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MuggsyB

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 23, 2025, 12:05:53 PMThat's just not true. Our guards are all more physical. It's just the front court.

Their guards are very physical too. 

GoldenEagles03

Quote from: MuggsyB on February 23, 2025, 12:07:58 PMTheir guards are very physical too.

You said they were way more physical than us at every position which just isn't true.

If anything we run into problems because our guards are too physical.
VIOLENCE!

The Sultan

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 23, 2025, 12:11:03 PMYou said they were way more physical than us at every position which just isn't true.

If anything we run into problems because our guards are too physical.

I don't know about that...
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Billy Hoyle

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 23, 2025, 12:11:03 PMYou said they were way more physical than us at every position which just isn't true.

If anything we run into problems because our guards are too physical.

Do you believe Kam or Chase are more physical than Richmond? The guy is a tank and seeks out contact.
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

GoldenEagles03

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on February 23, 2025, 12:14:08 PMDo you believe Kam or Chase are more physical than Richmond? The guy is a tank and seeks out contact.

To me it seemed as if they were discussing it from a rebounding perspective. Offensively? Sure Richmond is physical in seeking contact.

From a defensive and rebounding perspective Chase and Stevie are as physical as any guards in the league.
VIOLENCE!

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 23, 2025, 12:19:46 PMTo me it seemed as if they were discussing it from a rebounding perspective. Offensively? Sure Richmond is physical in seeking contact.

From a defensive and rebounding perspective Chase and Stevie are as physical as any guards in the league.

Gotcha. I'm Im on board with you there.
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

GoldenEagles03

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on February 23, 2025, 12:24:27 PMGotcha. I'm Im on board with you there.

Stevie even has a higher OREB rate than RJ Luis...maybe out of necessity because MU doesn't have a glass cleaner like Ejiofor in the front court.

I'll say it like this...I guess when it comes to physicality I'm never worried about our backcourt.
VIOLENCE!

jfp61

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 23, 2025, 12:19:46 PMTo me it seemed as if they were discussing it from a rebounding perspective. Offensively? Sure Richmond is physical in seeking contact.

From a defensive and rebounding perspective Chase and Stevie are as physical as any guards in the league.

Chase and Stevie impact the defensive box score more than Kadary. But that doesn't make you a more physical or better defenders.

Kadary is the best defender on the best defense in the big east because St. John's and his length can force missed shots.

You can blame other Marquette players for them not being the statistical best defenders, but defense is a team game.

Arguably again it comes down to their coach just playing their best players more.

wadesworld

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 23, 2025, 12:19:46 PMTo me it seemed as if they were discussing it from a rebounding perspective. Offensively? Sure Richmond is physical in seeking contact.

From a defensive and rebounding perspective Chase and Stevie are as physical as any guards in the league.

Someone can do the percentages. Chase averages 4 rpg, Stevie averages 4.1 rpg, and Kam averages 4.4 rpg.

RJ Luis averages 7.2 rpg, Kadary Richmond averages 8.1 rpg, Deivon Smith averages 5 rpg. They're significantly more physical on the boards, and at least as physical defensively. They're 2nd in defensive efficiency in the country.

Billy Hoyle

The Johnnies defense looks like what ours looked like against Purdue. Absolutely swarming the UConn guards.
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MuggsyB

This is a total ass kicking right now. 

GoldenEagles03

Quote from: wadesworld on February 23, 2025, 12:27:21 PMSomeone can do the percentages. Chase averages 4 rpg, Stevie averages 4.1 rpg, and Kam averages 4.4 rpg.

RJ Luis averages 7.2 rpg, Kadary Richmond averages 8.1 rpg, Deivon Smith averages 5 rpg. They're significantly more physical on the boards, and at least as physical defensively. They're 2nd in defensive efficiency in the country.

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 23, 2025, 12:26:12 PMStevie even has a higher OREB rate than RJ Luis...maybe out of necessity because MU doesn't have a glass cleaner like Ejiofor in the front court.

I'll say it like this...I guess when it comes to physicality I'm never worried about our backcourt.
VIOLENCE!

MuggsyB

UCONN competing much harder and St.J has gotten sloppy. 

GoldenEagles03

St. John's got caught over-helping a bit the last few possessions. Been our biggest issue defensively in my opinion. Play 25 seconds of good defense and give the possession away in the last 5 seconds being too aggressive on a help or steal attempt.

Could be a ballgame now!
VIOLENCE!

GoldenEagles03

Are they just gonna show that Pitino halftime speech during every St. John's game now? Lol.
VIOLENCE!

MuggsyB

Absolutely moronic shot by Karaban. 

GoldenEagles03

St. John's gets away with so much contact inside the arc.
VIOLENCE!

MuggsyB

#8692
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 23, 2025, 12:59:12 PMSt. John's gets away with so much contact inside the arc.

No doubt.  We need to beat them on 3/8 and play with a tenacity unlike anything we have seen this year. 
 



Billy Hoyle

What St John's is doing is playing with violence. Our non-conference defense turned up a few notches
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MuggsyB

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on February 23, 2025, 01:08:40 PMWhat St John's is doing is playing with violence. Our non-conference defense turned up a few notches

They're playing with violence on offense too.  They hack for sure but play really hard.  And that's a skill. 

muwarrior69

Quote from: MuggsyB on February 23, 2025, 01:03:19 PMNo doubt.  We need to beat them on 3/7 and play with a tenacity unlike anything we have seen this year. 
 




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Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: MuggsyB on February 23, 2025, 01:03:19 PMNo doubt.  We need to beat them on 3/7 and play with a tenacity unlike anything we have seen this year. 
 




Zero chance we beat them on March 7th.

MuggsyB

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on February 23, 2025, 02:31:34 PMZero chance we beat them on March 7th.

Total lack of focus on my part.  My apologies. 

Johnny B

I thought I heard an announcer say something like St. John's hasn't won a ncca tourny game in 25 years. Just a shocking stat to me

MU82

A few observations:

I don't follow UConnScoop, but I kinda wonder what they are saying about Karaban. He is their Joplin, and he has the stats to prove it. He's a mess. Is he for sure leaving after this season? Will he even get drafted?

I really like Aaron Scott. Every time I watch StJ, he makes a ton of winning plays that often don't show up in the box score.

Watching the first 25 minutes, if you didn't know that Hurley was the coach, you'd say, "Wow, UConn is a poorly coached team." Bad shots, sloppy, poor decisions, outhustled, etc.

StJ hits the boards so hard. Impressive. And their defense is so aggressive that refs simply don't call anywhere near all the major contact. The energy they play with is extraordinary.

Luis is playing like a lottery pick.

McNeeley obviously has talent but he gets flustered pretty easily and tries forcing things.

I'm not even sure StJ needs to shoot well to advance far in the NCAAs, but if they hit 36-40% of their 3s they can win the title.

For all our problems, Marquette played StJ much closer for much longer than UConn did. Ours was an actual contest. Yeah I know ... hang a banner!
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