Author Topic: 2023 Coaching Carousel (Read 88403 times)

Herman Cain · « **Reply #525 on:** March 20, 2023, 02:51:46 PM »

Quote from: nyg on March 20, 2023, 02:08:02 PM

BE needs Georgetown to get back to national prominence. You should know as you said: the cause, tv ratings, etc.

Cooley a great hire for the DMV area and can now fight with Kevin Willard over the fertile recruiting grounds, keeping the DC and Baltimore guys home. Willard already has kept some recruits for next year and is also in on some others with MU, like Faisal Abraham's son. Cooley in no way will be a "wannabe".

Cooley had a couple of highly ranked recruits for next year at PU, wonder if they follow him.

Yeah, I know the cause, TV ratings . However , Georgetown just got immediately better. It was nice having them as a doormat the last few years .

I guess PC going to take thet mantle for a while now .

Oldgym · « **Reply #526 on:** March 20, 2023, 03:07:49 PM »

Quote from: DFW HOYA on March 20, 2023, 02:48:17 PM

Georgetown still thinks it's 1985. And acts like it.

Shouldn't it? Do you like the hire?

The Equalizer · « **Reply #527 on:** March 20, 2023, 03:17:36 PM »

Quote from: Herman Cain link=topic=64234.msg1538836#msg1538836 date=

Yeah, I know the cause, TV ratings . However , Georgetown just got immediately better. It was nice having them as a doormat the last few years .

I guess PC going to take thet mantle for a while now .

They'll have to fight off Butler.

Pakuni · « **Reply #528 on:** March 20, 2023, 03:19:44 PM »

Quote from: Herman Cain on March 20, 2023, 02:51:46 PM

Yeah, I know the cause, TV ratings . However , Georgetown just got immediately better.

But how much better?
Perhaps Georgetown has a higher ceiling than Providence, but nothing on Cooley's resume hints that the JTII days are back in D.C.
In 12 years at Providence, Cooley has made the second weekend of the tourney just once. His teams have finished the season ranked just once.
He's a very good coach, but he's going to have to really step it up for Georgetown to get its money's worth.

Herman Cain · « **Reply #529 on:** March 20, 2023, 03:24:15 PM »

Johnnies stiffing Mike Anderson....
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/35903881/mike-anderson-file-lawsuit-vs-st-john-firing

Herman Cain · « **Reply #530 on:** March 20, 2023, 03:25:42 PM »

Wonder how many regular season games The Johnnies will have in The Garden now.

https://twitter.com/StJohnsBBall/status/1637897123269074946/photo/1

Spaniel with a Short Tail · « **Reply #531 on:** March 20, 2023, 03:26:07 PM »

Who's going to hire the FDU coach?

MU Fan in Connecticut · « **Reply #532 on:** March 20, 2023, 03:26:42 PM »

Quote from: Herman Cain on March 20, 2023, 03:24:15 PM

Johnnies stiffing Mike Anderson....
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/35903881/mike-anderson-file-lawsuit-vs-st-john-firing

This makes no sense. It didn't work for UConn and Kevin Ollie. They tried and he won in court.

GoldenEagles03 · « **Reply #533 on:** March 20, 2023, 03:26:54 PM »

Quote from: Herman Cain on March 20, 2023, 03:25:42 PM

Wonder how many regular season games The Johnnies will have in The Garden now.

https://twitter.com/StJohnsBBall/status/1637897123269074946/photo/1

You mean our 2nd home?

Uncle Rico · « **Reply #534 on:** March 20, 2023, 03:54:05 PM »

Providence is in a pickle. Cooley really was a great fit a native son. I don’t necessarily blame him for leaving for a few reasons. You can get stale as a coach in one spot, though it didn’t seem to be the case here. Secondly, the contract tells me GTown just got serious about hoops.

The Dence shouldn’t rush for a hire. Get the right fit and best coach. I’m not a huge Bobby Hurley guy, but if he’s available, I think he’s a natural east coast guy.

Ryan Odom and Pat Kelsey probably get calls as well. Seen Kim English kicked around as well.

Goose · « **Reply #535 on:** March 20, 2023, 05:02:58 PM »

Rico

I like that Bobby Hurley call. Not a big fan of his, but think it would be a good fit and bring even more juice to the BE.

The Equalizer · « **Reply #536 on:** March 20, 2023, 05:54:57 PM »

Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut link=topic=64234.msg1538848#msg1538848 date=

This makes no sense. It didn't work for UConn and Kevin Ollie. They tried and he won in court.

Of course it makes sense to try.

If you win, you save $11 million. If you lose, you're paying the $11 million you would have had to pay anyway.

And chances are, you can negotiate something less than the full $11 million at the negotiating table before it reaches arbitration. Anderson likely doesn't want to sting this out and risk getting nothing.

My understanding is that UConn played hardball thinking that the NCAA violations would make that case unwinnable by Ollie. It sounds like they could have settled for less during negotiations, but refused.

jfp61 · « **Reply #537 on:** March 20, 2023, 06:04:39 PM »

Quote from: The Equalizer on March 20, 2023, 05:54:57 PM

Of course it makes sense to try.

If you win, you save $11 million. If you lose, you're paying the $11 million you would have had to pay anyway.

And chances are, you can negotiate something less than the full $11 million at the negotiating table before it reaches arbitration. Anderson likely doesn't want to sting this out and risk getting nothing.

My understanding is that UConn played hardball thinking that the NCAA violations would make that case unwinnable by Ollie. It sounds like they could have settled for less during negotiations, but refused.

Plus legal fees

Pakuni · « **Reply #538 on:** March 20, 2023, 06:30:16 PM »

Quote from: jfp61 on March 20, 2023, 06:04:39 PM

Plus legal fees

Ding! Ding! Ding!
If you lose, you're not only paying Anderson his $11 million, you're paying your legal fees and perhaps his legal fees, and perhaps damages.
UConn ended up paying Ollie about $15 million in all, not to mention four years worth of its own legal fees, in its hamfisted attempt to avoid paying him $10 million.

MuggsyB · « **Reply #539 on:** March 20, 2023, 06:37:33 PM »

The BEast is a great conference and just got more interesting. If I was Providence I would be patient and not automatically think Bobby Hurley is the right fit.

willie warrior · « **Reply #540 on:** March 20, 2023, 06:48:25 PM »

Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on March 20, 2023, 01:56:47 PM

Pete Thamel reporting Pitino agrees to 6 year deal with St. John's.

Catholic institute of higher learning hiring a big time sleaze bucket.

Uncle Rico · « **Reply #541 on:** March 20, 2023, 06:50:46 PM »

Quote from: willie warrior on March 20, 2023, 06:48:25 PM

Catholic institute of higher learning hiring a big time sleaze bucket.

Two-time national champion

Ellenson Guerrero · « **Reply #542 on:** March 20, 2023, 06:51:15 PM »

Quote from: MuggsyB on March 20, 2023, 06:37:33 PM

The BEast is a great conference and just got more interesting. If I was Providence I would be patient and not automatically think Bobby Hurley is the right fit.

Can’t really be “patient” with coaching hires. You need your new coach out there working the portal yesterday. Otherwise your new coach is starting at a major deficit. Cooley really screwed PC over if he didn’t tell them weeks ago he was taking the GT job.

MuggsyB · « **Reply #543 on:** March 20, 2023, 07:03:44 PM »

Quote from: Ellenson Guerrero on March 20, 2023, 06:51:15 PM

Can’t really be “patient” with coaching hires. You need your new coach out there working the portal yesterday. Otherwise your new coach is starting at a major deficit. Cooley really screwed PC over if he didn’t tell them weeks ago he was taking the GT job.

It seems like a d move but there are a number of decent cosches that will be available.

CountryRoads · « **Reply #544 on:** March 20, 2023, 07:16:03 PM »

Quote from: MuggsyB on March 20, 2023, 07:03:44 PM

It seems like a d move but there are a number of decent cosches that will be available.

If Providence is willing to pay the next coach what they paid Cooley, they may end up ahead. If they care about being good next year, they should act quick.