Big East 2024 Offseason

[Dickthedribbler]

Would anyone object to DePaul and Gtown being dismissed from the BEast?

DePaul and Georgetown.

[bilsu]

Okay.....but should we have concerns about our NET?

We have the power to make Georgetown and Depaul look better. All we have to do is lose to them.

[The Lens]

Sometimes it's nice to have a team or two to beat up on.

[brewcity77]

Beat them by the amount we are supposed to and no, not at all.

This is correct. In the RPI era it maybe mattered, but now as long as you handle them like your cupcakes, you're fine. If you don't, you probably weren't as good as you thought you were.

To reinforce this, check this post from after we beat Georgetown by 28 on the road on Shaka's first season:

Big East NET rankings as of games of January 7,2022
New Old
8   8   Villanova   
15   16   UConn   
20   20   Xavier   
26   26   Seton Hall   
33   34   Providence   
45   55   Marquette   
58   65   Creighton   
97   98   DePaul   
105   104   St. John's
146   141   Butler
190   157  Georgetown

We jumped up because we took care of business. And honestly, having some games you can without 100% focus in a long season is probably a good thing.

I also think it helps the middle of the league. The Big 12 has a number of top-30, 40, & 50 teams that get left out because their records just aren't good enough for inclusion. If you're in that 40-50 range in the Big East and go 11-9 in league, even if it's 7-9 against the decent teams and 4 wins are against those bottom feeders, it's probably good enough whereas 7-11 or 8-10 in the Big 12 often isn't.

[MU82]

Here's a nice little story I just saw on Yahoo Sports:

Former Ohio State star Aaron Craft will spend the next month working at an Indianapolis hospital as he pursues his medical degree. With his family in Columbus, he's moved in with his former coach, Thad Matta, now at Butler.

Matta: "I think that's the way it's supposed to be. Because when I recruit kids I tell them, 'This is not a four-year deal, this is a lifetime deal.' … I'll do whatever I can for those guys."

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[mugrad_89]

Here's a nice little story I just saw on Yahoo Sports:

Former Ohio State star Aaron Craft will spend the next month working at an Indianapolis hospital as he pursues his medical degree. With his family in Columbus, he's moved in with his former coach, Thad Matta, now at Butler.

Matta: "I think that's the way it's supposed to be. Because when I recruit kids I tell them, 'This is not a four-year deal, this is a lifetime deal.' … I'll do whatever I can for those guys."

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Very cool gesture on Matta’s part.

[Eye]

Agreed on not wanting 11 of the top whatever in the league. 8 or 9 certainly fine, but want to have a Harry or two (Pitino term) to get a relative breather here and there in league play. The alternative would be the old CUSA days, where you'd play somebody good, look at the schedule and go "We play somebody good again in 3 weeks."
 

[cheebs09]

Looks like the Georgetown rebuild is off to kind of a slow start.

Ed seems to be a little stressed.

https://x.com/RutgersRivals/status/1725004880815816873?s=20

[Galway Eagle]

Ed seems to be a little stressed.

https://x.com/RutgersRivals/status/1725004880815816873?s=20

Jeeze, have to wonder if he's having some second thoughts about moving programs. He could've been the all time great at Providence with very little effort.

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

It's just inexperience: eight available scholarship players, five walk-ons, and three players with any significant college play under their collective belts. Mr. Ewing left an empty cupboard.

Compare this to Shaka bringing in Darryl Morsell and Kur Kuath his first year.  Shaka established his culture from day one, made the tourney his first year, won the BE and BET in his second year, and has a national championship contender in his third year.  Really underrated moves by Shaka that are paying longterm dividends.

It doesn't look like Cooley is changing Georgetown's culture as quickly.  I think Cooley will eventually get Georgetown to the same level he had Providence, but it is going to take time.  Probably 3-4 years.

[Jay Bee]

Here's a nice little story I just saw on Yahoo Sports:

Former Ohio State star Aaron Craft will spend the next month working at an Indianapolis hospital as he pursues his medical degree. With his family in Columbus, he's moved in with his former coach, Thad Matta, now at Butler.

Matta: "I think that's the way it's supposed to be. Because when I recruit kids I tell them, 'This is not a four-year deal, this is a lifetime deal.' … I'll do whatever I can for those guys."

Craft might be his nurse hey

[MU82]

Ed seems to be a little stressed.

https://x.com/RutgersRivals/status/1725004880815816873?s=20

No context here - were there no questions? were there only a few questions asked by older reporters while college and/or younger reporters just sat there? did somebody tick off cooley by asking question he didn't consider "great"?

Context aside, though, it actually was excellent advice from Cooley.

[The Lens]

 :-Xb

No context here - were there no questions? were there only a few questions asked by older reporters while college and/or younger reporters just sat there? did somebody tick off cooley by asking question he didn't consider "great"?

Context aside, though, it actually was excellent advice from Cooley.

I saw a number of NYC centric reporters (Jerry Carino, Jaden Daly) support Cooley’s message.  They thought he was trying to help the younger journalists. 

Seeing this as Ed has regrets is trying to speak your chosen narrative into existence.  Ed will be just fine at Georgetown. 

[Herman Cain]

No context here - were there no questions? were there only a few questions asked by older reporters while college and/or younger reporters just sat there? did somebody tick off cooley by asking question he didn't consider "great"?

Context aside, though, it actually was excellent advice from Cooley.

Here is the actual press conference . Most of the questions were actually softball and coming from student writers . Context was  Mr.Cooley was just giving advice in his blustery tone.

Mr Cooley endorsed Rutgers Coach and Fans.. Kind of interesting that One of Mr. Cooleys guards admitted to playing selfish and  poorly.

https://youtu.be/B6av6gsLaUE?si=d7WwYlBhvrErio6U

[BM1090]

Ed seems to be a little stressed.

https://x.com/RutgersRivals/status/1725004880815816873?s=20

Thought this was totally fine, but not sure what preceded that statement.

[MUbiz]

Apparently one of Cooley's assistants flipped off the student section as well: https://twitter.com/matt_mooch/status/1724978648648740895

[Herman Cain]

Thought this was totally fine, but not sure what preceded that statement.

Here is the actual press conference . Most of the questions were actually softball and coming from student writers . Context was  Mr.Cooley was just giving advice in his blustery tone.

Mr Cooley endorsed Rutgers Coach and Fans.. Kind of interesting that One of Mr. Cooleys guards admitted to playing selfish and  poorly.

https://youtu.be/B6av6gsLaUE?si=d7WwYlBhvrErio6U

Reposted with link to Mr Cooley Press Conference

[PGsHeroes32]

First real look at SJU and they look shaky vs North Texas. Can definitely see the talent if they can start to gel as the season goes on though.

Another positive is while they look pretty sloppy they are not nearly as out of control chaotic as they were every year under Anderson. Dont have to worry nearly as much about them making a game borderline unwatchable with unorganized full speed pick up ball.

[MUbiz]

First real look at SJU and they look shaky vs North Texas. Can definitely see the talent if they can start to gel as the season goes on though.

Another positive is while they look pretty sloppy they are not nearly as out of control chaotic as they were every year under Anderson. Dont have to worry nearly as much about them making a game borderline unwatchable with unorganized full speed pick up ball.

I do miss having Andre Curbelo in the BE though.

[warriorchick]

If you have followed the Twitter rant of "Joseph" from Villanova, you will enjoy this.  Watch to the end.

https://twitter.com/GmingClipz/status/1724922566253437435

[bilsu]

Compare this to Shaka bringing in Darryl Morsell and Kur Kuath his first year.  Shaka established his culture from day one, made the tourney his first year, won the BE and BET in his second year, and has a national championship contender in his third year.  Really underrated moves by Shaka that are paying longterm dividends.

It doesn't look like Cooley is changing Georgetown's culture as quickly.  I think Cooley will eventually get Georgetown to the same level he had Providence, but it is going to take time.  Probably 3-4 years.

Based on ESPN's rankings, Georgetown has landed the 60th, 71st and 75Th ranked recruits in the 2024 class.
MU best recruit in this class is ranked 77th. In three years Georgetown might be better than MU.

[MUbiz]

If you have followed the Twitter rant of "Joseph" from Villanova, you will enjoy this.  Watch to the end.

https://twitter.com/GmingClipz/status/1724922566253437435

Haha, that's great. That kid has taken a beating on twitter.

[wadesworld]

Based on ESPN's rankings, Georgetown has landed the 60th, 71st and 75Th ranked recruits in the 2024 class.
MU best recruit in this class is ranked 77th. In three years Georgetown might be better than MU.

I've learned not to worry too much about recruiting rankings with Shaka as our coach.  It took me one recruiting cycle, but Shaka's got an eye for talent that is a touch better than ESPN's recruiting analysts, if they even have any left on their payroll.  Kolek's recruiting ranking doesn't seem to be holding him back.

[The Lens]

I’m no Wojo fan but Justin Lewis, Oso, Kam & Stevie are pretty nice pieces to inherit.  Plus the MU infrastructure is light years ahead of Georgetown.  What was our lowest attendance average under Wojo?  13,000? 

[MUbiz]

I've learned not to worry too much about recruiting rankings with Shaka as our coach.  It took me one recruiting cycle, but Shaka's got an eye for talent that is a touch better than ESPN's recruiting analysts, if they even have any left on their payroll.  Kolek's recruiting ranking doesn't seem to be holding him back.

This. There have been as many "sure things" that have failed as "they weren't recruited heavily" that have succeeded in college basketball. Shaka recruits "the Marquette guys" that fit his system and style of play, and it works amazingly well.