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lawdog77

Quote from: panda on November 21, 2022, 07:22:51 PM
Rules so benign that there is an ncaa official on record saying this in regards to Sampson and his calls - "We don't even care about that anymore," they said. "We aren't even wasting our time and resources with it." So much so that the rules, in fact, are likely to change this year. There will almost certainly be more communication permitted between coaches and recruits, potentially even unlimited calls, and the NCAA is also set to allow text messaging in the recruiting process.

So yea he broke the rules and deserves to be punished. But he absolutely deserved a second  third chance and shouldn't be labeled amongst some of his other less respectable colleagues.
I don't think its about the initial violation. It was when he was put on a ban of phone calls to recruits, and he had coaches make the calls from his house, as well as being on conference calls with recruits. That shows his character.

JWags85

Emoni Bates' EMU team is terrible and they do a ton of "get it to Emoni and watch", but you can clearly see the talent and that he will still be a first round pick.  He's electric in bursts and has such a quick release from deep.

wadesworld

Quote from: JWags85 on November 22, 2022, 01:40:49 PM
Emoni Bates' EMU team is terrible and they do a ton of "get it to Emoni and watch", but you can clearly see the talent and that he will still be a first round pick.  He's electric in bursts and has such a quick release from deep.

Not the type of player we want here, though.

tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Billy Hoyle

Chaminade would be more competitive in Maui than Louisville is.
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: lawdog77 on November 22, 2022, 05:13:55 AM
I don't think its about the initial violation. It was when he was put on a ban of phone calls to recruits, and he had coaches make the calls from his house, as well as being on conference calls with recruits. That shows his character.

Exactly. He not only violated the rules knowingly but egregiously. Over 600 impermissible calls.

Then, at Indiana, Sampson violated his call restrictions by having his assistants patch him in on three-way calls or having him in the room and putting the calls on the speaker. He also told recruits what he was doing and told them not to disclose this to anyone.

Committing a violation is one thing, even to the level he did. But, the lack of ethics and morals to brazenly circumvent his punishment and ask high school kids to cover for him takes his scumbaggary to another level.
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

The Sultan

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on November 22, 2022, 02:41:00 PM
Exactly. He not only violated the rules knowingly but egregiously. Over 600 impermissible calls.

Then, at Indiana, Sampson violated his call restrictions by having his assistants patch him in on three-way calls or having him in the room and putting the calls on the speaker. He also told recruits what he was doing and told them not to disclose this to anyone.

Committing a violation is one thing, even to the level he did. But, the lack of ethics and morals to brazenly circumvent his punishment and ask high school kids to cover for him takes his scumbaggary to another level.


"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Jockey

Louisville has 15 pts. With 13 minutes left in the game.

Billy Hoyle

"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

Uncle Rico

Marquette should have hired Kelvin Sampson in '14
Guster is for Lovers

panda

Quote from: Uncle Rico on November 22, 2022, 04:22:08 PM
Marquette should have hired Kelvin Sampson in '14

We couldn't afford the phone bills

The Sultan

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on November 22, 2022, 03:03:48 PM
what did I say that was incorrect?


Being outraged over something so minor is dumb.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Johnny B

louisville has its worst team in fan memory according to their board. just bad beyond what ever could have been possibly imangined.

WhiteTrash

Quote from: Johnny B on November 22, 2022, 06:02:10 PM
louisville has its worst team in fan memory according to their board. just bad beyond what ever could have been possibly imangined.
9 page thread on the UofL board about firing the coach.

Fans can be crazy but I think the Card fans may be right.

Juan Anderson's Mixtape

Quote from: WhiteTrash on November 22, 2022, 06:24:25 PM
9 page thread on the UofL board about firing the coach.

Fans can be crazy but I think the Card fans may be right.

Five games to judge.

GoldenEagles03

#190
Quote from: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on November 22, 2022, 06:32:36 PM
Five games to judge.

They may legitimately start 0-10.

Their schedule gets no easier.
VIOLENCE!

MuggsyB

Two good games on ESPN.  Hopefully Creighton wins the Maui tournament. 

lawdog77

Creighton may have the best starting 5 in the country.

wadesworld


MuggsyB

Creighton has been very impressive thus far. 

lawdog77

Quote from: wadesworld on November 22, 2022, 07:27:08 PM
No.
The only one that might be close is UNC, IMO. I would argue Creighton's starting 5 is more complete. Creighton's bench doesn't have much.

MuggsyB

Scratch that:  they were impressive until the last 1:30 of the half.  Lost focus. 

nyg

#197
Arkansas has a nice composition of players.  Two top 25 recruits in Black and Walsh, two top 50 recruits in the Mitchell twins transfers, two top 100 guys and two transfers from quality Div I teams.  And, Nick Smith the number 2 recruit in country. That's how you do it. 

MuggsyB

Quote from: nyg on November 22, 2022, 07:56:29 PM
Arkansas has a nice composition of players.  Two top 25 recruits in Black and Walsh, two top 50 recruits in the Mitchell twins transfers, two top 100 guys and two transfers from quality Div I teams.  That's how you do it.

Two good and dangerous teams.  One of the Ark kids got his head near the rim on a thunderous alley o.

GoldenEagles03

Quote from: MuggsyB on November 22, 2022, 08:01:20 PM
Two good and dangerous teams.  One of the Ark kids got his head near the rim on a thunderous alley o.

Creighton has no contribution from their bench.  That will bite them eventually as the season wears if that doesn't change.
VIOLENCE!

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