2022-23 NCAA Men's Basketball Thread

[We R Final Four]

Purdue isnt a real title threat IMO.

Seeing the season age and they just aren't that good.

Edey and a lot of nothing else.

Luckily for them the Big Ten isn't good either.

Yes....Purdue looks very bad.

[wadesworld]

Based on the comments here I thought I'd check the score and Purdue would be down 15+. Instead I see they're winning on the road against a team that beat us wire to wire at our place with their best player missing half the game.

[MuggsyB]

Based on the comments here I thought I'd check the score and Purdue would be down 15+. Instead I see they're winning on the road against a team that beat us wire to wire at our place with their best player missing half the game.

Wade,

That game was about 3 months ago and Hepburn played out of his ass.  The fact is Purdue has been mediocre for about a month and Edey isn't getting any help at all from the rest of his team or Painter. 

[BM1090]

Wade,

That game was about 3 months ago and Hepburn played out of his ass.  The fact is Purdue has been mediocre for about a month and Edey isn't getting any help at all from the rest of his team or Painter.

Hepburn only played half the game.

Agree with the Purdue portion of your post.

[Jay Bee]

Hepburn only played half the game.

Agree with the Purdue portion of your post.

If by only half the game you mean 26 minutes

[StillAWarrior]

If by only half the game you mean 26 minutes

Well, that is six minutes below his average. 

[Scoop Snoop]

Wade,

That game was about 3 months ago and Hepburn played out of his ass.  The fact is Purdue has been mediocre for about a month and Edey isn't getting any help at all from the rest of his team or Painter.

Not sure what you meant regarding getting no help from Painter, but Purdue was unimpressive last night. Too bad they did not play like that when we were in W. Lafayette.

[StillAWarrior]

We all know that if Antoine Davis would have broken the scoring record last night, it would have come with one of the biggest asterisks ever for a sports record. A great accomplishment, to be sure, but with a huge asterisk.

How much more worse will it be if Detroit actually pays $50,000 to participate in the CBI to get Davis another game? Hopefully they won't get the invite...but I suspect that they will.

[CountryRoads]

We all know that if Antoine Davis would have broken the scoring record last night, it would have come with one of the biggest asterisks ever for a sports record. A great accomplishment, to be sure, but with a huge asterisk.

How much more worse will it be if Detroit actually pays $50,000 to participate in the CBI to get Davis another game? Hopefully they won't get the invite...but I suspect that they will.

I watched the last 10 minutes of the game and came away really unimpressed. That just seemed like such a garbage team where one player just chucked shots. Detroit was pretty terrible in his 5 years there so it wasn't a winning formula anyway. I'd think they'd just want to end the season and move forward. They will be better off.

[pbiflyer]

We all know that if Antoine Davis would have broken the scoring record last night, it would have come with one of the biggest asterisks ever for a sports record. A great accomplishment, to be sure, but with a huge asterisk.

How much more worse will it be if Detroit actually pays $50,000 to participate in the CBI to get Davis another game? Hopefully they won't get the invite...but I suspect that they will.

I think CBI has already announced their intentions to do this.

[StillAWarrior]

I'd think they'd just want to end the season and move forward. They will be better off.

You'd think. But I can't see a kid (and his father/coach) walking away from the chance to be the NCAA D1 all-time leading scorer. I just can't imagine that will happen. And I can't imagine the CBI is going to walk away from the unprecedented opportunity to actually have press coverage of one its games. I suspect Detroit will get the invite and they'll play. Honestly, he'd be crazy not to. I would think that over the course of his lifetime being the all-time D1 points leader would generate more income than the $50k that it will cost to play.

I think CBI has already announced their intentions to do this.

I hadn't seen that, but obviously, I'm not surprised.

[tower912]

I think Bruce Pearl was unhappy with the officiating if his game.   Fun little post game interview.

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I watched the last 10 minutes of the game and came away really unimpressed. That just seemed like such a garbage team where one player just chucked shots. Detroit was pretty terrible in his 5 years there so it wasn't a winning formula anyway. I'd think they'd just want to end the season and move forward. They will be better off.

To be fair, Pistol Pete averaged over 38 field goal attempts per game and shot about 44% during his college career.  We'd probably consider him a chucker. 

Unless someone beats his record in a three-season period, there's always going to be at least a hypothetical asterisk on the record.  I say let Davis have his moment in the CBI.  Detroit Mercy will be moving on from him either way. 

[The Sultan]

I watched the last 10 minutes of the game and came away really unimpressed. That just seemed like such a garbage team where one player just chucked shots. Detroit was pretty terrible in his 5 years there so it wasn't a winning formula anyway. I'd think they'd just want to end the season and move forward. They will be better off.

Outside of their NIT run where Marquette beat them in the Garden, LSU wasn't very good when Maravich was around too.

To be fair, Pistol Pete averaged over 38 field goal attempts per game and shot about 44% during his college career.  We'd probably consider him a chucker.

Probably? We have Scoopers who call Marquette's all time leading scorer a chucker and the most he averaged was just over 19 shots a game.

[Hards Alumni]

To be fair, Pistol Pete averaged over 38 field goal attempts per game and shot about 44% during his college career.  We'd probably consider him a chucker. 

Unless someone beats his record in a three-season period, there's always going to be at least a hypothetical asterisk on the record.  I say let Davis have his moment in the CBI.  Detroit Mercy will be moving on from him either way.

And to be fair, Pistol got his record without ever making a single three point bucket.

[wisblue]

To be fair, Pistol Pete averaged over 38 field goal attempts per game and shot about 44% during his college career.  We'd probably consider him a chucker. 

Unless someone beats his record in a three-season period, there's always going to be at least a hypothetical asterisk on the record.  I say let Davis have his moment in the CBI.  Detroit Mercy will be moving on from him either way.

He absolutely was a chucker, but he did it with such flair that he was fun to watch.

Knee injuries hampered his pro career, but he earned his spot as a basketball hall of famer.

Another thing to remember about his college career is that there was no shot clock so teams that were so inclined could slow the game down and limit possessions. I don't think a shot clock would have affected LSU's offense much.

[brewcity77]

Purdue doesn't look like the same team that they were earlier in the season.

I wonder how much is not being the same team and how much is overvaluing what they did early. They blasted Duke & Gonzaga in Portland, but neither of those have looked like the top-10 teams they were then for most of this year. They did great in the B10, but that's a very middle heavy league. In league play, the only projected single digit seeds they've beaten are Maryland and Iowa, both at home. They're good, but maybe great was always an overapproximation.

[GoldenEagles03]

I wonder how much is not being the same team and how much is overvaluing what they did early. They blasted Duke & Gonzaga in Portland, but neither of those have looked like the top-10 teams they were then for most of this year. They did great in the B10, but that's a very middle heavy league. In league play, the only projected single digit seeds they've beaten are Maryland and Iowa, both at home. They're good, but maybe great was always an overapproximation.

Starting to look more and more like Marquette let a game slip away that they really SHOULD have won.

Oh well!

[Strokin 3s]

And to be fair, Pistol got his record without ever making a single three point bucket.

Right....I think I heard on a broadcast last night that they went back and analyzed his shot distance and he would've average like 13 3's a game.

[BM1090]

If by only half the game you mean 26 minutes

21/40 in regulation is what I was referring to. A bit more since the game went to OT.

[withoutbias]

Starting to look more and more like Marquette let a game slip away that they really SHOULD have won.

Oh well!

Not really.  If you look at the win probability, it had Marquette with over a 50% chance for just 7 and a half minutes of the game.  Purdue had over a 50% chance to win the game for 32 and a half minutes.  Both teams' largest lead was 9.  Purdue shot better from the field, from 3, turned it over less, and made more free throws than Marquette attempted.  We were on the road against a team that, even after they look "awful" (if you read Scoop) is still ranked 6 in KenPom, 5th in Torvik, and 5th in NET, higher than Marquette in all 3.

[mugrad_89]

Not really.  If you look at the win probability, it had Marquette with over a 50% chance for just 7 and a half minutes of the game.  Purdue had over a 50% chance to win the game for 32 and a half minutes.  Both teams' largest lead was 9.  Purdue shot better from the field, from 3, turned it over less, and made more free throws than Marquette attempted.  We were on the road against a team that, even after they look "awful" (if you read Scoop) is still ranked 6 in KenPom, 5th in Torvik, and 5th in NET, higher than Marquette in all 3.

Agreed - their freshman are wearing down, which is why they aren't the same team as when we played them earlier in the season.  The only thing I wish we had done differently was use more full court pressure, as they have shown they are not good at dealing with it.

[tower912]

Careful.  Saying that freshmen are wearing down is admitting Dodds might be right about something.

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We all know that if Antoine Davis would have broken the scoring record last night, it would have come with one of the biggest asterisks ever for a sports record. A great accomplishment, to be sure, but with a huge asterisk.

How much more worse will it be if Detroit actually pays $50,000 to participate in the CBI to get Davis another game? Hopefully they won't get the invite...but I suspect that they will.

Then again, Pistol Pete played in a segregated SEC, so we could probably throw an asterisk on his record, too. 

[WhiteTrash]

Then again, Pistol Pete played in a segregated SEC, so we could probably throw an asterisk on his record, too.

I would agree.

Then again, Pistol Pete played prior to the three point shot, so we could probably take the asterisk off he record too.