Big East 2024 Offseason

[Uncle Rico]

Matta was a great hire on paper, but starting to wonder how well that will work out for them. Looking like 3 straight 20+ point losses to start the year.

At least he’s not losing close games

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Matta was a great hire on paper, but starting to wonder how well that will work out for them. Looking like 3 straight 20+ point losses to start the year.

I mean the cupboard was barren. Like Marquette in 2014-15 barren.

They’ll be fine.

[We R Final Four]

Matta was a great hire on paper, but starting to wonder how well that will work out for them. Looking like 3 straight 20+ point losses to start the year.

Is this his 1st year as HC?

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

Is this his 1st year as HC?

For Butler, yes.

[DFW HOYA]

Georgetown shoots 62% in the first half...and trails by seven.

Georgetown 40
DePaul 47
Halftime

[panda]

Yeah. Matta’s a really good coach and Butler invests in its program. They’ll be solid.

My only concern from a butler fans standpoint would be whether or not they can recruit at the highest level. They succeeded early on getting local guys to buy into the butler way, but they need to elevate their recruiting profile to compete year in year out in the BE.

I think Matta brings that dynamic recruiting opportunity but it’ll take a couple seasons. 

[DoctorV]

My only concern from a butler fans standpoint would be whether or not they can recruit at the highest level. They succeeded early on getting local guys to buy into the butler way, but they need to elevate their recruiting profile to compete year in year out in the BE.

I think Matta brings that dynamic recruiting opportunity but it’ll take a couple seasons.

Some over in Milwaukee are starting to think recruiting no Matta, just coach em up!

[wadesworld]

My only concern from a butler fans standpoint would be whether or not they can recruit at the highest level. They succeeded early on getting local guys to buy into the butler way, but they need to elevate their recruiting profile to compete year in year out in the BE.

I think Matta brings that dynamic recruiting opportunity but it’ll take a couple seasons.

I think the biggest concern is that the Big East has had a major upgrade in overall coaching over the last few years. Obviously Jay Wright is a huge loss. But Matta, Shaka, and Miller are all big time coaches. I think Xavier and Marquette are better programs than Butler, and I think Nova is big enough that Neptune will have some success there. So getting towards the top of the Big East will be tough with those guys plus Cooley, McDermott, and Hurley.

[panda]

I think the biggest concern is that the Big East has had a major upgrade in overall coaching over the last few years. Obviously Jay Wright is a huge loss. But Matta, Shaka, and Miller are all big time coaches. I think Xavier and Marquette are better programs than Butler, and I think Nova is big enough that Neptune will have some success there. So getting towards the top of the Big East will be tough with those guys plus Cooley, McDermott, and Hurley.

Agreed - I hope butler can figure it out though. They’re a good program to have humming. Solid fan base and I love watching a game at hinkel.

[Herman Cain]

Solid win for Cooley & Company. Going to 11-3 is a good thing . If The Friars pick up a big win against The Blue Demons on Sunday they will get closer to breaking into the top 25.

[lawdog77]

Agreed - I hope butler can figure it out though. They’re a good program to have humming. Solid fan base and I love watching a game at hinkel.

Somebody has to be at the bottom of the league. Better them than us.

[DFW HOYA]

Stop me if you've heard this before: Georgetown leads by three, loses by seven.

Ewing goes 0 for 2022.

[We R Final Four]

Stop me if you've heard this before: Georgetown leads by three, loses by seven.

Ewing goes 0 for 2022.

I have never seen a bench sooooo disinterested in my whole life. That is not an exaggeration. So much. Ole boy had ro yell at his teammates when he cut the lead to 3 late.
It was if the other team had scored. Wow.

[JWags85]

My only concern from a butler fans standpoint would be whether or not they can recruit at the highest level. They succeeded early on getting local guys to buy into the butler way, but they need to elevate their recruiting profile to compete year in year out in the BE.

I think Matta brings that dynamic recruiting opportunity but it’ll take a couple seasons.

He turned OSU from a sub .500 team to a team that win 26 games and the B10 in 2 seasons.  And that was after only 4 seasons as a HC at Butler and Xavier so he wasn’t a known commodity.  I don’t think he’ll need all that long to be respectable.

He also brought in Mike Pegues who was Mack’s lead recruiter at X and Ville

[MU82]

At least he’s not losing close games

Ha!

[We R Final Four]

For Butler, yes.

I know…….can’t believe they haven’t fired him in same calendar year he was hired.

[🏀]

Stop me if you've heard this before: Georgetown leads by three, loses by seven.

Ewing goes 0 for 2022.

I poured a little out for you during the last minute that took forever. Godspeed.

[Herman Cain]

Stop me if you've heard this before: Georgetown leads by three, loses by seven.

Ewing goes 0 for 2022.

According to this article The buyout of Ewing contract is still very large

Patrick may be coaching the team for quite a while unless someone comes up with the funding to buy his contract out

https://hilltophoops.substack.com/p/patrick-ewing-contract-extension-details

[DFW HOYA]

The coaches of Georgetown's three largest sports by budget are all under water for 2022:

Patrick Ewing (Men's Basketball): 5-29
Rob Sgarlata (Football): 2-9, 10 straight losses at home over last two seasons
James Howard (Women's Basketball): 12-20

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Bigger Peak to Trough?

Marquette - Al McGuire years to Bob Dukiet years, or

Georgetown - John Thompson years to Patrick Ewing years?

[Ellenson Guerrero]

Bigger Peak to Trough?

Marquette - Al McGuire years to Bob Dukiet years, or

Georgetown - George Thompson years to Patrick Ewing years?

GT is the bigger vertical drop, but MU was more dramatic because it happened in a shorter period of time.

[Uncle Rico]

Bigger Peak to Trough?

Marquette - Al McGuire years to Bob Dukiet years, or

Georgetown - George Thompson years to Patrick Ewing years?

Tony…

[JWags85]

GT is the bigger vertical drop, but MU was more dramatic because it happened in a shorter period of time.

Agreed, Marquette in less than 10 years went from a coaching icon with multiple FFs and a natty to hiring a low major coach who didn’t even have an NCAA appearance, didn’t even win an NIT game in 2 appearances, and who went 31-26 the previous 2 seasons.  Results were unsurprising in retrospect.

But man the GT drop is profound. The Esherick era isn’t super dissimilar to Hank’s tenure, a bit worse at the end.  But JT3 righted the ship.  For 90% of programs his tenure would have been a massive success. But Ewing makes Dukiet look like Al.  Less than 15 wins in 2 years COMBINED, probably more like 12, is shocking

[Dr. Blackheart]

Georgetown - George Thompson years to Patrick Ewing years?

Both George and John are turning over in their graves

[StillAWarrior]

Both George and John are turning over in their graves

That took a couple hours longer than I thought it would. lol