Author Topic: 2023 Coaching Carousel (Read 50295 times)

Nukem2 · « **Reply #700 on:** March 23, 2023, 12:48:56 PM »

Quote from: Viper on March 23, 2023, 12:39:07 PM

Possibly I missed it listed here prior, but read former MU assistant Brett Nelson out at Holy Cross. As I recall, Nelson was highly thought of during his time here.

Thats really a tough job. Other than the Ralph Willard years inthe 2000s, this program has been rather poor since 1980.

Silent Verbal · « **Reply #701 on:** March 23, 2023, 01:12:25 PM »

Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 23, 2023, 12:43:07 PM

He was known as the shot fixer when he was here. Lot of positive vibes when he got hired to Wojo’s staff. Ties to Florida. Would make sense to latch on somewhere down there

Ah yes, The Shot Doctor. Physician, heal thyself!

GoldenEagles03 · « **Reply #702 on:** March 23, 2023, 02:31:54 PM »

Maybe I'm the only one that feels this way, but I'm not sold that both Cooley and Pitino are guaranteed to have the success everyone seems to think they will have.

I am confident both will get great talent but there is a lot pressure on Cooley now after his presser where he basically guaranteed a Natty Title. Also Pitino is what? 72 years old.

Won't be shocked at whatever results we see from those programs.

MU Fan in Connecticut · « **Reply #703 on:** March 23, 2023, 02:56:02 PM »

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 23, 2023, 02:31:54 PM

Maybe I'm the only one that feels this way, but I'm not sold that both Cooley and Pitino are guaranteed to have the success everyone seems to think they will have.

I am confident both will get great talent but there is a lot pressure on Cooley now after his presser where he basically guaranteed a Natty Title. Also Pitino is what? 72 years old.

Won't be shocked at whatever results we see from those programs.

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burger · « **Reply #704 on:** March 23, 2023, 03:13:07 PM »

Pitino yes. Because they will have a "semi-pro" team.

Cooley if he does not get the players. Really is not that great of a coach. Good but not great.

So Wojo lite. And the expectations are going to be so high for both.....

GoldenEagles03 · « **Reply #705 on:** March 23, 2023, 03:23:57 PM »

Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on March 23, 2023, 02:56:02 PM

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Still a risky 6 year hire. Not that you can't succeed at that age but I can't imagine that College Coaching lifestyle is easy. Early mornings, late nights, flying all over the country, constant meetings. Not to mention you get to a timeout at the Fiserv (and I assume other arenas in the BE) and the speakers are louder than your thoughts. He's going to have to scream at the top of his lungs at every media timeout in the Big East unlike the MAAC.

A taxing lifestyle. Good thing he's got deep pockets on his side to make it easier for him!

Frenns Liquor Depot · « **Reply #706 on:** March 23, 2023, 03:25:52 PM »

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 23, 2023, 03:23:57 PM

Still a risky 6 year hire.

Its really not that risky. This is the best coach they've hired in a generation and if it doesnt work out - they arent worse off than they were a week ago.

lawdog77 · « **Reply #707 on:** March 23, 2023, 03:29:23 PM »

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 23, 2023, 03:23:57 PM

Still a risky 6 year hire. Not that you can't succeed at that age but I can't imagine that College Coaching lifestyle is easy. Early mornings, late nights, flying all over the country, constant meetings. Not to mention you get to a timeout at the Fiserv (and I assume other arenas in the BE) and the speakers are louder than your thoughts. He's going to have to scream at the top of his lungs at every media timeout in the Big East unlike the MAAC.

A taxing lifestyle. Good thing he's got deep pockets on his side to make it easier for him!

Pitino is not going to be flying all over the country looking at AAU games. He has assistants for that. He'll be meeting recruits when they come for the bag..I mean official visit.

Pakuni · « **Reply #708 on:** March 23, 2023, 03:37:19 PM »

Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on March 23, 2023, 03:25:52 PM

Its really not that risky. This is the best coach they've hired in a generation and if it doesnt work out - they arent worse off than they were a week ago.

Rick Pitino has never left a program worse off than when he arrived.

Uncle Rico · « **Reply #709 on:** March 23, 2023, 03:46:14 PM »

Quote from: Pakuni on March 23, 2023, 03:37:19 PM

Rick Pitino has never left a program worse off than when he arrived.

True. He leaves national championships

panda · « **Reply #710 on:** March 23, 2023, 03:49:52 PM »

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 23, 2023, 03:23:57 PM

Still a risky 6 year hire. Not that you can't succeed at that age but I can't imagine that College Coaching lifestyle is easy. Early mornings, late nights, flying all over the country, constant meetings. Not to mention you get to a timeout at the Fiserv (and I assume other arenas in the BE) and the speakers are louder than your thoughts. He's going to have to scream at the top of his lungs at every media timeout in the Big East unlike the MAAC.

A taxing lifestyle. Good thing he's got deep pockets on his side to make it easier for him!

He'll have them competitive year 1. This won't be a heavy lifting rebuild in NIL and instantly eligible transfers.

DFW HOYA · « **Reply #711 on:** March 23, 2023, 04:24:22 PM »

Quote from: StillAWarrior on March 22, 2023, 04:12:36 PM

Yeah, the egos can be a real problem, but I said something similar to my daughter when I dropped her off at GU -- in the brand new (at the time) Thompson Athletic Center. I told her, "If it ever bothers you that the basketball team gets preferential treatment or extra benefits, remember that the money they bring in pays for all this."

Except it doesn't.

DegenerateDish · « **Reply #712 on:** March 23, 2023, 04:34:04 PM »

Hopefully I post this picture right, but walking through Times Square right now, LED board above has SJU welcoming Pitino.

cheebs09 · « **Reply #713 on:** March 23, 2023, 04:48:24 PM »

Quote from: DegenerateDish on March 23, 2023, 04:34:04 PM

Hopefully I post this picture right, but walking through Times Square right now, LED board above has SJU welcoming Pitino.

Virginia Tech would have used a picture of his son.

StillAWarrior · « **Reply #714 on:** March 23, 2023, 04:52:12 PM »

Quote from: DFW HOYA on March 23, 2023, 04:24:22 PM

Except it doesn't.

Of course it does. Georgetown is in the Big East because of the MBB and only for that reason. Otherwise, the investment in its athletics department and facilities would be comparable to the Patriot League. Although admittedly I should have been more specific -- there obviously is other money at play beyond what MB pulls in. But that money would not be flowing into the athletics department if not for MBB.

WhiteTrash · « **Reply #715 on:** March 23, 2023, 06:29:34 PM »

Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 23, 2023, 03:46:14 PM

True. He leaves national championships

Once

THRILLHO · « **Reply #716 on:** March 23, 2023, 06:32:17 PM »

Quote from: WhiteTrash on March 23, 2023, 06:29:34 PM

Once

Its a shame that we ever gave the ncaa the authority to use memory-wiping devices.

Uncle Rico · « **Reply #717 on:** March 23, 2023, 06:34:20 PM »

Quote from: WhiteTrash on March 23, 2023, 06:29:34 PM

Once

Twice. Kentucky and Louisville. Left Providence after a Final 4.

brewcity77 · « **Reply #718 on:** March 23, 2023, 07:28:06 PM »

Quote from: Nukem2 on March 23, 2023, 12:48:56 PM

Thats really a tough job. Other than the Ralph Willard years inthe 2000s, this program has been rather poor since 1980.

Probably a mistake to decline joining the fledgling Big East in 1979.

We R Final Four · « **Reply #719 on:** March 23, 2023, 07:39:26 PM »

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 23, 2023, 03:23:57 PM

Still a risky 6 year hire. Not that you can't succeed at that age but I can't imagine that College Coaching lifestyle is easy. Early mornings, late nights, flying all over the country, constant meetings. Not to mention you get to a timeout at the Fiserv (and I assume other arenas in the BE) and the speakers are louder than your thoughts. He's going to have to scream at the top of his lungs at every media timeout in the Big East unlike the MAAC.

A taxing lifestyle. Good thing he's got deep pockets on his side to make it easier for him!

Not risky at all for St. John’s……complete upside

Goose · « **Reply #720 on:** March 23, 2023, 07:41:52 PM »

Final Four

I agree. Love him of hate him, this is a no loss hire for SJU. He will create a high level of interest in the program and likely will build a contender in short order.