Bracketology Thread 2023

[WhiteTrash]

Maybe its just me, but if not MU, then I would love to VU win the Big East Tournament and steal a big from the Big 10. 

[Scoop Snoop]

Maybe its just me, but if not MU, then I would love to VU win the Big East Tournament and steal a bid from the Big 10. 

Especially if the addition of Nova somewhere pushed UW into first four out. 

Hoping that we win the BET but with X, Cr, PC, UCONN and a revived Nova in the mix, who knows? One thing for sure- it's going to be an especially good tourney.

Back to the thread- a #2 seed may be a stretch, but it would be so sweet!

[Tyler COLEk]

Isn't it convceivable for Nova to still sneak an at-large? Feels like nobody is talking about it. Beat UConn Saturday and make it to the BET finals. They'd be 21-14 having won ten of their last eleven, including wins over UConn, Creighton, at Xavier, and probably CU/Prov plus Xavier in the BET.

Not to mention the Justin Moore return as a nice "different team since" narrative.

[YoungMUFan4]

Isn't it convceivable for Nova to still sneak an at-large? Feels like nobody is talking about it. Beat UConn Saturday and make it to the BET finals. They'd be 21-14 having won ten of their last eleven, including wins over UConn, Creighton, at Xavier, and probably CU/Prov plus Xavier in the BET.

Not to mention the Justin Moore return as a nice "different team since" narrative.

They'd be close according to T-Rank if they make the BE Finals.  Factor in the Moore injury and you could see it happen.

https://barttorvik.com/teamcast.php?rank=69&team=Villanova&year=2023&bracket=1&La_SalleVillanova11-7=A&VillanovaTemple11-11=A&Delaware_St_Villanova11-14=A&VillanovaMichigan_St_11-18=A&Iowa_St_Villanova11-24=A&PortlandVillanova11-25=A&OregonVillanova11-27=A&OklahomaVillanova12-3=A&PennVillanova12-7=A&Boston_CollegeVillanova12-10=A&VillanovaSaint_Joseph_s12-17=A&St__John_sVillanova12-21=A&VillanovaConnecticut12-28=A&MarquetteVillanova12-31=A&VillanovaGeorgetown1-4=A&XavierVillanova1-7=A&VillanovaDePaul1-10=A&VillanovaButler1-13=A&GeorgetownVillanova1-16=A&VillanovaSt__John_s1-20=A&ProvidenceVillanova1-29=A&VillanovaMarquette2-1=A&VillanovaCreighton2-4=A&DePaulVillanova2-8=A&Seton_HallVillanova2-11=A&ButlerVillanova2-14=A&VillanovaProvidence2-18=A&VillanovaXavier2-21=A&CreightonVillanova2-25=A&VillanovaSeton_Hall2-28=A&ConnecticutVillanova3-4=W&x1_type=Post&x1_loc=N&x1_team=Georgetown&x1_res=W&x2_type=Post&x2_loc=N&x2_team=Providence&x2_res=W&x3_type=Post&x3_loc=N&x3_team=Xavier&x3_res=W&x4_type=Post&x4_loc=N&x4_team=Marquette&x4_res=L&x5_type=&x5_loc=&x5_team=&x5_res=

[Galway Eagle]

Texas is about to lose to TCU and get an 8th loss. Have to imagine that we've edged above them now right?

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Texas is about to lose to TCU and get an 8th loss. Have to imagine that we've edged above them now right?

Doubt it, they have some great wins

[Galway Eagle]

Doubt it, they have some great wins

Like Creighton and Baylor? Been there done that.

[PGsHeroes32]

Texas is about to lose to TCU and get an 8th loss. Have to imagine that we've edged above them now right?

Not yet. Lets hope Kansas beats em then we can open the convo

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Texas is about to lose to TCU and get an 8th loss. Have to imagine that we've edged above them now right?

Likely not even close. If I had to guess, they're probably 6th or 7th on the S-Curve now. We're likely 10th or 11th. Losing Q1 games on the road doesn't move you down on the S-curve and winning Q2/Q4 games doesn't move you up. Beating X at home and winning at Creighton isn't enough to move up 9 spots.

Not yet. Lets hope Kansas beats em then we can open the convo

Losing to an eventual 1 seed isn't going to harm their resume. Then the worst they could be in the B12 tournament is the 4 seed who will play the 5 seed, either TCU or Iowa State. Losing to either of them on a neutral court would be another Q1 loss, plus conference tourneys don't have the same impact that regular season games do.

I think Kansas State and Tennessee could theoretically knock Texas off the 2 line (assuming they don't knock off Baylor or one of the P12 teams instead). I don't think Marquette can do it because our last game is a Q3. I don't think that'll be enough even with a BET championship

[MarquetteMike1977]

Today Joe Lunardi has Marquette as the #9 Team in his S Curve

https://twitter.com/espnlunardi/status/1630946912940572673?s=46&t=CH7W9HhaS7-wyFcmnInM2g

[DoctorV]

If they lose 4x since the reveal, assuming a loss versus Kansas on Saturday and a loss in the conference tournament, and Marquette beats X, @Creighton and a few more nice wins on the way to a BE regular season title AND a BET Title you better believe Marquette is ahead of them.

That's a 23-10 or a 22-10 team resume compared to a 28-6 team resume, a team that won both the regular and conference tournament titles.
It's not like the Big East is some soft conference.

I get the Q1 wins and I get that the B12 is the cream of the crop and every team in that conference has a ton of Q1 wins, and that matter of course, but if it were the end all be all Kansas would be the runaway #1 overall seed because they've got something like 15Q1s, which might be an all-time record, and they were 4 in the reveal.

The thing that made the least sense to me during that reveal was rightfully packing the top 4 seed lines with B12 teams but then saying Kansas was the 4th one seed.
I mean come one, they've got an insane amount of Q1 wins.

Anyhow, if they beat Kansas it'll be a moot point, and if Marquette loses before Saturday at the Garden it likely will too, but the more I look at things the more I think to myself that Marquette might really surprise some folks with a 2 seed.

Numbers matter, always, but optics do as well. If Marquette is the clear best team in the Big East, which they are currently considered, and they show well in the Conference Tourney I'd be pretty surprised to see them on the 3 line.
The BE has 3 additional teams in the top 4ish lines so again, it's not like it's some pushover conference. Also, it's not like Marquette's metrics or numbers are what Providence's were last season.

Marquette should be rewarded and given a bump for its regular season success.

[Tyler COLEk]

Totally agree, DoctorV. I hope we get to see this scenario play out — I think MU will be a clear cut two seed if they win out. I even think they have a (very) narrow path if they roll UConn/Creighton but lose in the BET finals.

[muwarrior69]

Today Joe Lunardi has Marquette as the #9 Team in his S Curve

https://twitter.com/espnlunardi/status/1630946912940572673?s=46&t=CH7W9HhaS7-wyFcmnInM2g

Why does Lunardi have us as an automatic qualifier. Does he think will win the BET?

https://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/page/bracketology/ncaa-bracketology-projecting-2023-march-madness-men-field

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Why does Lunardi have us as an automatic qualifier. Does he think will win the BET?

https://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/page/bracketology/ncaa-bracketology-projecting-2023-march-madness-men-field

He automatically puts the current first place team in as the auto qualifier. Other bracketologists put the team with the highest NET/KenPom/Insert preferred metric here.

[willie warrior]

Isn't it convceivable for Nova to still sneak an at-large? Feels like nobody is talking about it. Beat UConn Saturday and make it to the BET finals. They'd be 21-14 having won ten of their last eleven, including wins over UConn, Creighton, at Xavier, and probably CU/Prov plus Xavier in the BET.

Not to mention the Justin Moore return as a nice "different team since" narrative.

Talk to Rico. They are not in the conversation, and thats his opinion that he will stick to.

[Uncle Rico]

Talk to Rico. They are not in the conversation, and thats his opinion that he will stick to.

They aren't

[Vander Blue Man Group]

Hoping TCU is playing its way into a 5 seed. If we end up a 3 I don't want to see them as the 6 in our region.

[MuggsyB]

Hoping TCU is playing its way into a 5 seed. If we end up a 3 I don't want to see them as the 6 in our region.

They look really good at times. 

[muwarrior69]

Hoping TCU is playing its way into a 5 seed. If we end up a 3 I don't want to see them as the 6 in our region.

C'mon guys. As a reformed COLE person this team has a chance to beat anyone.

[muwarrior69]

They look really good at times.

So do we.

[MUfan12]

Hoping TCU is playing its way into a 5 seed. If we end up a 3 I don't want to see them as the 6 in our region.

Tough defense but that offense is brutal to watch at times.

[MuggsyB]

So do we.

True.  And I'm not particularly concerned with a specific team and match-up frankly. Every team in the 32 rd, including the 1 seeds, can be taken down. 

[CountryRoads]

Obviously we want the highest seed possible generally speaking but if MU earned a 2, I don't think it'd be that ideal to get put out West and have UCLA/Arizona waiting as a 3. Though a S16 in Vegas would be cool, it's just not the most ideal. Would probably rather be in Louisville and play one of the PAC12 teams there as a 3, but I do understand there's a trade off with having slightly more difficult 1st and 2nd round games.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

C'mon guys. As a reformed COLE person this team has a chance to beat anyone.

Of course we can.  That doesn't mean you don't have preferences of who you might or might not want to play in that round. 

[PGsHeroes32]

Maybe we do want TCU.

Appears last night was their superbowl. Storming court against #9 when also ranked. And they let barstool guys into their lockerroom to celebrate after haha.

Wild.