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DegenerateDish

Quote from: Pakuni on August 23, 2023, 09:37:06 PM
I wouldn't necessarily put anything past Bradley, but Rosemont is so much more built up compared to 20-30 years ago when it had a bunch of land set aside for a casino. I just don't know where they'd put it now. Would they be willing to tear down the Allstate? Could they even fit a stadium there? Gut the entertainment district? Tear down the mall?
The village just bought the last undeveloped piece of property in town. It's all of 19 acres.
Agaiin, not much they do surprises me, I just don't know where a baseball stadium would go without some significant tear down.

You're definitely right, open land is not readily available like it was 20 years ago in Rosemont. I just think they find a way to make it happen somehow. I did think about AllState too, and if they would tear it down for a ballpark, but even that might not be enough land. If I remember correctly, I believe Rosemont built Impact Field (where the Dogs play) with all $60ish million provided by the village. No idea if they could retrofit that into an MLB stadium.

PGsHeroes32

I think there is gonna end up some real buyer beware on Ohtani.

Guy is insane and is gonna get paid beyond anything before as he should. But he has now left like 5 starts this year with random injuries. To this point none have been major(will see what comes of this soreness today), but that is wild.

There is a decent chance imo that within like 3 years he could end up strictly a hitter. If he dont pick up a position hes gonna have to bat like this year every year to make that money close to worth it.

Hope hes able to be a pitcher a long time though. Gotta find a good way to preserve the arm while still using it.
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

tower912

Not just a random injury.  Torn UCL.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

4everwarriors

Shoulda peddled his ass, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

21Jumpstreet

#704
Brutal for all involved. I read he has yet to choose surgery, could he still hit if he forgoes Tommy John? I can't imagine, but he is built differently it seems.

Edit: I didn't realize he had TJ surgery in 2018 for a torn UCL. Really a bummer for him.

The Sultan

Quote from: 4everwarriors on August 24, 2023, 05:52:37 AM
Shoulda peddled his ass, hey?

Yep. Really poor decision by the Angels.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

Pakuni

Quote from: DegenerateDish on August 23, 2023, 10:25:59 PM
You're definitely right, open land is not readily available like it was 20 years ago in Rosemont. I just think they find a way to make it happen somehow. I did think about AllState too, and if they would tear it down for a ballpark, but even that might not be enough land. If I remember correctly, I believe Rosemont built Impact Field (where the Dogs play) with all $60ish million provided by the village. No idea if they could retrofit that into an MLB stadium.

That's a good question about Impact Field. It's wedged up right against the Tri-State,so it would be a tight fit at best. I imagine a ballpark could be doable, but not sure where they'd fit surrounding parking, road expansion, amenities, etc. Plus, no public transportation (the Rosemont Blue Line station is at least two miles away).
Why not Arlington Park? Plenty of space for a baseball and football stadium there, and two-stadium campuses have worked in plenty of other places (Philly, Seattle, Dallas, KC, etc.).

The Sultan

Quote from: Pakuni on August 24, 2023, 10:48:52 AM
That's a good question about Impact Field. It's wedged up right against the Tri-State,so it would be a tight fit at best. I imagine a ballpark could be doable, but not sure where they'd fit surrounding parking, road expansion, amenities, etc. Plus, no public transportation (the Rosemont Blue Line station is at least two miles away).
Why not Arlington Park? Plenty of space for a baseball and football stadium there, and two-stadium campuses have worked in plenty of other places (Philly, Seattle, Dallas, KC, etc.).

Wouldn't the Sox be a tenant of the Bears in that scenario? I would think that part of what they want is the property development perks that come with a new stadium.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

RJax55

Quote from: DegenerateDish on August 23, 2023, 10:25:59 PM
You're definitely right, open land is not readily available like it was 20 years ago in Rosemont. I just think they find a way to make it happen somehow. I did think about AllState too, and if they would tear it down for a ballpark, but even that might not be enough land. If I remember correctly, I believe Rosemont built Impact Field (where the Dogs play) with all $60ish million provided by the village. No idea if they could retrofit that into an MLB stadium.

I don't think there's enough space in Rosemob for it.

Even at the AllState site, they would need to buy out and remove the apartment buildings and light industry that sits between AllState and Touhy. Even if that was arraigned, still not sure there would be enough space for a MLB stadium and associated entertainment spaces.

Pakuni

#709
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on August 24, 2023, 11:07:14 AM
Wouldn't the Sox be a tenant of the Bears in that scenario? I would think that part of what they want is the property development perks that come with a new stadium.

They could be a tenant, or they could buy land, or they could enter into some kind of joint venture similar to what Reinsdorf did with the Blackhawks at the United Center. Or they could find a site more in line with their goals. Just throwing it out there as a credible option.
I don't see a ballpark - especially in the Midwest - serving as the same kind of development magnet as a domed football stadium, though. A handful of bars and restaurants, sure. But not much else. 

Hards Alumni

Quote from: Pakuni on August 24, 2023, 11:19:30 AM
They could be a tenant, or they could buy land, or they could enter into some kind of joint venture similar to what Reinsdorf did with the Blackhawks at the United Center. Or they could find a site more in line with their goals. Just throwing it out there as a credible option.
I don't see a ballpark - especially in the Midwest - serving as the same kind of development magnet as a domed football stadium, though. A handful of bars and restaurants, sure. But not much else.

Personally, I think baseball is becoming a questionable investment for major cities.  New parks are expensive and the popularity of baseball is certainly on the decline.

Pakuni

Quote from: Hards Alumni on August 24, 2023, 12:23:10 PM
Personally, I think baseball is becoming a questionable investment for major cities.  New parks are expensive and the popularity of baseball is certainly on the decline.

You may be right, though both attendance and TV ratings (local and national) have been up so far this year. Likely just a slight correction from the lows of 2021-22.

I'm not sure there's ever been a time when a baseball stadium was a good investment of public money. But even with that and some dip in popularity, it's a safe bet that a good team in an attractive ballpark is going to attract 2+ million people every year for the foreseeable future ... and at least as long as the life of any stadium built today.

DegenerateDish

I think you guys are right about Rosemont, probably just not enough space to make it work. I think ten years ago they'd have jumped all over it, but the more I thought about it, I think you guys are making better arguments against it than I am for it.

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: DegenerateDish on August 24, 2023, 05:13:54 PM
I think you guys are right about Rosemont, probably just not enough space to make it work. I think ten years ago they'd have jumped all over it, but the more I thought about it, I think you guys are making better arguments against it than I am for it.

I thought Jerry bought land in Addison last time? 

Shaka Shart

Naperville area from a population standpoint is intriguing but I'm not sure I see the residents wanting that outside traffic
" You seem to be arguing that 82's anus is still intact." - Not A Serious Person

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Silent Verbal

Has anybody been playing Immaculate Grid?  Really fun stuff.  I play the baseball one, but they also have football and basketball.

Pakuni

Quote from: Silent Verbal on August 24, 2023, 11:16:52 PM
Has anybody been playing Immaculate Grid?  Really fun stuff.  I play the baseball one, but they also have football and basketball.

Love it. Also hockey and rhe other football.
A similar site call Crossover Grid also has golf.

cheebs09

Quote from: Silent Verbal on August 24, 2023, 11:16:52 PM
Has anybody been playing Immaculate Grid?  Really fun stuff.  I play the baseball one, but they also have football and basketball.

Yup, it's a lot of fun. I'm probably best at the basketball. Having MU guys that have played on multiple teams helps.

ZiggysFryBoy

2 people shot inside Sox Park during the game tonight.

Jockey

Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on August 25, 2023, 10:53:50 PM
2 people shot inside Sox Park during the game tonight.

It was just 2 Sox players attempting suicide.

ZiggysFryBoy

Quote from: Jockey on August 25, 2023, 10:58:04 PM
It was just 2 Sox players attempting suicide.

Wow.  Absolute trash.

DegenerateDish

Sox/CPD have a lot of questions to answer. How the hell did they continue playing this game?

Shaka Shart

Quote from: Jockey on August 25, 2023, 10:58:04 PM
It was just 2 Sox players attempting suicide.

Pretty sh*tyy
" You seem to be arguing that 82's anus is still intact." - Not A Serious Person

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January 3, 2019, 05:33:00 PM

cheebs09

Brew Crew, so hot right now. Brew Crew.

tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

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