2022-23 NCAA Men's Basketball Thread

[Hards Alumni]

IMO, the top 12 teams are pretty well locked in at this point.  Probably 16.

[MU82]

From the Raleigh News-Observer:

The Tar Heels have no one to blame but themselves. They had four starters back from the team that made the national final in 2022, they were the preseason AP No. 1 in all of America and now they aren't even going to make the field?!

That's not only disappointing, it's historically unprecedented. A preseason No. 1 hasn't missed the tournament since the field expanded to 64 teams in 1985.

"I guess we really weren't that good," UNC's Armando Bacot said in a disconsolate locker room at the Greensboro Coliseum.

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

From the Raleigh News-Observer:

The Tar Heels have no one to blame but themselves. They had four starters back from the team that made the national final in 2022, they were the preseason AP No. 1 in all of America and now they aren't even going to make the field?!

That's not only disappointing, it's historically unprecedented. A preseason No. 1 hasn't missed the tournament since the field expanded to 64 teams in 1985.

"I guess we really weren't that good," UNC's Armando Bacot said in a disconsolate locker room at the Greensboro Coliseum.

I for one won't miss them.
Is Hubie's head on the chopping block for missing NCAAs?

[MU82]

Impressive stat: Somehow, UNC managed only one Q1 win all season!

[muwarrior69]

Impressive stat: Somehow, UNC managed only one Q1 win all season!

I think UNC fans would say unimpressive, but point taken.

[Hards Alumni]

I for one won't miss them.
Is Hubie's head on the chopping block for missing NCAAs?

Not after last year, but the fans and admin won't forget.

He is for sure the Reverse COY though.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

TAMU,

Does the seeding always follow the S-Curve exactly?  I would be very surprised Baylor could be ahead of us if we win tonight.  As for Purdue ?  They have looked vulnerable and lost a lot of games down the stretch.  Most brackets have them as a #2 right now and if they lose today there is no chance they'll be a number 1.   I don't see them falling past a #2 but there are still two spots available.

Always/Exactly? No. There can be weird instances where scheduling conflicts and other NCAAT rules force a team a spot lower or higher on the S-Curve. But as Brew wrote about recently, that actually benefits Purdue. UCLA may not be able to be a 1 seed because of a combination of scheduling issues and that may results in Purdue getting the 1 even if UCLA passes them on the S-Curve.

But outside those, yes, they follow the S-Curve when determining seeds. I think there are actually 0 2-seeds available at this point. However, let's go ahead and win the BET and hope for an Arizona loss so we can test that theoy.

[GoldenEagles03]

Thats a T at MSG

https://twitter.com/theCBBstories/status/1634250399556280320?t=APH5N2uokVfAkcuRwQTL0w&s=19

[wisblue]

Always/Exactly? No. There can be weird instances where scheduling conflicts and other NCAAT rules force a team a spot lower or higher on the S-Curve. But as Brew wrote about recently, that actually benefits Purdue. UCLA may not be able to be a 1 seed because of a combination of scheduling issues and that may results in Purdue getting the 1 even if UCLA passes them on the S-Curve.

But outside those, yes, they follow the S-Curve when determining seeds. I think there are actually 0 2-seeds available at this point. However, let's go ahead and win the BET and hope for an Arizona loss so we can test that theoy.

Just to be clear, I think the SEEDING almost always follows the Seed List exactly. That is, the top 4 teams on the Seed List are the 1 seeds, numbers 5-8 are the 2 seeds, and so forth.

But, as far as placement in the bracket, the S Curve does not follow the seed list exactly. In other words, it is not a given that number 5 on the seed list will be in the same region as number 4 or that number 8 will be in the same region as number 1. Those placements are affected by geographic considerations (trying to keep teams as close to home as possible) and conference considerations (keeping teams from the same conference from meeting too early in the tournament or having top 4 seeds from the same conference from being in the same region)  That's just another reason why being number 8 or number 9 on the seed list makes very little difference in terms of a more favorable draw. The main difference is the "bragging right" of saying "we're a 2 seed".

This season is going to present a number of placement challenges because the Big 12 is likely to have 4 teams in the top 4 seeds and those teams will have to be in different regions. Same for the 3 teams from the Big East that seem to be headed for top 4 seeds.

The video on the NCAA site describing placing teams in the bracket for a hypothetical tournament really highlights the challenges.

Here is a link to the site that includes that video:

https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2023-03-09/how-field-68-di-mens-teams-picked-march-madness-each-season

[mugrad_89]

Purdue may be the worst team I've ever seen in terms of handling full court pressure.

[NickelDimer]

These big 10 refs giving Purdue alllll the calls. Yikes. Makes me feel better about BE refs

[WhiteTrash]

Not after last year, but the fans and admin won't forget.

He is for sure the Reverse COY though.

Is Davis UNC's version of Kevin Ollie at UCONN? Riding the tailwinds of the HoF coach to a good NCAA run and exposed as time moves on?

[JWags85]

Is Davis UNC's version of Kevin Ollie at UCONN? Riding the tailwinds of the HoF coach to a good NCAA run and exposed as time moves on?

I don't know if Davis will be successful, but I don't think so.  Davis spent 5-6 years as one of the lead CBB analysts at ESPN, he watched and studied CBB full time.  Then he spent a decade as an assistant under Roy Williams.  Assisting on A LOT of great teams.

Meanwhile, Ollie spent only 2 years there as Calhoun was on the way out due to health reasons, then got the gig.  The experience levels and duration are wildly different.

[JWags85]

Haven't watched a ton of Duke this year, but Filipowski is REALLY damn good. Beyond smooth for his size

[Hards Alumni]

I don't know if Davis will be successful, but I don't think so.  Davis spent 5-6 years as one of the lead CBB analysts at ESPN, he watched and studied CBB full time.  Then he spent a decade as an assistant under Roy Williams.  Assisting on A LOT of great teams.

Meanwhile, Ollie spent only 2 years there as Calhoun was on the way out due to health reasons, then got the gig.  The experience levels and duration are wildly different.

Hey man, a lot of guys spend a decade plus as an assistant.

[JWags85]

Hey man, a lot of guys spend a decade plus as an assistant.

Oh it wasn't meant to be an endorsement of Davis or that he's gonna be successful at UNC, just highlighting the differences between him and Ollie.

[Hards Alumni]

Oh it wasn't meant to be an endorsement of Davis or that he's gonna be successful at UNC, just highlighting the differences between him and Ollie.

It was a joke.

Wojo spent over a decade as an assistant. 

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Bill Walton is high again on the call

[MuggsyB]

Set your DVR's.  It's conceivable Crean and Wojo will be doing Marquette highlights in a few mins. 

[mugrad_89]

Set your DVR's.  It's conceivable Crean and Wojo will be doing Marquette highlights in a few mins.

Just saw it - Crean did all the talking and was very complimentary.  Would've loved to have seen Wojo's demeanor during the clips.

[MuggsyB]

Crean with an MU mention as a potential #2 seed.  ESPN doesn't show either the score or the highlights of the MU/UCONN game. Cowardly and unprepared network. Wojo is unwatchable and gutwrenchingly poor as an analyst.  He sounds like he's reading a teleprompter and kind of like he's a grade school kid that was called to the front of the class. 

[PointWarrior]

Purdue is still a 1 seed likely, nowhere close to a 3 seed. Baylor and Arizona are the bottom 2s. Gonzaga may be ahead of us now

F' that Purdue is a 1 seed...

[shoothoops]

Vanderbilt had been searching for signs of life after some early season injuries and adversity. Liam Robbins got healthy. And, few things are Better Than Ezra at the end of a game. They're not too sure and not too proud to say it was good.

https://twitter.com/sec/status/1627152128279027713?s=46&t=SHiXWVBi3M_pBBF1SMJoAg

Searching for signs of life. Few things Better Than Ezra right now. 25 more points. Doing it without their best player too. Have won 10 of 11. 13 SEC wins. Memorial Magic, 2 miles down the road.

They get another chance today vs Buzz.

[MuggsyB]

Higher seed?

MU in the NCAA tournament vs Wisky's NIT seed?

[MuggsyB]

This is a very entertaining A-10 Final.