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tower912

You and I remember Budapest very differently.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: tower912 on September 10, 2024, 04:38:13 PM
You and I remember Budapest very differently.

Steph Curry turnover rate his 3 seasons:

FR: 17.3
SOPH: 14.3
JR: 16.1

Markus turnover rate his 3 seasons:

FR: 20.5
SOPH: 15.7
JR: 18.4
SR: 15.2
Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

Lennys Tap

#6377
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 10, 2024, 05:00:03 PM
Steph Curry turnover rate his 3 seasons:

FR: 17.3
SOPH: 14.3
JR: 16.1

Markus turnover rate his 3 seasons:

FR: 20.5
SOPH: 15.7
JR: 18.4
SR: 15.2

My numbers per basketball reference:

TOV %: FR Markus 17.4 Steph 13.8
          SOPH.          13.0         11.3
            JR.             15.7         13.5

ASST % FR              19.9.         N/A
             SO              18.4.        N/A
             JR.             27.3.        40.2

Only used there first 3 college years as Steph was in the NBA in what would have been his senior season. Don't know why BR doesn't have Assist % numbers but the numbers that they do have shows he handled it (your numbers agree) and passed it much better than Markus. What happened between Tower and Markus in Budapest is anyone's guess.


tower912

Curry was marginally better in the Southern Conference than Howard was in the Big East, from a turnover perspective. 

Clearly, Howard should have shot more.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: tower912 on September 10, 2024, 06:29:43 PM
Curry was marginally better in the Southern Conference than Howard was in the Big East, from a turnover perspective. 

Clearly, Howard should have shot more.

Correct.  No one will ever confuse Markus for Steph. 

However, as far as handles, in college, they were fairly similar.
Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: tower912 on September 10, 2024, 06:29:43 PM
Curry was marginally better in the Southern Conference than Howard was in the Big East, from a turnover perspective. 


20.7% better, 13.1% better and 14.0% better. With a 50% better ASST%.

Marginally? LOL

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on September 10, 2024, 06:53:17 PM
nm

Steph's JR. season assist rate was 40%, it was 18% his SOPH year.

Markus SR. season assist rate was 27%.

Steph is and was better than Markus.  Markus was a two-time All-American and one of the great Marquette players of all-time.  Both things can be true.  Really not a big story here
Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 10, 2024, 06:56:58 PM
Steph's JR. season assist rate was 40%, it was 18% his SOPH year.

Markus SR. season assist rate was 27%.

Steph is and was better than Markus.  Markus was a two-time All-American and one of the great Marquette players of all-time.  Both things can be true.  Really not a big story here

I agree. The only story here was the false one that with a bit more height Markus = Steph. It was BS and I called it out. You do that once in a while. a'ina?

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Lennys Tap on September 10, 2024, 07:36:24 PM
I agree. The only story here was the false one that with a bit more height Markus = Steph. It was BS and I called it out. You do that once in a while. a'ina?

If he was 6' 4", he would absolutely be in the NBA
Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

tower912

I do not accept your premise.   Who knows what being 5 inches taller would have done if he had the same shooting ability?

I know, you have to lash out at somebody.   There, there, get it all out.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: tower912 on September 10, 2024, 07:43:50 PM
I do not accept your premise.   Who knows what being 5 inches taller would have done if he had the same shooting ability?

I know, you have to lash out at somebody.   There, there, get it all out.

lol.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 10, 2024, 07:43:14 PM
If he was 6' 4", he would absolutely be in the NBA

Sure, but there's a big difference between between being in the NBA and being Steph Curry.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: tower912 on September 10, 2024, 07:43:50 PM
I do not accept your premise.   Who knows what being 5 inches taller would have done if he had the same shooting ability?

I know, you have to lash out at somebody.   There, there, get it all out.

I couldn't care less whether r not you accept my premise. Your position is still dumb. So is trying to characterize me pointing out the obvious as "lashing out". LOL

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Lennys Tap on September 10, 2024, 08:08:25 PM
Sure, but there's a big difference between between being in the NBA and being Steph Curry.

Nah, you just hate Markus even though he's one of the great Marquette players and alum of all time
Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

tower912

Lenny, you have always disliked and continue to tear down the all time leading MU scorer, the all time leading Big East scorer, a two time all American.    To the point that when I praise him, you stalk the post and lash out.    This isn't new.   It is 5 years on.   There is no logical reason to continue this lashing out crusade, no reason to not move on.   Do you, man, but let me ask you for one thing. 

Spell it out.   Be specific.   
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Holy hell all time

5'8" or 6'4", doesn't matter to me. Hang 0 in the Fiserv rafters ASAP. Should've just raised the framed jersey straight to the rafters on his Senior Day, to be honest.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 10, 2024, 08:13:24 PM
Nah, you just hate Markus even though he's one of the great Marquette players and alum of all time

Stick to the Anders Carlson update. Only factual stuff you've shared since you got your computer back.

Jay Bee

REJOICE! Eric Dixon has been suspended!!

tower912

Quote from: Jay Bee on September 10, 2024, 08:28:30 PM
Markus saved our program

You rightly called Markus to the NBA when he reclassified and committed to MU.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: tower912 on September 10, 2024, 08:21:29 PM
Lenny, you have always disliked and continue to tear down the all time leading MU scorer, the all time leading Big East scorer, a two time all American.    To the point that when I praise him, you stalk the post and lash out.    This isn't new.   It is 5 years on.   There is no logical reason to continue this lashing out crusade, no reason to not move on.   Do you, man, but let me ask you for one thing. 

Spell it out.   Be specific.

Tower, not only have I not "always disliked Markus", I've always actually liked him, been a fan. Great representative of the university, great scorer, exciting player - if they decide to raise his jersey in the rafters I might disagree slightly but wouldn't lodge much of a complaint. But I'm not (unlike you and others) a fanboy. He had limitations defensively and the ball was in his hands far too much. I never blamed him for the latter and was quick to point out he was doing exactly what his coach (a very poor one) wanted him to do.

So you continue to do you. Be a fanboy, exaggerate the player he was. But get a grip and stop with the nonsense about him being a slightly shorter version of Steph Curry. That's crazy. So is you accusing me of "lashing out" just because of a mild difference of opinion.

tower912

#6396
Lol
Two time All American
All time leading scorer at MU
All time leading scorer in the Big East

Hell, yes, I am a fan.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Lennys Tap on September 10, 2024, 08:48:28 PM
Tower, not only have I not "always disliked Markus", I've always actually liked him, been a fan. Great representative of the university, great scorer, exciting player - if they decide to raise his jersey in the rafters I might disagree slightly but wouldn't lodge much of a complaint. But I'm not (unlike you and others) a fanboy. He had limitations defensively and the ball was in his hands far too much. I never blamed him for the latter and was quick to point out he was doing exactly what his coach (a very poor one) wanted him to do.

So you continue to do you. Be a fanboy, exaggerate the player he was. But get a grip and stop with the nonsense about him being a slightly shorter version of Steph Curry. That's crazy. So is you accusing me of "lashing out" just because of a mild difference of opinion.

lol
Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

Herman Cain

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