Big East Poll , NET Rankings and Team Sheets

[Herman Cain]

Big East NET rankings as of games of March 2, 2023
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7   7   UConn   
13   13   Marquette
14   14   Creighton   
19   19   Xavier   
39   40   Providence   
76   76   Villanova   
85   85   Seton Hall   
99   98   St. John's
129   129   Butler   
171   173   DePaul   
230   231   Georgetown   
March 3 Team Sheets. MU is 13
https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2023/net-teamsheets-plus

[Herman Cain]

Big East NET rankings as of games of March 3, 2023
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7   7   UConn   
13   13   Marquette   
14   14   Creighton   
19   19   Xavier   
39   39   Providence   
76   76   Villanova   
85   85   Seton Hall   
98   99   St. John's
128   129   Butler   
170   171   DePaul   
231   230   Georgetown   
March 4 Team Sheets. MU is 13
https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2023/net-teamsheets-plus

[MarquetteMike1977]

Marquette's NET is 13 Today

[Herman Cain]

Big East NET rankings as of games of March 4 2023
New Old
6   7   UConn   
13   13   Marquette   
14   14   Creighton   
22   19   Xavier   
51   39   Providence   
74   85   Seton Hall   
79   76   Villanova   
97   98   St. John's
131   128   Butler   
172   170   DePaul   
235   231   Georgetown
March 5 Team Sheets. MU is 13
https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2023/net-teamsheets-plus

[cheebs09]

Seton Hall Q1!!!

[goldeneagle91114]

So is that 7 total Q1 wins, or does only the away game at Seton Hall count as a Q1 win?

[Vander Blue Man Group]

So is that 7 total Q1 wins, or does only the away game at Seton Hall count as a Q1 win?

Only the away game. Was also hoping Villanova could upset UConn as well to move that road win into Q1 but it didn't happen.

[Herman Cain]

Big East NET rankings as of games of March 5, 2023
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6   6   UConn   
13   13   Marquette   
14   14   Creighton   
22   22   Xavier   
51   51   Providence   
75   74   Seton Hall   
80   79   Villanova
97   97   St. John's
131   131   Butler   
172   172   DePaul   
235   235   Georgetown   
March 6 Team Sheets. MU is 13
https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2023/net-teamsheets-plus

[Herman Cain]

Big East Poll Ranking March 6, 2023
AP
6. MU
11. U Conn
15. X
24. Creighton
Others Receiving Votes
Cooley & Company

Coaches
6. MU
14. U Conn
15. X
22. Creighton
Others Receiving Votes
Cooley & Company

[Herman Cain]

Big East NET rankings as of games of March 6, 2023
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6   6   UConn   
13   13   Marquette   
14   14   Creighton   
22   22   Xavier   
52   51   Providence   
75   75   Seton Hall   
80   80   Villanova   
97   97   St. John's
131   131   Butler   
173   172   DePaul   
235   235   Georgetown
March 7 Team Sheets . MU is 13
https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2023/net-teamsheets-plus

[Herman Cain]

Big East NET rankings as of games of March 7. 2023
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7   6   UConn   
13   13   Marquette   
14   14   Creighton   
22   22   Xavier   
53   52   Providence   
75   75   Seton Hall   
80   80   Villanova   
97   97   St. John's
130   131   Butler   
172   173   DePaul   
237   235   Georgetown   
March 8 Team Sheets. MU is 13
https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2023/net-teamsheets-plus

[Herman Cain]

Big East NET rankings as of games of March 8, 2023
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7   7   UConn   
13   13   Marquette   
14   14   Creighton   
23   22   Xavier   
53   53   Providence   
72   80   Villanova   
78   75   Seton Hall   
98   97   St. John's
133   130   Butler   
169   172   DePaul   
242   237   Georgetown
March 9 Team Sheets. MU is 13
https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2023/net-teamsheets-plus

[The Thing]

I feel like we have been sitting at 13 for so long. Makes me wonder what a loss or two would have done to our Net?

[lawdog77]

Stupid Seton Hall.

[tower912]

Redundant.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I feel like we have been sitting at 13 for so long. Makes me wonder what a loss or two would have done to our Net?

Depends on the loss. Turn our 26 point win over Baylor into a 1 point loss? Probably drop several spots. Turn our 2 point win at Creighton into a 1 point loss? Probably still at 13

[Herman Cain]

Big East NET rankings as of games of March 9, 2023
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7   7   UConn   
12   13   Marquette   
13   14   Creighton   
25   23   Xavier   
55   53   Providence   
74   72   Villanova   
78   78   Seton Hall   
98   98   St. John's
133   133   Butler
164   169   DePaul   
242   242   Georgetown   
March 10 Team Sheets . MU is 12
https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2023/net-teamsheets-plus

[DoctorV]

Baylor in the NET rear view, hopefully in the S Curve rear view as well!

[Herman Cain]

Big East NET rankings as of games of March 10, 2023
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8   7   UConn   
12   12   Marquette   
16   13   Creighton   
19   25   Xavier   
56   55   Providence   
75   74   Villanova   
80   78   Seton Hall   
99   98   St. John's
133   133   Butler   
163   164   DePaul   
243   242   Georgetown
March 11 Team Sheets. MU is 12
https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2023/net-teamsheets-plus

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Question for the numbers guys. Why are Marquettes defensive metrics as low as they are?

That hard to dig out of a hole from the early season struggles?

[Uncle Rico]

Question for the numbers guys. Why are Marquettes defensive metrics as low as they are?

That hard to dig out of a hole from the early season struggles?

Pace was way higher early in the season and gave up a lot of points/more points than expected.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Question for the numbers guys. Why are Marquettes defensive metrics as low as they are?

That hard to dig out of a hole from the early season struggles?

1. Defensive rebounding. We give up an absurd amount of offensive boards.
2. Allowing teams, specifically bad offensive teams, to have good shooting games against us. Our defense had the tendency to play down to the quality of opponent. We stymied a lot of really good offensive units (for example, Xavier x3). But we allowed teams like St. John's, Wisconsin, and DePaul to have really good shooting games against us.
3. We foul more than we should on defense though we've cleaned that up in the second half of Big East play.

We counter that with an elite ability to turn teams over. You can give up a 3 or an offensive board if they never get a shot off in the first place!

[DoctorV]

1. Defensive rebounding. We give up an absurd amount of offensive boards.
2. Allowing teams, specifically bad offensive teams, to have good shooting games against us. Our defense had the tendency to play down to the quality of opponent. We stymied a lot of really good offensive units (for example, Xavier x3). But we allowed teams like St. John's, Wisconsin, and DePaul to have really good shooting games against us.
3. We foul more than we should on defense though we've cleaned that up in the second half of Big East play.

We counter that with an elite ability to turn teams over. You can give up a 3 or an offensive board if they never get a shot off in the first place!

Good summary.

#2 stands out in my mind as the main reason the metrics are lower than they should on D.

There was a recently written great piece that Marquette plays down to the competition defensively, and plays up against good Q1 opposition.

In the end it kind of makes sense. Marquette is a squad that has been drive by that chip on its shoulder all season.
It's easy, versus poorer competition, to get a bit softer defensively when you've got a lead, and or don't really have that extra motivational edge to really get after it defensively.

That's why the biggest game of Shakas Marquette tenure is the next one.
Win game 1

[JakeBarnes]

our D on kenpom jumped 20 spots ronight5

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Agreed DocV. I read that article too and came to the same conclusion. Our defense is undervalued.

our D on kenpom jumped 20 spots ronight5

That's what happens when you hold a team that on the season shoots an eFG% of 55.6% (11th best in the country) to 38.5% eFG% (that would be last in the country by almost 5%)