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Marqevans

Did anyone see at the end of the game Oso putting his arm around Gold. Is Gold upset about playing time?

avid1010

Quote from: Marqevans on January 22, 2023, 10:13:18 AM
Did anyone see at the end of the game Oso putting his arm around Gold. Is Gold upset about playing time?
No.

The Sultan

I think it was because when he got his chance, he played pretty poorly.  Just a teammate lifting up another.
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Oldgym

I think Sultan's right. From what I see in the huddle, Oso is a coach-in-waiting.

Elonsmusk

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on January 22, 2023, 10:17:10 AM
I think it was because when he got his chance, he played pretty poorly.  Just a teammate lifting up another.

Good leadership moment for Oso.  I also felt Shaka could have let Ben play through that turnover.  We were still up 15ish at that moment.  That aside Shaka is a big fan of Ben's and invests heavily into letting Ben know how good he can be and how high he is on him.

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MUfan12

Quote from: Marqevans on January 22, 2023, 10:13:18 AM
Did anyone see at the end of the game Oso putting his arm around Gold. Is Gold upset about playing time?

I'm sure Ben wants to play more, and play better than he did. Yesterday the game seemed too fast for him. Shaka has alluded to it, but I've heard he really struggled with homesickness earlier in the year. There's a lot on his plate, and he's no doubt putting pressure on himself.

Oso doing that tells me a lot about his character and his leadership qualities. He's been through it too, struggling to gain a foothold as a freshman.

If Ben is here long term he's going to be a handful for this league.

Nukem2

Quote from: MUfan12 on January 22, 2023, 10:29:13 AM
I'm sure Ben wants to play more, and play better than he did. Yesterday the game seemed too fast for him. Shaka has alluded to it, but I've heard he really struggled with homesickness earlier in the year. There's a lot on his plate, and he's no doubt putting pressure on himself.

Oso doing that tells me a lot about his character and his leadership qualities. He's been through it too, struggling to gain a foothold as a freshman.

If Ben is here long term he's going to be a handful for this league.
Aside from any personal issues like homesickness or whatever, Ben needs to play with much more focus and tenacity than he has shown in most games. That turnover yesterday was really lazy and sloppy resulting in Ben getting yanked from the game. Ben obviously has decent size, mobility and skills but he really needs to toughen up and play hard all the time.

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Ben needs 2 years of weight training, right now to soft.  Shaka plays him a little out of position, more of a 3 then a 4 or 5.  Against certain teams he is a mismatch.  Since he can hit the three he will become valuable in the future.  Add some muscle and he will be fine.

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If Ben stays, in two years he will be a stretch 4-5 and a match up nightmare.  I am picturing him doing what Oso does now, only with 3 pt. range
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Elonsmusk

Quote from: Nukem2 on January 22, 2023, 10:34:58 AM
Aside from any personal issues like homesickness or whatever, Ben needs to play with much more focus and tenacity than he has shown in most games. That turnover yesterday was really lazy and sloppy resulting in Ben getting yanked from the game. Ben obviously has decent size, mobility and skills but he really needs to toughen up and play hard all the time.

This is a little over the top.  Ben has played hard when's he's played.  Crap happens, yesterday's turnover is something that would happen maybe 1 out of 100 times Ben makes that play.  Hope to see Ben get some extended run in future games where we are in control.

Nukem2

Quote from: Elonsmusk on January 22, 2023, 11:16:00 AM
This is a little over the top.  Ben has played hard when's he's played.  Crap happens, yesterday's turnover is something that would happen maybe 1 out of 100 times Ben makes that play.  Hope to see Ben get some extended run in future games where we are in control.
Maybe so, but Shaka certainly had a quick hook after that play.

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It was that....and the foul on the and 1 10 seconds later.

NCMUFan

IMHO Ben Gold needs to start playing like he is 6-11".
Currently he is playing like he is 6'-0".
Dude, you are the tallest player on the court.  Play like it!

GoldenEagles03

Quote from: NCMUFan on January 22, 2023, 02:17:52 PM
IMHO Ben Gold needs to start playing like he is 6-11".
Currently he is playing like he is 6'-0".
Dude, you are the tallest player on the court.  Play like it!

He played 3 minutes yesterday and had a block.  He's a pretty strong paint presence defensively but Oso is just so good.  Might see Gold get more playing time with Oso if he's going to get minutes.
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Quote from: tower912 on January 22, 2023, 11:01:49 AM
If Ben stays, in two years he will be a stretch 4-5 and a match up nightmare.  I am picturing him doing what Oso does now, only with 3 pt. range

I don't think he's a 5 at all. Stretch 4 sure, but he has so much bounce I see him more as a wing than a 5.

Elonsmusk

Quote from: NCMUFan on January 22, 2023, 02:17:52 PM
IMHO Ben Gold needs to start playing like he is 6-11".
Currently he is playing like he is 6'-0".
Dude, you are the tallest player on the court.  Play like it!

Except he blocks shots at a rate 2x Oso. So. There's that. Quite frankly, I think Shaka has it wrong and should be playing Joplin and Ben in an inverse fashion.

The Sultan

The problem with Gold is that it is all way too fast for him. I doubt he played anywhere near this speed in New Zealand.
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Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on January 22, 2023, 02:28:52 PM
The problem with Gold is that it is all way too fast for him. I doubt he played anywhere near this speed in New Zealand.

This has been my take also. The question is can he adjust and learn to play faster? I sure hope so.
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Elonsmusk

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on January 22, 2023, 02:28:52 PM
The problem with Gold is that it is all way too fast for him. I doubt he played anywhere near this speed in New Zealand.

I disagree that "it is all way too fast for him," but I agree that he didn't play competition at this speed in New Zealand or as part of their National team.  However, Gold is fleeter of foot than Jop, though probably not as strong.

I guess as Goose mentioned in the Joplin thread, if our biggest worry is about David Joplin (and I'll add Ben Gold), we are in fantastic shape as they both are very good prospects in different ways.

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Quote from: tower912 on January 22, 2023, 11:01:49 AM
If Ben stays, in two years he will be a stretch 4-5 and a match up nightmare.  I am picturing him doing what Oso does now, only with 3 pt. range

Agree 100% Tower.  I look forward to Ben's development and I think next year he will show considerable development.  Two years from now, look out.  The kid has God given talent and height.

The Sultan

Quote from: Elonsmusk on January 22, 2023, 04:41:55 PM
I disagree that "it is all way too fast for him," but I agree that he didn't play competition at this speed in New Zealand or as part of their National team.  However, Gold is fleeter of foot than Jop, though probably not as strong.

I guess as Goose mentioned in the Joplin thread, if our biggest worry is about David Joplin (and I'll add Ben Gold), we are in fantastic shape as they both are very good prospects in different ways.


It's not that Gold's not fast, it just looks like he is a half second behind. A lot of freshmen go through that.
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