Athletic Top 5

[tower912]

Faux rage.

[lawdog77]

You're right it's an overreaction but I don't think it unfair for general populations to expect good well thought out content rather than cheap buzzfeed clickbait equivalents. And part of that good content would be have a reasonable argument to defend your case, in the situation with Sean Miller it's more than fair for twitter Scoopers to ask "hey something's not adding up here"

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[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I don't think the article sucks or Seth Davis hates us. It's not an amazing article but it was a fun read and enjoyed the recognition some of our guys got, especially Chase.

I also think Shaka should be in his top 5 COY candidates over Miller.

Expressing an opinion about an omission doesn't make someone fragile or that they think the omitter hates their team.

[wadesworld]

You're right it's an overreaction but I don't think it unfair for general populations to expect good well thought out content rather than cheap buzzfeed clickbait equivalents. And part of that good content would be have a reasonable argument to defend your case, in the situation with Sean Miller it's more than fair for twitter Scoopers to ask "hey something's not adding up here"

Agreed.  It's totally fair to think, "Shaka deserves a COY award, whether national or BE, more than Sean Miller."  No problem with that at all, and I'd agree.  But I also understand that these national reporters, writing about a national award and a bunch of topics, aren't going to do super deep dives into these mid season.  Hopefully if they have a vote in the actual award, they'll do that deep dive when it's time to submit their actual ballot.  But there are a lot of good candidates, including Sean Miller and Shaka Smart, and my guess is that at the time Seth was writing the article Xavier was alone in the Big East and had a head to head win over Marquette.  He's taken a roster that missed the NCAA Tournament last year, added a quality transfer, and currently has them tied for first in the Big East and in position to be a top 4 seed.  He's deserving of recognition, even if Shaka might deserve it more.

To me, it's okay to see people have an opinion of Marquette that Marquette fans might not agree with and not have to jump all over them on Twitter or article comments.  Apparently to much of the fanbase, we can't let one slight go, even if it is along with some very positive "awards" for other people on the team.

[wadesworld]

I don't think the article sucks or Seth Davis hates us. It's not an amazing article but it was a fun read and enjoyed the recognition some of our guys got, especially Chase.

I also think Shaka should be in his top 5 COY candidates over Miller.

Expressing an opinion about an omission doesn't make someone fragile or that they think the omitter hates their team.

It doesn't.  But when Marquette fans are all over everyone's mentions or in every comment section claiming people are clueless because they disrespect Marquette, it gets pretty old and tired.  Which is probably why Marquette (allegedly) gets ignored by the media.

[MU82]

To me, it's okay to see people have an opinion of Marquette that Marquette fans might not agree with and not have to jump all over them on Twitter or article comments.  Apparently to much of the fanbase, we can't let one slight go, even if it is along with some very positive "awards" for other people on the team.

I agree with all of this, wades.

Can only speak for myself -- I neither posted anything on the twatter nor in article comments. I posted on a Marquette fanboard (this one) that I thought it was a foolish omission. I'm guessing that most Scoopers who have posted similar thoughts here also haven't gone wild on other social media about this.

So yes, I think some folks go over the top on this kind of thing. But I also think it's over the top to say that the likes of TAMU and I (and most Scoopers) are outraged or angry or "can't let one slight go." We think Shaka was overlooked and we said so. What's a fanboard for?

[Skatastrophy]

In a weird way, that makes sense. He might think the team is "smoke and mirrors" and is winning because of the coach, not talent.

This is a great point.

So Shaka isn't a Top 5 coach because he was gifted such a talented team by Wojo. Wojo is a Top 5 coach.

[Pakuni]

So yes, I think some folks go over the top on this kind of thing. But I also think it's over the top to say that the likes of TAMU and I (and most Scoopers) are outraged or angry or "can't let one slight go." We think Shaka was overlooked and we said so. What's a fanboard for?

Obviously people are free to disagree with Davis (as I do) and free to express that disagreement here or anywhere else.
I think what's being mocked is the righteous indignation over Seth Davis having a different opinion.
His opinion is not just wrong, it's "idiotic." He's "borderline brain dead." It's "unfair." It's a "special brand of stupid."
Guys ... it's just his opinion.

Now, to further the wailing and gnashing ...

247's Top 10 Midseason coaches of the year list doesn't include Shaka. He's in the "just missed the cut" category. Miller is there.
https://247sports.com/LongFormArticle/College-basketballs-10-midseason-contenders-for-National-Coach-of-the-Year-203697357/#203697357_11

Jeff Goodman doesn't put Shaka in his Midseason Coach of the Year candidates. And yes, Sean Miller is there.
https://watchstadium.com/videos/leading-coach-of-the-year-candidates-in-college-basketball-mens-basketball/

So unfair!

[wadesworld]

Obviously people are free to disagree with Davis (as I do) and free to express that disagreement here or anywhere else.
I think what's being mocked is the righteous indignation over Seth Davis having a different opinion.
His opinion is not just wrong, it's "idiotic." He's "borderline brain dead." It's "unfair." It's a "special brand of stupid."
Guys ... it's just his opinion.

Now, to further the wailing and gnashing ...

247's Top 10 Midseason coaches of the year list doesn't include Shaka. He's in the "just missed the cut" category. Miller is there.
https://247sports.com/LongFormArticle/College-basketballs-10-midseason-contenders-for-National-Coach-of-the-Year-203697357/#203697357_11

Jeff Goodman doesn't put Shaka in his Midseason Coach of the Year candidates. And yes, Sean Miller is there.
https://watchstadium.com/videos/leading-coach-of-the-year-candidates-in-college-basketball-mens-basketball/

So unfair!

Shoot.  Forget everything I said.  Can someone please post their Twitter handles?  I have some mentioning to do!

[muwarrior69]

Well this guy likes us.

https://www.espn.com/chalk/story/_/id/35563391/ncaa-college-basketball-betting-odds-teams-buy-fade-march-madness

[wadesworld]

Well this guy likes us.

https://www.espn.com/chalk/story/_/id/35563391/ncaa-college-basketball-betting-odds-teams-buy-fade-march-madness

Marquette to win the Big East, but then Creighton to win the title and make the Final Four without saying anything about MU there?  At this guy!

[MU82]

Obviously people are free to disagree with Davis (as I do) and free to express that disagreement here or anywhere else.
I think what's being mocked is the righteous indignation over Seth Davis having a different opinion.
His opinion is not just wrong, it's "idiotic." He's "borderline brain dead." It's "unfair." It's a "special brand of stupid."
Guys ... it's just his opinion.

Now, to further the wailing and gnashing ...

247's Top 10 Midseason coaches of the year list doesn't include Shaka. He's in the "just missed the cut" category. Miller is there.
https://247sports.com/LongFormArticle/College-basketballs-10-midseason-contenders-for-National-Coach-of-the-Year-203697357/#203697357_11

Jeff Goodman doesn't put Shaka in his Midseason Coach of the Year candidates. And yes, Sean Miller is there.
https://watchstadium.com/videos/leading-coach-of-the-year-candidates-in-college-basketball-mens-basketball/

So unfair!

All that's fair, Pak.

I respectfully disagree with all of those fine folks ... as I believe that this particular opinion is idiotic. 

[Tha Hound]

All sports writers are brain dead (except Ben)

[Carl]

Shaka Smart, Marquette: Smart didn't make a ton of waves in the transfer portal, but his player-development program is flexing right now. The Golden Eagles look like one of the best teams in the ACC, and Marquette's offense is ranked No. 1 on KenPom. Smart looks right at home at Marquette.

Going to win the BE and the ACC this year apparently. Unified belts!

[wadesworld]

Shaka Smart, Marquette: Smart didn't make a ton of waves in the transfer portal, but his player-development program is flexing right now. The Golden Eagles look like one of the best teams in the ACC, and Marquette's offense is ranked No. 1 on KenPom. Smart looks right at home at Marquette.

Going to win the BE and the ACC this year apparently. Unified belts!

Can you please let me know where this is from so I can @ the fool?

[Carl]

Can you please let me know where this is from so I can @ the fool?

The 247 link above

[StillAWarrior]

You're right it's an overreaction but I don't think it unfair for general populations to expect good well thought out content rather than cheap buzzfeed clickbait equivalents.