Tyre Nichols

[The Sultan]

it's about human decency and respect for the other PERSON.  when people beat up, shoot, torture, rape, violate another human being, it's wrong wrong WRONG-PERIOD.  i don't give a chit what race is involved-why is this so hard.  putting race into this just further divides us.  we are all against what happened and believe it was obviously wrong.  decent, civilized human beings do not do this to each other.  don't divide this into race or religion or anything-people should have souls that tell them certain things are just wrong.  character defects need to be addressed appropriately

Rocket over here with his fingers in his ears shouting very loudly.

[real chili 83]

Systemic racism in policing is real. Anybody who denies it simply doesn't want to see it.

Also in housing, medicine, academics, business and politics, but those forms of systemic racism are usually more subtle than "rogue" cops harassing, beating and/or murdering people just for being Black.

It is thinking by the likes of roQQet -- who simply can't help but race to "ANTIFA!" and other dog-whistle tropes -- that keeps the systemic racism alive.

I mean, during and immediately after his hero's 1/6/21 coup attempt, roQQet and those who think like him actually tried to blame antifa for it. It must be reassuring to always be able to drum up hatred for big, bad, dark "evildoers" anytime it's convenient.

Some of your better work here.

[rocket surgeon]

The system puts race into it.  You're just not willing to acknowledge that it is a factor.  We all know who you are already.

hardy-you don't know jack! "the system"?  kinda like climate change  you guys come up with your b.s. and it's all crap you can't quite put your finger on, but just trust us...it's stuff that you guys can't quantitate and it never ever never goes away.  no amount of money is ever enough.  just keep it coming and you'll tell us when it's all better right

[The Sultan]

hardy-you don't know jack! "the system"?  kinda like climate change  you guys come up with your b.s. and it's all crap you can't quite put your finger on, but just trust us...it's stuff that you guys can't quantitate and it never ever never goes away.  no amount of money is ever enough.  just keep it coming and you'll tell us when it's all better right

Someone needs a nap.

[Uncle Rico]

hardy-you don't know jack! "the system"?  kinda like climate change  you guys come up with your b.s. and it's all crap you can't quite put your finger on, but just trust us...it's stuff that you guys can't quantitate and it never ever never goes away.  no amount of money is ever enough.  just keep it coming and you'll tell us when it's all better right

8.5 out of 10

Good work but I've seen better

[Vander Blue Man Group]

hardy-you don't know jack! "the system"?  kinda like climate change  you guys come up with your b.s. and it's all crap you can't quite put your finger on, but just trust us...it's stuff that you guys can't quantitate and it never ever never goes away.  no amount of money is ever enough.  just keep it coming and you'll tell us when it's all better right

Is this a parody account?

[tower912]

Is this a parody account?

It is, but unintentionally.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

8.5 out of 10

Good work but I've seen better

1:07.24

Not your best race today.  Should had your Wheaties.

[Uncle Rico]

1:07.24

Not your best race today.  Should had your Wheaties.

He'll give me plenty of opportunities

[rocket surgeon]

1:07.24

Not your best race today.  Should had your Wheaties.

  that's why they call em the libraries...musta been a 3 wipe'er ey?

[TSmith34, Inc.]

kinda like climate change  you guys come up with your b.s. and it's all crap you can't quite put your finger on, but just trust us

Perfect.

Everyone knows the climate change hoax was conceived in the basement of Comet Ping Pong pizza.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Perfect.

Everyone knows the climate change hoax was conceived in the basement of Comet Ping Pong pizza.

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[TSmith34, Inc.]

2🐷🐷

Poor pziggy

[wadesworld]

He'll give me plenty of opportunities

Lol. This is your finest work on Scoop.

[MU82]

Social scientists, lawyers and others who deal with racial issues involving police noted how swiftly these Black cops were fired and charged vs. how slowly white cops who commit similar crimes historically have been fired and/or charged.

Even in police policing their own, there appears to be systemic racism.

[MuggsyB]

Social scientists, lawyers and others who deal with racial issues involving police noted how swiftly these Black cops were fired and charged vs. how slowly white cops who commit similar crimes historically have been fired and/or charged.


Even in police policing their own, there appears to be systemic racism.

Weren't they fired by the Memphis chief of police who is black?  What exactly are the qualifications for being an expert on systemic racism?  Are "lawyers, social-scientists, and those that deal with these issues" more qualified than black police chiefs?  Every one of these terrible tragedies have been different and obviously we have severe problems.  In this case there was pretty much zero doubt regarding the total incompetence of these 5 officers and the blatant disregard for humanity.  I don't agree that if there where 5 white/hispanic/asian officers in this case/video that they would not have been terminated immediately. 

[MU82]

Weren't they fired by the Memphis chief of police who is black?  What exactly are the qualifications for being an expert on systemic racism?  Are "lawyers, social-scientists, and those that deal with these issues" more qualified than black police chiefs?  Every one of these terrible tragedies have been different and obviously we have severe problems.  In this case there was pretty much zero doubt regarding the total incompetence of these 5 officers and the blatant disregard for humanity.  I don't agree that if there where 5 white/hispanic/asian officers in this case/video that they would not have been terminated immediately.

In previous cases, white officers usually have been given more slack, more time on "administrative leave," more time before video is released, etc.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/28/us/police-tyre-nichols-beating-race.html?campaign_id=9&emc=edit_nn_20230129&instance_id=83979&nl=the-morning&regi_id=108420427&segment_id=123846&te=1&user_id=d36dcf821462fdd16ec3636710a855fa

Now, perhaps some of it is an accumulation of things. What I mean is that, as this happens more and as the public awareness is increased, maybe officers of all races will be treated more equally in situations like these because precedence is being set. But the next time a Black man is murdered by cops in a similar case, and if the cops are white, let's see if they are dealt with as quickly and harshly as these Black cops were. Maybe they will be, Muggs, and the tide is finally turning.

[Pakuni]

Weren't they fired by the Memphis chief of police who is black?  What exactly are the qualifications for being an expert on systemic racism?  Are "lawyers, social-scientists, and those that deal with these issues" more qualified than black police chiefs?  Every one of these terrible tragedies have been different and obviously we have severe problems.  In this case there was pretty much zero doubt regarding the total incompetence of these 5 officers and the blatant disregard for humanity.  I don't agree that if there where 5 white/hispanic/asian officers in this case/video that they would not have been terminated immediately.

An examination of racial differences in the disciplining of police officers in three of the largest U.S. cities consistently found that Black officers were more frequently disciplined for misconduct than white officers, despite an essentially equal number of allegations being leveled. This included allegations of severe misconduct.

https://news.iu.edu/live/news/27199-black-police-officers-disciplined

[4everwarriors]

Nah Mike, this was such a blatant case of abuse of power by the police, they would have been fired immediately if they were blue, black, green, or red. As a reminder, these cops are black, the victim is black, the police chief who fired the cops is black, and the mayor is black. Let's not see ghosts where none exist, hey?

[The Sultan]

Nah Mike, this was such a blatant case of abuse of power by the police, they would have been fired immediately if they were blue, black, green, or red. As a reminder, these cops are black, the victim is black, the police chief who fired the cops is black, and the mayor is black. Let's not see ghosts where none exist, hey?

<sigh>

You still don't get it. No one is saying the cops who committed these actions are racist. Or that the police chief is racist. Or that the mayor is racist. If they were, that would be an easier fix. You would simply replace the cops...chief...or mayor with a different person and the problem would be solved.

The problem is that black people are more likely to be the victims of police violence even when normalized for age, gender, location, etc.  Here is a study that shows that while white suspects are MORE likely to show signs of mental illness and MORE likely to be armed, the instances of police violence against black victims is greater than white or Hispanic victims.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/21533687211047943

[MuggsyB]

It's absolutely true that blacks are more likely to be victims of police violence.  I'm not sure anyone is disputing that.  The level of competence in our police departments is what concerns me after this incident (and others )as well as overall violent crimes in our cities.

It's a troubling situation and I don't know exactly what to believe as far as the impact of retirements and defunding.   What I do know is good/honest people aren't signing up in droves to be cops.  We have a multifaceted problem and I haven't read any clear solutions regarding all of these issues.  Stating emphatically that police departments are systemically racist or we have 20% good cops aren't exactly what I would call solutions.  Even if these are absolute facts.

[The Sultan]

We have more full time law enforcement officers now than we did a decade ago. Yes it is down from its peak, but that's not due to "defunding." Its due to the same factors hitting every workforce across the economy today. People are retiring and there are less people around to take their place.

[MuggsyB]

We have more full time law enforcement officers now than we did a decade ago. Yes it is down from its peak, but that's not due to "defunding." Its due to the same factors hitting every workforce across the economy today. People are retiring and there are less people around to take their place.

These 5 cops were inexcusably incompetent criminals and abusive.   The insinuations I have read are that this is not that unusual, the race of these cops is irrelevant.  So it's not about how many cops we have but whether they are capable and competent and do not engage in ruthless, criminal behavior. 

[Pakuni]

We have more full time law enforcement officers now than we did a decade ago. Yes it is down from its peak, but that's not due to "defunding." Its due to the same factors hitting every workforce across the economy today. People are retiring and there are less people around to take their place.

It's also due to fewer people wanting to be cops. A large majority of police departments across the country, big and small, can't fill open positions.

[Uncle Rico]

It's also due to fewer people wanting to be cops. A large majority of police departments across the country, big and small, can't fill open positions.

We've spent decades vilifying public servants for political points and we can't fill those positions you say?