Big East 2024 Offseason

[MuggsyB]

Nova is also a team that won at Creighton and took UConn to the last minute.

They are going to be tough for MU to beat next week, especially if they can figure out a way to keep MU from getting 20 or 30 uncontested layups and dunks.

Ya.....how exactly are they different than every other team  projected 4-9 in the BEast Blue? 

[Galway Eagle]

Ya.....how exactly are they different than every other team  projected 4-9 in the BEast Blue?

They have three guys who were on a Final Four team. Till they're gone I'm not counting them out of being able to pull off big wins... in spite of Neptune.

[wisblue]

Ya.....how exactly are they different than every other team  projected 4-9 in the BEast Blue?

I would say 2-9 instead of 4-9.

Maybe they aren’t much different than some of the other BE teams that have been and will be tough for MU to beat. St. John’s is apparently just a bad match up for them.

They must have some redeeming qualities for Ken Pom to project them with a 51% chance of beating MU next week and to finish 11-9 in the BE, just one game behind MU.

[MuggsyB]

They have three guys who were on a Final Four team. Till they're gone I'm not counting them out of being able to pull off big wins... in spite of Neptune.

I think everyone in the BEast can pull off some big wins minus DePaul and Gtown.

[MUfan12]

I think everyone in the BEast can pull off some big wins minus DePaul and Gtown.

DePaul is gonna get someone now that they have a competent coach.

[Shooter McGavin]

DePaul is gonna get someone now that they have a competent coach.

Yep.

[Herman Cain]

Johnnies getting good press with Pitino in charge

https://nypost.com/2024/01/25/sports/st-johns-provides-another-big-glimpse-of-what-they-can-be/

[Newsdreams]

"He’s got some soreness going on with his body," Holloway said of Richmond, declining to specify where. "I found out he wasn’t going to play at the shootaround. I don’t know the timetable (for a return). I don’t know too much; he’s got some soreness going on.”

JFB like

[Herman Cain]

https://nypost.com/2024/01/22/sports/shaheen-holloways-seton-hall-turnaround-has-come-out-of-nowhere/

[Herman Cain]

Mr Cooley returning to Providence . Hoyas keeping it close.

[Johnny B]

Watching this butler nova game. Just can’t over that loss ugh so bad lol, trying to write it off as fluke but damn

[MU82]

Watching this butler nova game. Just can’t over that loss ugh so bad lol, trying to write it off as fluke but damn

Kentucky lost at home to UNC-Wilmington. Madison got beat by a dreadful Penn State team. Northwestern lost at home to probably the worst college basketball program of the past several decades.

It's sports.

[MuggsyB]

Kentucky lost at home to UNC-Wilmington. Madison got beat by a dreadful Penn State team. Northwestern lost at home to probably the worst college basketball program of the past several decades.

It's sports.

Is my phone wrong or did Butler lose to Villanova?

[DoctorV]

Butler wins in double OT.

I’ve had a feeling that Villanova might not dance this year, and I’m more confident now that they might implode.

New coach gonna be gone in a few years

[MuggsyB]

Butler wins in double OT.

I’ve had a feeling that Villanova might not dance this year, and I’m more confident now that they might implode.

New coach gonna be gone in a few years

But according to some people here "they have Final 4 experience" and "are a different team that lost to Drexel and Penn and St.Joe's".  Now, that doesn't mean they can't beat us or anyone in the BEast Dr. V.  They nearly beat UCONN and beat UNC.  But this idea that they're different/better than any of the 2-9 teams in the league is total nonsense.

[Herman Cain]

Butler wins in double OT.

I’ve had a feeling that Villanova might not dance this year, and I’m more confident now that they might implode.

New coach gonna be gone in a few years

Matta getting the most out of The Bulldogs .

[Scoop Snoop]

Butler wins in double OT.

I’ve had a feeling that Villanova might not dance this year, and I’m more confident now that they might implode.

New coach gonna be gone in a few years

I think "New coach gonna be gone" before that.

They look so different from the finely tuned team that Jay created. Nova always looked cool, calm, and in control no matter what. I get that every coach needs to create his own systems, offense and defense, but saving what was good from your predecessor shows wisdom. And that's what Neptune lacks. He inherited talent, but wisdom is not inherited.

I like our chances in Philly.

[Galway Eagle]

But according to some people here "they have Final 4 experience" and "are a different team that lost to Drexel and Penn and St.Joe's".  Now, that doesn't mean they can't beat us or anyone in the BEast Dr. V.  They nearly beat UCONN and beat UNC.  But this idea that they're different/better than any of the 2-9 teams in the league is total nonsense.

They do have final experience that's fact not opinion, it's your opinion that that doesn't hold any weight

They beat UNC, Texas Tech, and Memphis, and Creighton. That sets them apart from all the middle of the pack teams.

[wisblue]

Is my phone wrong or did Butler lose to Villanova?

They won a home game in 2 OT. Your point?

[MuggsyB]

They do have final experience that's fact not opinion, it's your opinion that that doesn't hold any weight

They beat UNC, Texas Tech, and Memphis, and Creighton. That sets them apart from all the middle of the pack teams.

Do we just completely neglect that they're 11-9 and not take into account their losses?  And it was mentioned numerous times that they're a different team than they were at the beginning of the year and Moore was out.  As far as the Creighton win in particular that was very similar to our loss vs Butler.   Creighton literally could not make an open shot.  I think it's extremely difficult to argue that they've distinguished themselves from the projected middle of the pack teams in our league. 

[MuggsyB]

They won a home game in 2 OT. Your point?

My point is you're grasping at straws with respect to how good Nova is relative to the rest of the teams in our league minus DePaul and Gtown.  They are who they are.  Wildly inconsistent with a coach many think is marginal at best.  And I also heard they blew a comfortable lead at Hinkle. 

[DoctorV]

Muggsy I think they have plenty of talent, but are just extremely poorly coached.

I couldn’t believe my eyes in the first 10 minutes of Marquettes game against them when MU went to the hoop time after time for a layup and dunk clinic.

Our guys were coming off of SEVERAL consecutive brutal shooting games and had a lot of problems, and it was almost as if Neptune had no idea.
His squad came out pressuring the ball miles away from the hoop and got burned.

I think it really helped Marquette tbh. Kolek has been much better as a distributor since that game.

[CountryRoads]

Muggsy I think they have plenty of talent, but are just extremely poorly coached.

I couldn’t believe my eyes in the first 10 minutes of Marquettes game against them when MU went to the hoop time after time for a layup and dunk clinic.

Our guys were coming off of SEVERAL consecutive brutal shooting games and had a lot of problems, and it was almost as if Neptune had no idea.
His squad came out pressuring the ball miles away from the hoop and got burned.

I think it really helped Marquette tbh. Kolek has been much better as a distributor since that game.

Neptune is a good guy but in way over his head, imo. I’d like to see Nova get burned on that hire because he doesn’t have the resume to have deserved that job. Didn’t Jay Wright have a lot of influence in that hire?

[Goose]

Muggsy

Based on a good number of wusblue’s posts, I am not sure he is very bullish on MU and appears bullish on other BE teams. From my perspective, being water boarded by Fluff would be more enjoyable than debating blue.

[Herman Cain]

Blue Jays with Solid win over Blue Demons on Pink Out Day in Omaha.

Seems like the Blue Demons have had a little more energy the last few games coming out of the gate.