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tower912

#8700
Clearly, Hurley doesn't know what he is doing. Uses the portal too much/not enough.  Doesn't have/relies too much on a system.  Ruined Karaban.  Not enough/too many one and dones.   Can't coach defense. Overworks/doesn't  know how to motivate them. And don't even get me started about next season.  Will be lucky to not be relegated to the A10.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

MuggsyB

Quote from: MU82 on February 23, 2025, 02:48:17 PMA few observations:

I don't follow UConnScoop, but I kinda wonder what they are saying about Karaban. He is their Joplin, and he has the stats to prove it. He's a mess. Is he for sure leaving after this season? Will he even get drafted?

I really like Aaron Scott. Every time I watch StJ, he makes a ton of winning plays that often don't show up in the box score.

Watching the first 25 minutes, if you didn't know that Hurley was the coach, you'd say, "Wow, UConn is a poorly coached team." Bad shots, sloppy, poor decisions, outhustled, etc.

StJ hits the boards so hard. Impressive. And their defense is so aggressive that refs simply don't call anywhere near all the major contact. The energy they play with is extraordinary.

Luis is playing like a lottery pick.

McNeeley obviously has talent but he gets flustered pretty easily and tries forcing things.

I'm not even sure StJ needs to shoot well to advance far in the NCAAs, but if they hit 36-40% of their 3s they can win the title.

For all our problems, Marquette played StJ much closer for much longer than UConn did. Ours was an actual contest. Yeah I know ... hang a banner!


They might not have shooters, but they have scorers.  And ther ability to rebound and pressure the ball is elite.  I still think how they're officiated will play a roll, but they're certainly dangerous.  I definitely wouldn't want to play them if you're a team prone to turnovers.  I think most people would take Duke & Auburn vs the field.  After that it's not crazy to think St.J is in that next tier.  And I didn't believe that a few weeks ago. 

Shooter McGavin

Quote from: MuggsyB on February 23, 2025, 03:14:42 PMThey might not have shooters, but they have scorers.  And ther ability to rebound and pressure the ball is elite.  I still think how they're officiated will play a roll, but they're certainly dangerous.  I definitely wouldn't want to play them if you're a team prone to turnovers.  I think most people would take Duke & Auburn vs the field.  After that it's not crazy to think St.J is in that next tier.  And I didn't believe that a few weeks ago.

Agreed Muggsy.

GoldenEagles03

Quote from: MU82 on February 23, 2025, 02:48:17 PMA few observations:

I don't follow UConnScoop, but I kinda wonder what they are saying about Karaban. He is their Joplin, and he has the stats to prove it. He's a mess. Is he for sure leaving after this season? Will he even get drafted?

I really like Aaron Scott. Every time I watch StJ, he makes a ton of winning plays that often don't show up in the box score.

Watching the first 25 minutes, if you didn't know that Hurley was the coach, you'd say, "Wow, UConn is a poorly coached team." Bad shots, sloppy, poor decisions, outhustled, etc.

StJ hits the boards so hard. Impressive. And their defense is so aggressive that refs simply don't call anywhere near all the major contact. The energy they play with is extraordinary.

Luis is playing like a lottery pick.

McNeeley obviously has talent but he gets flustered pretty easily and tries forcing things.

I'm not even sure StJ needs to shoot well to advance far in the NCAAs, but if they hit 36-40% of their 3s they can win the title.

For all our problems, Marquette played StJ much closer for much longer than UConn did. Ours was an actual contest. Yeah I know ... hang a banner!


Idk about Karaban being their Joplin.

He had 17 and 7 today. I'd love to get that from the Jop Wagon again.
VIOLENCE!

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 23, 2025, 03:42:11 PMIdk about Karaban being their Joplin.

He had 17 and 7 today. I'd love to get that from the Jop Wagon again.

Karaban started Big East play 11/25 from 3 in their first 3 games. 16/69 since then and that includes the 3/6 today.

GoldenEagles03

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on February 23, 2025, 03:54:42 PMKaraban started Big East play 11/25 from 3 in their first 3 games. 16/69 since then and that includes the 3/6 today.

Dang that's bad. I'd still love a 17 and 7 from Joplin at some point haha
VIOLENCE!

MU82

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 23, 2025, 03:42:11 PMIdk about Karaban being their Joplin.

He had 17 and 7 today. I'd love to get that from the Jop Wagon again.

Karaban is a mess. Look at some stats (such as those posted by VBMG) before you respond.

Like Joplin, he's lost his 3-ball; like Joplin, that makes him a much lesser player.

As for 17 and 7 ... Joplin had 22 and 8 against Creighton just two weeks ago. A UConn fan might say, "I'd love to get that from the Kara wagon again."
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

ATL MU Warrior

Quote from: MU82 on February 23, 2025, 04:36:23 PMKaraban is a mess. Look at some stats (such as those posted by VBMG) before you respond.

Like Joplin, he's lost his 3-ball; like Joplin, that makes him a much lesser player.

As for 17 and 7 ... Joplin had 22 and 8 against Creighton just two weeks ago. A UConn fan might say, "I'd love to get that from the Kara wagon again."
The "Kara wagon"?

How about the Kara van"? 

MU82

Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on February 23, 2025, 04:40:12 PMThe "Kara wagon"?

How about the Kara van"? 

You have earned your money as editor.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: Johnny B on February 23, 2025, 02:44:52 PMI thought I heard an announcer say something like St. John's hasn't won a ncca tourny game in 25 years. Just a shocking stat to me

1999 when they made the elite 8.
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

Billy Hoyle

So, BE POY; Kalk's to lose now? St John's doesn't have one go to guy who can win it.

Is Stevie still the leader for DPOY? I'm wondering if Kam has slipped from first team AA at this point too.
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

GoldenEagles03

VIOLENCE!

Daniel

St. John's is incredible.   Wow.   


ATL MU Warrior

whew!  Maybe we can win that game now.

MU82

Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on February 25, 2025, 03:23:43 PMwhew!  Maybe we can win that game now.

I wish he were playing. We were gonna beat them regardless. We'll win at least 3 of our 4 remaining regular-season games.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

mileskishnish72

Feel bad for Sorber, he's a helluva player.

tower912

Quote from: mileskishnish72 on February 25, 2025, 08:34:55 PMFeel bad for Sorber, he's a helluva player.
A very good player and a likely one and done.  Held to 11 by MU in the prior meeting.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

rgoode57

I wonder if the injury / surgery means Sorber will be back at Georgetown next year instead of going into the draft.

Its DJOver

Quote from: rgoode57 on February 26, 2025, 08:25:34 AMI wonder if the injury / surgery means Sorber will be back at Georgetown next year instead of going into the draft.

I would think he's gone regardless.  I haven't seen a mock that doesn't have him in the 1st round (approx. 50/50 split on lottery or not). I've long since given up trying to predict what 18-22 year old will do, but even with NIL, I would think a 1st round guarantee would be gone regardless.

The one that will be interesting to watch IMO is Hopkins. Would he think his odds at the NBA are slipping? He was generally thought to be a 1st rounder before he got hurt last year. If he thinks he won't get drafted as a 23 year old next year would he look to just get a bag? If that's the case, it won't be at PC.
Scoop motto:
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on February 06, 2025, 06:04:29 PMthe stats bear that out, but

MU Fan in Connecticut

Quote from: rgoode57 on February 26, 2025, 08:25:34 AMI wonder if the injury / surgery means Sorber will be back at Georgetown next year instead of going into the draft.

Unsure.  One of the games I watched Georgetown (either against us or Xavier) the announcers said Sorber has said he wants to be the next great Georgetown center, whatever that translates to.

wadesworld

I believe the Bucks now have one second rounder in this draft after the deadline moves.  If Sorber were to somehow fall that far, I'd give double whatever guys like Kolek were getting on guaranteed second rounder salaries last year.  If Sorber weren't to be around (he wouldn't) I'd do it for Raynaud.

Biggie Clausen

Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on February 25, 2025, 03:23:43 PMwhew!  Maybe we can win that game now.

I'm sure there will be people gloating about how quiet the board is after we whoop a piss poor team who just lost their best player.

wadesworld

Quote from: Biggie Clausen on February 26, 2025, 12:05:03 PMI'm sure there will be people gloating about how quiet the board is after we whoop a piss poor team who just lost their best player.

There are posters who only come around and whine and complain when the team isn't playing well.  We're watching a program that has continued to be ranked for basically 3 entire seasons straight.  Of course there are times of frustration.  The team hasn't been playing well much lately.  But these are champagne problems.  Posters can post however they want, but they're going to take crap if all they do is complain about this program, and they should.

tower912

As I said to Willie, my energy toward some posters reflects their energy toward the players.   If all a poster can say is (Player x) sucks, well, that is my energy toward that poster.  It is how I process things and is me expressing my opinion.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

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