2022-23 NCAA Men's Basketball Thread

[MuggsyB]

Creighton has no contribution from their bench.  That will bite them eventually as the season wears if that doesn't change.

Arkansas is way more physical and are pounding them a bit.  Teams with more physicality are able to establish this early in the year abd get away with more contact. 

[wadesworld]

The only one that might be close is UNC, IMO. I would argue Creighton's starting 5 is more complete. Creighton's bench doesn't have much.

I'd take more than a handful of teams' starting lineups over Creighton's. Including Arkansas when Nick Smith comes back. For sure UNC, Houston, and Texas. Illinois, Virginia, and Gonzaga at least on par.

[MuggsyB]

Creighton has spurtability.  I've discussed the importance of this trait ad nauseum for about a decade.  We had it for 1/2 of last season. 

[BCHoopster]

I do not know nationally how they will do, but right now by far the best team in the Big East

[MU82]

Very entertaining game.

Bonus: Muss has been going nuts.

[MU82]

I'd take more than a handful of teams' starting lineups over Creighton's. Including Arkansas when Nick Smith comes back. For sure UNC, Houston, and Texas. Illinois, Virginia, and Gonzaga at least on par.

For me it goes Houston, UNC, Marquette, Arkansas, Creighton.

[PointWarrior]

Either of the teams will pound the Shaka's....  Can Marquette stay within 20 of Creighton? 

[GoldenEagles03]

I'd take more than a handful of teams' starting lineups over Creighton's. Including Arkansas when Nick Smith comes back. For sure UNC, Houston, and Texas. Illinois, Virginia, and Gonzaga at least on par.

Texas beat Arkansas by 30 in their charity game.

[lawdog77]

I'd take more than a handful of teams' starting lineups over Creighton's. Including Arkansas when Nick Smith comes back. For sure UNC, Houston, and Texas. Illinois, Virginia, and Gonzaga at least on par.

It's debatable, but I think Houston and Texas dont have enough scoring from their starting 5 compared to Creighton. Granted, their defense is better.

[panda]

Don't sleep on Arizona

[nyg]

Don't forget. MU will be in the Maui Classic next year with Gonzaga, Kansas, UCLA, Purdue, Syracuse and Tennessee.

Maybe Shaka will get some high level recruits in before.  Oh wait, MU roster full....
Wonder if he used the Maui trip as a recruiting tool.  That is a brutal field of teams.

[Newsdreams]

Sooo much COLE and MOPE, life is good.

[MuggsyB]

Don't forget. MU will be in the Maui Classic next year with Gonzaga, Kansas, UCLA, Purdue, Syracuse and Tennessee.

Maybe Shaka will get some high level recruits in before.  Oh wait, MU roster full....
Wonder if he used the Maui trip as a recruiting tool.  That is a brutal field of teams.

That's a  formidable field......damn. 

[BCHoopster]

That's a  formidable field......damn.

MU and Purdue will be the 2 worst teams, maybe Shaka can persuade a big to come to MU and cut someone.

[GoldenEagles03]

MU and Purdue will be the 2 worst teams, maybe Shaka can persuade a big to come to MU and cut someone.

We know who will be on Marquette next year.  That's one positive we have that most of those teams maybe don't.

[JWags85]

It's early in the year, but I don't know how there are 13 teams better than Zona.

[wadesworld]

It's early in the year, but I don't know how there are 13 teams better than Zona.

And people thought I was crazy for wanting Tommy Lloyd.

[Billy Hoyle]

Being outraged over something so minor is dumb.

No, it was the coverup and asking kids to lie. Glad to know you think that's all good.

[The Sultan]

No, it was the coverup and asking kids to lie. Glad to know you think that's all good.

Small lies to cover up minor actions that are no longer against the rules. Who cares?

[MUDPT]

Small lies to cover up minor actions that are no longer against the rules. Who cares?

There are two sides on this. I personally know one of the recruits he called, whose name showed up on the NCAA report. There were a few days where he and his family thought his eligibility was in question at a different university. Putting 18 year olds through that stress while violating rules is something that should be taken seriously.

[The Sultan]

There are two sides on this. I personally know one of the recruits he called, whose name showed up on the NCAA report. There were a few days where he and his family thought his eligibility was in question at a different university. Putting 18 year olds through that stress while violating rules is something that should be taken seriously.

The rules were dumb. 15 years later I'm not taking it seriously.

[lawdog77]

The rules were dumb. 15 years later I'm not taking it seriously.

Its not about the specific rule that he broke, it's the fact that he was on a ban from the NCAA, which he knew of, and he continued to engage in that behavior.

To me it would be similar to:

Sultan gets pulled over driving without insurance. License suspended for 6 months. During that 6 months, you continue to drive every day, and are pulled over again. License suspended for 5 years. It's not about the driving without insurance, its about knowing you are not to be driving, and continue to do it. Shows one's character.

[The Sultan]

Its not about the specific rule that he broke, it's the fact that he was on a ban from the NCAA, which he knew of, and he continued to engage in that behavior.

To me it would be similar to:

Sultan gets pulled over driving without insurance. License suspended for 6 months. During that 6 months, you continue to drive every day, and are pulled over again. License suspended for 5 years. It's not about the driving without insurance, its about knowing you are not to be driving, and continue to do it. Shows one's character.

That's actually a great analogy.  Driving without insurance should not result in a six month license suspension. A dumb rule that I wouldn't care if someone broke. It has no bearing on anyone's character.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Its not about the specific rule that he broke, it's the fact that he was on a ban from the NCAA, which he knew of, and he continued to engage in that behavior.

To me it would be similar to:

Sultan gets pulled over driving without insurance. License suspended for 6 months. During that 6 months, you continue to drive every day, and are pulled over again. License suspended for 5 years. It's not about the driving without insurance, its about knowing you are not to be driving, and continue to do it. Shows one's character.

Sure, but would you really not hire the best candidate in your hiring pool if you found out that they did the above 15 years ago and have had a clean record since?

[lawdog77]

That's actually a great analogy.  Driving without insurance should not result in a six month license suspension. A dumb rule that I wouldn't care if someone broke. It has no bearing on anyone's character.

I guess we will agree to disagree. I believe it sure does have a bearing on someone's character if they were convicted, and have certain parameters in their sentence, and they knowingly break them to cheat.