana was the biggest overvalue by the committee.  Not deserving of the Top 4 seed.
VIOLENCE!

CountryRoads

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 18, 2023, 12:38:28 PM
Look at the resumes.

Indiana is 18-8.  5-7 in Q1. 3-1 in Q2.
KenPom- 20
NET- 17

Marquette is 21-6. 5-5 in Q1. 4-0 in Q2.
KenPom- 13
NET- 15

And you could argue Xavier and UConn being ahead of Marquette. Indiana was the biggest overvalue by the committee.  Not deserving of the Top 4 seed.

Not to mention committee put them a 2 hour drive away in Louisville. Committee loves putting big ten teams as close to home as possible.

wisblue

Quote from: HowardsWorld on February 18, 2023, 12:25:44 PM
Can someone dive into uclas scheudle and show me how they get a 2? Their best win is Maryland.

UCLA's metrics are very strong and they have 11 Q1 and Q2 wins. Their win against Maryland was a true road game. Their OOC schedule was very good.

I think most people expected UCLA to be higher than 8 based on their resume.

goldeneagle91114

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 18, 2023, 12:38:28 PM
Look at the resumes.

Indiana is 18-8.  5-7 in Q1. 3-1 in Q2.
KenPom- 20
NET- 17

Marquette is 21-6. 5-5 in Q1. 4-0 in Q2.
KenPom- 13
NET- 15

And you could argue Xavier and UConn being ahead of Marquette. Indiana was the biggest overvalue by the committee.  Not deserving of the Top 4 seed.

Is there a Beast representative on the committee this year?

GoldenEagles03

Quote from: CountryRoads on February 18, 2023, 12:41:49 PM
Not to mention committee put them a 2 hour drive away in Louisville. Committee loves putting big ten teams as close to home as possible.

Yup. Too be clear, I'm fine with being a 4, but they should be the Top 4.  Committee leaving 0 room for error while Indiana gets a longer leash with 8 losses and worse metrics.  Not right.
VIOLENCE!

MUDPT

Someone on twitter thinks that they didn't change the seeds after Wednesday. Either way, Indiana's resume is worse than Marquette's.

brewcity77

Quote from: HowardsWorld on February 18, 2023, 12:25:44 PM
Can someone dive into uclas scheudle and show me how they get a 2? Their best win is Maryland.

But it's at Maryland, and road wins over tourney teams are clearly being rewarded. For Marquette, those close but not quite trips to Purdue, Providence, and Xavier are looming large.

CAGASS24

The Cyclones are 4-6 in their past 10 games, while Kansas State has lost five of its past seven games, but it's a sign of the Big 12's strength that both were still inside the top 12.

Reynolds said conference affiliation is not a factor in seeding or inclusion.

....not sure how he made it through that without cracking up ......

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