[Cracked Sidewalks] Top-16 Reveal Preview

[CAGASS24]

I get that the Big 12 is tough - but kstates coming off back to back losses to their bottom feeders

[Newsdreams]

Look at the resumes.

Indiana is 18-8.  5-7 in Q1. 3-1 in Q2.
KenPom- 20
NET- 17

Marquette is 21-6. 5-5 in Q1. 4-0 in Q2.
KenPom- 13
NET- 15

And you could argue Xavier and UConn being ahead of Marquette. Indiana was the biggest overvalue by the committee.  Not deserving of the Top 4 seed.

Look
MU SOS 47
Q-1 5-5 (1 win away)
Q-2 lost 0
Q-3 lost 1
Q-4 lost 0

IU4 SOS 14
Q-1 5-7 (3 wins away)
Q-2 lost 1
Q-3 lost 0
Q-4 lost 0

Resumes are very close but our Q-3 lost game and inferior SOS is probably the difference. If Illi wins today they probably fall and would have to get a good win, I don't know the rest of schedule.

[CAGASS24]

Virginia sneaks by ND

[GoldenEagles03]

Virginia sneaks by ND

Virginia stinks

[jesmu84]

https://www.barstoolsports.com/blog/3456790/the-ncaa-revealed-the-top-16-teams-for-this-years-ncaa-tournament-bracket-lets-argue-about-it

Likes Marquette as final four team in this set up.

Also

https://twitter.com/Brad_Wachtel/status/1627003856696627205?t=pC3Qrcc-jT2n5wVcu8zjpg&s=19

UConn under seeded, IU over seeded

[Newsdreams]

Indiana sneaks by Illinois

[Shooter McGavin]

MU simply needs to win out in the regular season and apparently look good (eye test) while doing it.  As much as MU fans loved the Xavier finish, committee members watching that game may not necessarily be impressed by beating a short handed team at home by one with terrible offense.

Brew, do style points come into play (meaning how good a team looks at the end of the season) in addition to simply a road win at Creighton? 

[Newsdreams]

MU simply needs to win out in the regular season and apparently look good (eye test) while doing it.  As much as MU fans loved the Xavier finish, committee members watching that game may not necessarily be impressed by beating a short handed team at home by one with terrible offense.

Brew, do style points come into play (meaning how good a team looks at the end of the season) in addition to simply a road win at Creighton?

Not teal, we didn't cover.

[brewcity77]

MU simply needs to win out in the regular season and apparently look good (eye test) while doing it.  As much as MU fans loved the Xavier finish, committee members watching that game may not necessarily be impressed by beating a short handed team at home by one with terrible offense.

Brew, do style points come into play (meaning how good a team looks at the end of the season) in addition to simply a road win at Creighton?

Typically no, or at least no more than the rest of the season. Based on today, I think maintaining the metrics and getting that Creighton win is most important. We already have a metric edge on the teams ahead of us, so I'm not sure how much running scores will help.

[MarquetteMike1977]

1 Alabama
2 Houston
3 Purdue
4 Kansas
5 Texas
6 Arizona
7 Baylor
8 UCLA
9 Tennessee
10 Virginia
11 Iowa State
12 Kansas State
13 Indiana
14 Marquette
15 Gonzaga
16 Xavier
Virginia and Indiana snuck by with wins
But Tennessee is losing and Iowa State is playing Kansas State.

[Uncle Rico]

Relax

[Shooter McGavin]

Typically no, or at least no more than the rest of the season. Based on today, I think maintaining the metrics and getting that Creighton win is most important. We already have a metric edge on the teams ahead of us, so I'm not sure how much running scores will help.

Thanks.  Did the reveal do more to confuse your bracket or confirm your suspicions/logic of how they are seeding? 

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Look at the resumes.

Indiana is 18-8.  5-7 in Q1. 3-1 in Q2.
KenPom- 20
NET- 17

Marquette is 21-6. 5-5 in Q1. 4-0 in Q2.
KenPom- 13
NET- 15

And you could argue Xavier and UConn being ahead of Marquette. Indiana was the biggest overvalue by the committee.  Not deserving of the Top 4 seed.

You left off Q3:
Marquette: 5-1
Indiana: 3-0

I agree that Marquette should be seeded above Indiana but you have to show the whole picture. What's holding us back is that Wisconsin loss and lack of quality wins away from home. Our best non-home win is at #68 Seton Hall. Our second and third best are #83 Villanova (without Moore) and #98 St. John's. Indiana's top three on the other hand are #26 Xavier, #28 Illinois, and #71 Michigan. They also have the we lost when we had significant injuries card that they can play.

[Mu8891]

I think MU should be a three ...

And, frankly I don't think they can beat
Creighton.  Please God ... not the
5/12 game !! Ugh

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I don't think losing @Creighton would knock us down a seed line. I do think winning @Creighton could knock us up a seed line.

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Indiana and Kansas State ahead of Marquette is a unnatural carnal knowledgeing joke.

Indiana isn't dangerous, they lost to a mediocre Northwestern team. And it's no secret I love northwestern

[Ellenson Guerrero]

As a wise man once said, "F**k 'em."

[marqfan22]

Is there another bracket reveal next week? Or is it just a one time thing?

[cheebs09]

Is there another bracket reveal next week? Or is it just a one time thing?

This is the only one until Selection Sunday. If I remember right, it's not uncommon to see some kind of headscratching moves in the Top 16 of the final bracket compared to this reveal.

[brewcity77]

Thanks.  Did the reveal do more to confuse your bracket or confirm your suspicions/logic of how they are seeding?

Initially, massive confusion. Been talking it through with a number of other bracket nerds and I think I've figured it out. They handled the top line differently than the rest of the bracket. Going to dig in deeper the next few days and readjust based on what we learned.

[GoldenEagles03]

You left off Q3:
Marquette: 5-1
Indiana: 3-0

I agree that Marquette should be seeded above Indiana but you have to show the whole picture. What's holding us back is that Wisconsin loss and lack of quality wins away from home. Our best non-home win is at #68 Seton Hall. Our second and third best are #83 Villanova (without Moore) and #98 St. John's. Indiana's top three on the other hand are #26 Xavier, #28 Illinois, and #71 Michigan. They also have the we lost when we had significant injuries card that they can play.

That Wisconsin loss has been back and forth between Q2 and Q3 all season.

If the committee is going to put Wisconsin in, that OT loss to a tournament team shouldn't matter if it is Q2 or Q3, especially with Marquette's metrics.

I know it means nothing at all, let me say that, but having 4 more wins and 2 less losses yet being 3 spots behind Iowa State just looks wrong haha

[Elonsmusk]

Indiana and Kansas State ahead of Marquette is a unnatural carnal knowledgeing joke.

Indiana isn't dangerous, they lost to a mediocre Northwestern team. And it's no secret I love northwestern

Virginia in my opinion has no business being a 3 seed.  ACC is weak and just this week they were barely able to beat Louisville and ND - the 289 and 164 Ken Pom teams - by a combined 5 points total.

[cheebs09]

Virginia in my opinion has no business being a 3 seed.  ACC is weak and just this week they were barely able to beat Louisville and ND - the 289 and 164 Ken Pom teams - by a combined 5 points total.

At the end of the day, it shows up as a win or loss on the resume.

[WhiteTrash]

Reaction from CBS Sports:

1. Disrespect for Big East is strong
2. Purdue's credentials slipping
3. Lots of Big 12 love
4. Indiana way too high

I guess Scoop has it's finger on the pulse of unaffiliated national reaction. Lots of agreement here (sorry Hoosier fans)

[Herman Cain]

Reaction from CBS Sports:

1. Disrespect for Big East is strong
2. Purdue's credentials slipping
3. Lots of Big 12 love
4. Indiana way too high

I guess Scoop has it's finger on the pulse of unaffiliated national reaction. Lots of agreement here (sorry Hoosier fans)

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/ncaa-march-madness-mens-bracket-preview-takeaways-indiana-too-high-committee-snubs-big-east/amp/