2022-23 NCAA Men's Basketball Thread

[HutchwasClutch]

Gard is also no one's guy in Madison except the guy who's long gone from that program. 

[MuggsyB]

They won the Big Ten last year. If Chryst had done the same, he wouldn't have been fired.

Fluffy, I respectfully disagree.  I'm not arguing he should be fired but who really knows what McIntosh is thinking? 

[The Sultan]

Gard is also no one's guy in Madison except the guy who's long gone from that program. 

That's not actually not entirely accurate. A lot of $$ that supported Bo now supports Gard. Are they grumbling? Will they force a change? I guess we will see.

[HutchwasClutch]

Fluffy, I respectfully disagree.  I'm not arguing he should be fired but who really knows what McIntosh is thinking?

I hate admitting this, but Ryan and Bennett elevated that program to where they're much better than settling for Gard.  They certainly would be able to hire someone better than him, especially as a recruiter.

Hope McIntosh is consumed with Fickell and building football back though. 

[HutchwasClutch]

That's not actually not entirely accurate. A lot of $$ that supported Bo now supports Gard. Are they grumbling? Will they force a change? I guess we will see.

It's completely accurate.  No AD or anyone connected still to UW hired Gard. 

And there's grumbling.

[MuggsyB]

I hate admitting this, but Ryan and Bennett elevated that program to where they're much better than settling for Gard.  They certainly would be able to hire someone better than him, especially as a recruiter.

Hope McIntosh is consumed with Fickell and building football back though. 

He and the delusional rodent fan base probably think they can get Jay Wright or Billy Donovan. 

[HutchwasClutch]

He and the delusional rodent fan base probably think they can get Jay Wright or Billy Donovan.

They are insufferable. 

[The Sultan]

It's completely accurate.  No AD or anyone connected still to UW hired Gard. 

And there's grumbling.

No its not accurate.  Believe me, the money that supported Bo is still supporting Gard.  If you think looking internally to the athletic department is all that matters, that is an extremely narrow point of view. When I see UW play, I still can name three or four boosters right behind his bench. If they threaten to pull their support, McIntosh will consider a change. But I don't think they are at that point yet. Next year without improvement? I can see it.  But I don't see it this year.

[Elonsmusk]

No its not accurate.  Believe me, the money that supported Bo is still supporting Gard.  If you think looking internally to the athletic department is all that matters, that is an extremely narrow point of view. When I see UW play, I still can name three or four boosters right behind his bench. If they threaten to pull their support, McIntosh will consider a change. But I don't think they are at that point yet. Next year without improvement? I can see it.  But I don't see it this year.

Are you one of those three or four boosters?  Scale of 1-10, how big of Badger fan are you Fluffy?  Were you at The Mecca tailgate?

[The Sultan]

Are you one of those three or four boosters?  Scale of 1-10, how big of Badger fan are you Fluffy?  Were you at The Mecca tailgate?

No. 1. No.

[4everwarriors]

Easy, peasy...McIntosh didant higher Gard.
Adios m'fer and da horse ya road inn on, hey?

[rocket surgeon]

let's see how this NIL thingy plays out in b-ball...reading stories of these athletes coming in with demands for money and placement of friends and family into grad schools etc.  sounding more and more like free agents??  ncaa gonna need to get control of this juggernaut before it really get's out of control.  i used to joke about schools exceeding the salary cap

here's what's happening in football-i can only assume b-ball is going thru similar, but with fewer players needed, i could see some eye-popping numbers coming

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/alabamas-nick-saban-rejected-2-players-searching-1-3-million-combined-nil-money-report

[willie warrior]

Easy, peasy...McIntosh didant higher Gard.
Adios m'fer and da horse ya road inn on, hey?

That would be the green horse he rode in on.

[lawdog77]

He and the delusional rodent fan base probably think they can get Jay Wright or Billy Donovan.

or Shaka

[PointWarrior]

He and the delusional rodent fan base probably think they can get Jay Wright or Billy Donovan.

You do know that they can get Tony Bennett at anytime they want?

And how long before we hear "Shaka's from Madison, he wants to coach in the Big 10"

They are delusional, and getting Fickell will make the Walmart Badgers even more delusional. 

[HutchwasClutch]

Huge UWM comeback and road win yesterday.  Quietly putting together a very solid and surprising season.  Lundy can really coach apparently, happy for him. 

[Newsdreams]

Huge UWM comeback and road win yesterday.  Quietly putting together a very solid and surprising season.  Lundy can really coach apparently, happy for him.

You mean UWMKE

[Newsdreams]

let's see how this NIL thingy plays out in b-ball...reading stories of these athletes coming in with demands for money and placement of friends and family into grad schools etc.  sounding more and more like free agents??  ncaa gonna need to get control of this juggernaut before it really get's out of control.  i used to joke about schools exceeding the salary cap

here's what's happening in football-i can only assume b-ball is going thru similar, but with fewer players needed, i could see some eye-popping numbers coming

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/alabamas-nick-saban-rejected-2-players-searching-1-3-million-combined-nil-money-report

Friends and family to grad school? Wasn't there a court case about this recently......

[Newsdreams]

or Shaka

Deep inside sources, they already reaching to him....

[rocket surgeon]

Friends and family to grad school? Wasn't there a court case about this recently......

  good question.  we will probably be hearing more and more about how the "student-athletes" test the system.   

calling scott boras?

[MU82]

NYTimes Magazine's cover story is about NIL. It mostly talks about how a relatively small number of athletes earning a ton of $$$ threatens the ability of athletic departments to fund all programs.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/24/magazine/ncaa-nba-student-athlete.html?campaign_id=9&emc=edit_nn_20230129&instance_id=83979&nl=the-morning&regi_id=108420427&segment_id=123846&te=1&user_id=d36dcf821462fdd16ec3636710a855fa

The article was very interesting IMHO. Still, I've always been for compensating the young people who make college sports possible, and nothing in that article has changed my mind. And as a capitalist, I support each individual's right to earn as much, legally, as he or she can. If a wide receiver or point guard's NIL deals indirectly end up causing the elimination of a school's swimming program, well, nobody said life is fair. And nobody is asking the head football and/or basketball coach to give up any of his or her millions in salary and endorsements to help fund field hockey.

[The Sultan]

Oh give me a break Bubba Cunningham. He's been overseeing Carolina athletics for over a decade. He has gotten personally wealthy and handed out contracts that have made coaches wealthy as well. He has secured millions of dollars for various infrastructure projects benefitting athletics. And now he is fretting because they may need to drop a couple sports because Armando Bacot is driving a new car and has $500,000 in NIL deals? 

The entire system was based on misaligned resources because some of the people who provided value (the players) were not allowed to earn what the market dictated they earn.  Furthermore, Bubba has been active in NCAA governance for YEARS. Anyone with a brain could see where this was going. The NCAA could have figured this out long ago, but they largely ignored it. He was part of that.

[MU82]

Oh give me a break Bubba Cunningham. He's been overseeing Carolina athletics for over a decade. He has gotten personally wealthy and handed out contracts that have made coaches wealthy as well. He has secured millions of dollars for various infrastructure projects benefitting athletics. And now he is fretting because they may need to drop a couple sports because Armando Bacot is driving a new car and has $500,000 in NIL deals? 

The entire system was based on misaligned resources because some of the people who provided value (the players) were not allowed to earn what the market dictated they earn.  Furthermore, Bubba has been active in NCAA governance for YEARS. Anyone with a brain could see where this was going. The NCAA could have figured this out long ago, but they largely ignored it. He was part of that.

That was my reaction to Bubba's crocodile tears, too.

Hard to feel sorry for an AD whose department funneled athletes into fake classes for years so guys like him could stuff their pockets with cash.

[PointWarrior]

Deep inside sources, they already reaching to him....

Probably should start rooting for Badger victories so Gard can keep his job. 

[pbiflyer]

Who would want the badger job that is high level? Would the fan base accept a new system? Could someone recruit the athletes required for a new system to Wisconsin? Would the fan base accept a more colorful team?