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Hards Alumni

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on March 12, 2023, 11:18:10 PM
No, media still has a job to get and report news to keep people informed.

The only gentleman's agreement would be no candidate contacts until the tournament ends.  But then most of new coaches who took their school to the dance are way behind recruiting, putting next season's team together, assembling their staff, etc..  So that's not feasible either. 

It's not a good situation for the kids like Providence, but it is what it is and has been like this forever.  They won't be scarred for life.

Yes, agreed.  It would irresponsible to not ask.

Dish

Will Wade suspended first five games of next season by McNeese State.

I don't think they've even officially introduced him yet.

avid1010

Quote from: DegenerateDish on March 14, 2023, 12:54:48 PM
Will Wade suspended first five games of next season by McNeese State.

I don't think they've even officially introduced him yet.
Hilarious...get caught paying players and you end up at a school paying $200k per year with a suspension and restrictions.

Get caught in a domestic abuse issue bad enough for your employer to cut you loose...and you land on your feet making millions. 

In any game there always had to be a loser...may it always be Ole Miss and Chris Beard.

Oldgym

Gonna go recheck my picks on PC-UK...


JWags85

Quote from: avid1010 on March 14, 2023, 01:15:47 PM
Hilarious...get caught paying players and you end up at a school paying $200k per year with a suspension and restrictions.

Get caught in a domestic abuse issue bad enough for your employer to cut you loose...and you land on your feet making millions. 

In any game there always had to be a loser...may it always be Ole Miss and Chris Beard.

Its not that deep.

Will Wade:
5 top 25 classes (2 top 5, 1 top 10, 1 top 20), 5 5* and 10 4*....
1 NCAA win (he was suspended when Tony Benford took them to the S16)
1 conference title. 

Including his time at VCU, he only has 2 NCAA wins.

Chris Beard-
TTU
2 Top 20 classes 0 5* and 7 4*
9 NCAA wins (1E8 and 1 Runner Up)
1 conference title

Texas
Top 3 class, 2 5* and 1 4*
1 NCAA win
#2 ranked team when he lit his life on fire

Will Wade, with his cash, was a better version of Wojo.  Great recruiter with middling results for it.

Chris Beard is a MUCH better who accomplished far more with "lesser" recruits and then quickly started building a monster at a top program.

Thats why Beard gets a much nicer landing than Will Wade.  Has nothing to do with each of their crimes.

MU82

The Great Ed Cooley had a future All-American point guard playing HS ball in his backyard and ignored him.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Gato78

Quote from: MU82 on March 14, 2023, 06:18:01 PM
The Great Ed Cooley had a future All-American point guard playing HS ball in his backyard and ignored him.
Cooley tried to get him from transfer portal. He called TK at 12:01am the first day he was allowed. Glad that didn't work out. 

MU82

Quote from: Gato78 on March 14, 2023, 06:42:34 PM
Cooley tried to get him from transfer portal. He called TK at 12:01am the first day he was allowed. Glad that didn't work out.

Maybe Kolek was still ticked off that Cooley had no interest in him when he was ballin' in high school.

And a big thumbs-up to your last sentence, Gato.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell


Ellenson Guerrero

Looks like Stan getting looked at for the California job. That's a tough gig but I doubt he could say no if offered. https://twitter.com/coachingchanges/status/1636067276192358409?s=46&t=HLoNtkTVfvSoDEzJafqc2g
"What we take for-granted, others pray for..." - Brent Williams 3/30/14

MU82

The Athletic's Dana O'Neil muses that if Cooley bolts to Georgetown, Pitino might be at least as interested in Providence as he would be in St. John's.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

cheebs09

Quote from: MU82 on March 17, 2023, 08:51:52 AM
The Athletic's Dana O'Neil muses that if Cooley bolts to Georgetown, Pitino might be at least as interested in Providence as he would be in St. John's.

I thought Iona's biggest selling point was he was able to live at his home on Winged Foot. He could still do that at St John's. Maybe he'd still be able to do that in the offseason at Providence.

SaveOD238

Quote from: MU82 on March 17, 2023, 08:51:52 AM
The Athletic's Dana O'Neil muses that if Cooley bolts to Georgetown, Pitino might be at least as interested in Providence as he would be in St. John's.

I'll admit, I had this thought myself.  Why not go back to where it all started?

Ellenson Guerrero

"What we take for-granted, others pray for..." - Brent Williams 3/30/14

LAZER

Quote from: Ellenson Guerrero on March 15, 2023, 05:32:15 PM
Looks like Stan getting looked at for the California job. That's a tough gig but I doubt he could say no if offered. https://twitter.com/coachingchanges/status/1636067276192358409?s=46&t=HLoNtkTVfvSoDEzJafqc2g
He should seriously think about saying no to Cal.

StillAWarrior

Quote from: LAZER on March 17, 2023, 11:12:04 AM
He should seriously think about saying no to Cal.

If Cooley doesn't happen, I'd like to see Stan at Georgetown.
Never wrestle with a pig.  You both get dirty, and the pig likes it.

The Sultan

Quote from: LAZER on March 17, 2023, 11:12:04 AM
He should seriously think about saying no to Cal.

Why? Opportunities don't around often.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

JWags85

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 17, 2023, 11:50:51 AM
Why? Opportunities don't around often.

Its a tough job and the admin hasn't been super supportive as of late from what I understand.  He'd be taking over a dumpster fire with limited resources.

The Sultan

Quote from: JWags85 on March 17, 2023, 12:36:50 PM
Its a tough job and the admin hasn't been super supportive as of late from what I understand.  He'd be taking over a dumpster fire with limited resources.

Pretty risky when you make a living in a conference with Gonzaga and St. Mary's.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

LAZER

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 17, 2023, 12:43:10 PM
Pretty risky when you make a living in a conference with Gonzaga and St. Mary's.
I just don't think it's a no brainer to take the Cal job. It's probably the worst high major job right now. It all depends on how Stan is looking at his career and I don't think it's an easy decision.

JWags85

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 17, 2023, 12:43:10 PM
Pretty risky when you make a living in a conference with Gonzaga and St. Mary's.

He got buzz and looks by getting to LMU to a 4th place finish.  He doesn't need to win the WCC.  Hell, the last 2 coaches at USF got high major jobs at better places than Cal and neither even finished top 3.

GoldenEagles03

https://twitter.com/TroyBenjamin06/status/1636780445462413347?t=NbKe7U03jSAGkK0hHwD3_g&s=19

Take random Tweets with a grain of salt, but if true...Cooley is gone. Providence can't match that.
VIOLENCE!

The Sultan

Quote from: JWags85 on March 17, 2023, 01:00:03 PM
He got buzz and looks by getting to LMU to a 4th place finish.  He doesn't need to win the WCC.  Hell, the last 2 coaches at USF got high major jobs at better places than Cal and neither even finished top 3.

Kyle Smith took a gig at a job worse than Cal and Todd Golden actually made the tournament.

It's just a risky move if you slip.  If you go to Cal and it doesn't work, you can get a Loyola type mid major job and have more money in your bank account.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

JWags85

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 17, 2023, 01:09:21 PM
Kyle Smith took a gig at a job worse than Cal and Todd Golden actually made the tournament.

It's just a risky move if you slip.  If you go to Cal and it doesn't work, you can get a Loyola type mid major job and have more money in your bank account.

WSU at the time wasn't a worse job than Cal is now.  Like was mentioned, it's probably the worst P6 job in the country right now.

Otherwise, agree to disagree.  Stan returns a decent amount of pieces.  Finish top 4 in the WCC again, win 20 games, he'll have plenty of looks

asdfasdf

Quote from: JWags85 on March 17, 2023, 01:25:37 PM
WSU at the time wasn't a worse job than Cal is now.  Like was mentioned, it's probably the worst P6 job in the country right now.

Otherwise, agree to disagree.  Stan returns a decent amount of pieces.  Finish top 4 in the WCC again, win 20 games, he'll have plenty of looks

I don't think there's any rush for Stan to take the Cal job. He should absolutely use Cal to get a raise, or force other interested schools to come forward. Worst outcome is he stays at LMU, gets a raise, and waits for the right opening.

Stan has no connections to Cal. To much risk taking a job at a school with so many unknowns in the immediate future.

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