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Author Topic: True Road Games in November  (Read 2846 times)

WithoutBias

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Re: True Road Games in November
« Reply #75 on: November 17, 2022, 02:12:48 PM »
Well said.  Wrightsill may not make much of an impact, but as I recall we pursued some other coveted 4-man transfers and didn't hit the winners circle.  Such is life in recruiting at times. 

My horizon to see how thing are going per Shaka's plan is how we finish in 2023-2024.  Assuming all the core guys stay (we are oversigned by 1) I expect we will have a Top 3 Big East team and what should be a team that is capable to advance to a Round of 32/Sweet 16.

I thought Shaka could win a living room and land recruits Steve had no shot at.  See each guy's performance at the podium, after all.

I do appreciate that after 7 years crying that Shaka is making excuses when he says the team was tired or young, suddenly saying our team is young is no longer an excuse it's just an explanation.  Weird.

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Re: True Road Games in November
« Reply #76 on: November 17, 2022, 03:42:42 PM »

My bar for Shaka is much, much higher than it was for Steve and I will judge him accordingly. One year and three games in I think Shaka is going the right direction, but still a lot of work to be done. It is 100% up to him to recruit the right guys and win basketball games, plain and simple. If we are stuck in quicksand in two years and 19-11 I will be the first to jump all over Shaka.

Yes. This.

Shaka is a proven coach who has accomplished things, and he has a winning personality. I simply expect more from him.

Of course, sometimes when one says that, a guy like Ners will say, "Yeah, but what about you giving Wojo a pass?" I admit that I wish I hadn't been so patient with Wojo (not that me being impatient would have changed anything).

But Wojo has nothing to do with Shaka. Our current coach has been a great recruiter and big winner. And if he fails to be a great recruiter at Marquette, and if that failure keeps him from being a big winner at Marquette, he'll deserve the blame.

I don't know why anybody wouldn't hold Shaka to a high standard. And especially after last season, I don't know why any Marquette fan wouldn't have high expectations for this season and next. So far, I think he's doing very well, and I don't think it's unrealistic to expect continued progress.

All I said was I don't really like to hear the guy in charge of roster construction blaming roster construction for any of our problems. It's like the guy in charge of cleaning windows looking up and saying, "We don't have enough light coming into the room because our windows are dirty."
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Re: True Road Games in November
« Reply #77 on: November 17, 2022, 04:01:50 PM »
Yes. This.

Shaka is a proven coach who has accomplished things, and he has a winning personality. I simply expect more from him.

Of course, sometimes when one says that, a guy like Ners will say, "Yeah, but what about you giving Wojo a pass?" I admit that I wish I hadn't been so patient with Wojo (not that me being impatient would have changed anything).

But Wojo has nothing to do with Shaka. Our current coach has been a great recruiter and big winner. And if he fails to be a great recruiter at Marquette, and if that failure keeps him from being a big winner at Marquette, he'll deserve the blame.

I don't know why anybody wouldn't hold Shaka to a high standard. And especially after last season, I don't know why any Marquette fan wouldn't have high expectations for this season and next. So far, I think he's doing very well, and I don't think it's unrealistic to expect continued progress.

All I said was I don't really like to hear the guy in charge of roster construction blaming roster construction for any of our problems. It's like the guy in charge of cleaning windows looking up and saying, "We don't have enough light coming into the room because our windows are dirty."

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Re: True Road Games in November
« Reply #78 on: November 17, 2022, 04:42:36 PM »
I thought Shaka could win a living room and land recruits Steve had no shot at.  See each guy's performance at the podium, after all.

I do appreciate that after 7 years crying that Shaka is making excuses when he says the team was tired or young, suddenly saying our team is young is no longer an excuse it's just an explanation.  Weird.

It is par for the course for you to back a loser like Wojo.  There is ZERO double standard comparing Shaka's quotes to Wojos.  Not sure why you'd try to hitch your wagon to a proven loser like Wojo, but you are one weird dude, Bias.  So.  There's that.

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Re: True Road Games in November
« Reply #79 on: November 17, 2022, 04:50:31 PM »
Yes. This.

Shaka is a proven coach who has accomplished things, and he has a winning personality. I simply expect more from him.

Of course, sometimes when one says that, a guy like Ners will say, "Yeah, but what about you giving Wojo a pass?" I admit that I wish I hadn't been so patient with Wojo (not that me being impatient would have changed anything).

But Wojo has nothing to do with Shaka. Our current coach has been a great recruiter and big winner. And if he fails to be a great recruiter at Marquette, and if that failure keeps him from being a big winner at Marquette, he'll deserve the blame.

I don't know why anybody wouldn't hold Shaka to a high standard. And especially after last season, I don't know why any Marquette fan wouldn't have high expectations for this season and next. So far, I think he's doing very well, and I don't think it's unrealistic to expect continued progress.

All I said was I don't really like to hear the guy in charge of roster construction blaming roster construction for any of our problems. It's like the guy in charge of cleaning windows looking up and saying, "We don't have enough light coming into the room because our windows are dirty."

Facepalm.  Shaka wasn't making excuses or blaming roster construction.  He simply stated a fact. The difference between those of us bullish on Shaka and the Projos is that Projos made excuses for incredibly obvious subpar coaching. 

If you think Shaka making the NCAA Year 1, and us losing at Purdue, at a venue they haven't lost in since 2019,  in a game that we led for 34 of 40 minutes, in Year 2 - commenting that young guys are in roles they've never been in - is a "problem" or parallels anything like the blame game played during the Steve Wojo years - I've got some oceanfront property to sell you in Kansas.

Context.  Context. Context. 

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Re: True Road Games in November
« Reply #80 on: November 17, 2022, 05:00:31 PM »
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Re: True Road Games in November
« Reply #81 on: November 17, 2022, 05:10:01 PM »
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Of course Shaka should be held to higher standards than previous coaches. His job is to represent the university in a first class manner, and more importantly, win basketball games in March. I am not a five year guy and I stated the day Shaka was hired I was going to judge him starting day one.

To date, I think he has done a very good job and the bar gets higher every year. Now, I am surprised with the lack of going after higher rated recruits, but if he can find a way to win in March with zero star recruits that is fine by me.

It simply comes down to winning for this fan and I believe Shaka has a plan in place to win at MU. Imo, he is awfully confident in the plan he has in place and that gives me optimism for the future.

« Last Edit: November 17, 2022, 05:17:50 PM by Goose »

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Re: True Road Games in November
« Reply #82 on: November 17, 2022, 05:10:18 PM »
It is par for the course for you to back a loser like Wojo.  There is ZERO double standard comparing Shaka's quotes to Wojos.  Not sure why you'd try to hitch your wagon to a proven loser like Wojo, but you are one weird dude, Bias.  So.  There's that.
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Re: True Road Games in November
« Reply #83 on: November 17, 2022, 05:15:39 PM »
So much hate

Annoyance (with silly arguments from Projos) 

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Re: True Road Games in November
« Reply #84 on: November 17, 2022, 05:20:21 PM »
Facepalm.  Shaka wasn't making excuses or blaming roster construction.  He simply stated a fact. The difference between those of us bullish on Shaka and the Projos is that Projos made excuses for incredibly obvious subpar coaching. 

If you think Shaka making the NCAA Year 1, and us losing at Purdue, at a venue they haven't lost in since 2019,  in a game that we led for 34 of 40 minutes, in Year 2 - commenting that young guys are in roles they've never been in - is a "problem" or parallels anything like the blame game played during the Steve Wojo years - I've got some oceanfront property to sell you in Kansas.

Context.  Context. Context.

we ignoring that they lost there in 2021?

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/game/_/gameId/401263407

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Re: True Road Games in November
« Reply #85 on: November 17, 2022, 05:26:12 PM »
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Re: True Road Games in November
« Reply #86 on: November 17, 2022, 07:27:30 PM »
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« Reply #87 on: November 17, 2022, 07:43:51 PM »
Annoyance (with silly arguments from Projos)
No just hate, your hate permeates.
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« Reply #88 on: November 17, 2022, 07:47:40 PM »
we ignoring that they lost there in 2021?

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/game/_/gameId/401263407

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Re: True Road Games in November
« Reply #89 on: November 17, 2022, 08:12:05 PM »
Facepalm.  Shaka wasn't making excuses or blaming roster construction.  He simply stated a fact. The difference between those of us bullish on Shaka and the Projos is that Projos made excuses for incredibly obvious subpar coaching. 

If you think Shaka making the NCAA Year 1, and us losing at Purdue, at a venue they haven't lost in since 2019,  in a game that we led for 34 of 40 minutes, in Year 2 - commenting that young guys are in roles they've never been in - is a "problem" or parallels anything like the blame game played during the Steve Wojo years - I've got some oceanfront property to sell you in Kansas.

Context.  Context. Context.

You’re the one who keeps bringing up Wojo.

I mean do the rest of us constantly remind you that you thought Magic Dawson was going to be a star, or that you thought he was better than Andrew Rowsey?

Fact is that you and I are pretty much on the same page re Shaka. We’re both excited he’s our coach and think he’s doing a great job. I just don’t think he walks on water.
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Re: True Road Games in November
« Reply #90 on: November 17, 2022, 08:14:34 PM »
You’re the one who keeps bringing up Wojo.

I mean do the rest of us constantly remind you that you thought Magic Dawson was going to be a star, or that you thought he was better than Andrew Rowsey?

Fact is that you and I are pretty much on the same page re Shaka. We’re both excited he’s our coach and think he’s doing a great job. I just don’t think he walks on water.
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Re: True Road Games in November
« Reply #91 on: November 17, 2022, 08:22:18 PM »
we ignoring that they lost there in 2021?

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/game/_/gameId/401263407

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Doesn’t fit his agenda.

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Re: True Road Games in November
« Reply #92 on: November 17, 2022, 10:06:25 PM »
No just hate, your hate permeates.

Lame.

Well he is Elon Musk the guy who has never created a thing and takes credit while just stealing companies. Just made the biggest mistake of his life.

Lamer.

Doesn’t fit his agenda.

Lamest.


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Re: True Road Games in November
« Reply #93 on: November 17, 2022, 10:12:09 PM »
Lame.

Lamer.

Lamest.
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Re: True Road Games in November
« Reply #94 on: November 17, 2022, 10:30:40 PM »
You know who doesn’t make excuses?

Rick Pitino

Except when he comes home late from Porcini’s.

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Re: True Road Games in November
« Reply #95 on: November 18, 2022, 04:53:36 AM »
Except when he comes home late from Porcini’s.

His book is a good read, "7 Seconds of Fame".

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« Reply #96 on: November 18, 2022, 06:12:14 AM »
Except when he comes home late from Porcini’s.

What he does with other consenting adults is his business.  Championships are forever
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Re: True Road Games in November
« Reply #97 on: November 22, 2022, 01:26:56 PM »
MU has now lost nine straight games away from Milwaukee. Whether it's November, February, or March, now the time is to end it before that streak hits double digits.

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« Reply #98 on: November 22, 2022, 01:29:51 PM »
Or never leave Milwaukee.
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« Reply #99 on: November 22, 2022, 01:44:12 PM »
MU has now lost nine straight games away from Milwaukee. Whether it's November, February, or March, now the time is to end it before that streak hits double digits.

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