Twitter 3.0

[Pakuni]

That's coming awfully close to Godwin's law.

Never heard anyone say Putin's a nice guy, but he needs some "no" men around him.

I know you're just trying to be argumentative, but you obviously don't understand what Godwin's law means.
Or are you being intentionally obtuse?
Either way, you can do better.

[MU82]

Meanwhile, TSLA hit its 52-week low today. Actually, it's at its low point since early December 2020, so almost a 2-year low.

Musk wasting money on a mediocre company -- one he didn't even really want -- just because he was throwing a hissy fit has spooked and/or angered investors in his real company.

And yes, I'm long TSLA.

[jficke13]

Leveraging his personal stake in TSLA to secure funding to buyout Twitter is going to be an all time bad governance move.

[lawdog77]

I know you're just trying to be argumentative, but you obviously don't understand what Godwin's law means.
Or are you being intentionally obtuse?
Either way, you can do better.

I was going to say the same thing to you. Comparing Musk to Putin is pretty close to bringing Hitler into the conversation. Closer than Musk actually being comparable to Putin. Another one of your failed arguments.

[Pakuni]

I was going to say the same thing to you. Comparing Musk to Putin is pretty close to bringing Hitler into the conversation. Closer than Musk actually being comparable to Putin. Another one of your failed arguments.

What? You got "Musk = Putin" from what I wrote? Good Lord. I apologize for suggesting you were intentionally obtuse.
I'll go slow.
I am NOT drawing a parallel between the people. I am drawing a parallel to how they're both surrounded by people who can or will not tell them "No, that's a bad idea," and how that has led both into making what for now look like very poor decisions. And I clearly noted that the situations involved "vastly different circumstances and consequences."
Get it now? It's not hard.

[Pakuni]

Musk and Sacks have talked about putting Twitter behind a paywall.
Seems like a bad idea.

https://www.theverge.com/2022/11/7/23446262/elon-musk-twitter-paywall-possible

[lawdog77]

What? You got "Musk = Putin" from what I wrote? Good Lord. I apologize for suggesting you were intentionally obtuse.
I'll go slow.
I am NOT drawing a parallel between the people. I am drawing a parallel to how they're both surrounded by people who can or will not tell them "No, that's a bad idea," and how that has led both into making what for now look like very poor decisions. And I clearly noted that the situations involved "vastly different circumstances and consequences."
Get it now? It's not hard.

Their situations are not even close, but keep trying to paint Musk as the devil.

[Pakuni]

Their situations are not even close, but keep trying to paint Musk as the devil.

OK, Lionel.

[Jockey]

Their situations are not even close, but keep trying to paint Musk as the devil.

If you are a lawyer, you should be doing a better job.

Pakuni is wiping the floor with you so far.

[Jockey]

One has to wonder why Musk came out and urged people to vote for Rs.

We know he leans authoritarian, but I expect money means more than politics to him.

He's worried about government regulation most of all. Buying Twitter may make it more likely if Ds take over, but he has a lot else on the table that could be affected.

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

See the recent Rolling Stone story on women working at Tesla.

Apparently there is a class action lawsuit against Tesla because women who work at Tesla are highly harassed daily with no repercussion based on the flow down attitude of it's leader.  (That's the gist of the story.)

[Uncle Rico]

See the recent Rolling Stone story on women working at Tesla.

Apparently there is a class action lawsuit against Tesla because women who work at Tesla are highly harassed daily with no repercussion based on the flow down attitude of it's leader.  (That's the gist of the story.)

Maybe if women were in the home where they belong, it wouldn't be an issue. 

[Herman Cain]

New Management says user growth is up

https://www.ft.com/content/b8dfedb7-dcb8-4ca3-be74-3ac59376d59b

[4everwarriors]

Maybe if women were in the home where they belong, it wouldn't be an issue.

Nah, barefoot and pregnant, aina?

[Uncle Rico]

Nah, barefoot and pregnant, aina?

That, too

[Jockey]

Nah, barefoot and pregnant, aina?

Kitchen or bedroom.

[4everwarriors]

Outdoors beginning May 1, hey?

[Golden Avalanche]

One has to wonder why Musk came out and urged people to vote for Rs.

We know he leans authoritarian, but I expect money means more than politics to him.

He's worried about government regulation most of all. Buying Twitter may make it more likely if Ds take over, but he has a lot else on the table that could be affected.

Unsure on the bolded given his formative years spent in an Apartheid society. Status with a dash of adulation seems his motivation.

If he's going to get that in bunches with a particular set of Americans then I suspect he'll leverage politics to the hilt so he gets it good.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

One has to wonder why Musk came out and urged people to vote for Rs.

We know he leans authoritarian, but I expect money means more than politics to him.

He's worried about government regulation most of all. Buying Twitter may make it more likely if Ds take over, but he has a lot else on the table that could be affected.

I've legitimately wondered if Musk is trying to set himself up to slide into the King of the MAGAs role once 45 passes away and running for president following the same "Billionaire who owns the libs on twitter" playbook.

[jficke13]

Unsure on the bolded given his formative years spent in an Apartheid society. Status with a dash of adulation seems his motivation.

If he's going to get that in bunches with a particular set of Americans then I suspect he'll leverage politics to the hilt so he gets it good.

As fun as it is to dunk on every aspect of Elon Musk, I'm skeptical that he internalized the apartheid thing. Evidence suggests he actively rejected it and get the heck out of South Africa at the first opportunity. Behind the Bastards has a good podcast on him that gives a solid background (recorded long before this whole twitter fiasco fwiw).

My read is not far from that Sacca thread that someone linked. I thought for sure he would not rock the boat too much because he needed to service that debt he took on, but I was wrong about that, clearly. I think he's a visionary with a particular set of skills that lend him to be an exceptional head of a disruptive/start up vertically-integrated high-tech manufacturing companies. I do not think those skills are readily transferable to running a social media company.

I also think he's got incredibly thin skin and no qualms about wielding his position to defend his fragile ego, which is what has led to most of the own goals so far under his tenure.

If he were smart, he'd put the phone away, hire a solid outside operator who can do the disciplined cost cutting/value unlocking thing, and he could flip the company in a couple years for a profit and cement another chapter in his hagiography of "tech savant who can do no wrong" but so far I'm not seeing anything that suggests he's got the capacity to do soo.

[cheebs09]

I've legitimately wondered if Musk is trying to set himself up to slide into the King of the MAGAs role once 45 passes away and running for president following the same "Billionaire who owns the libs on twitter" playbook.

Can he run for President? I thought he was born in South Africa.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Can he run for President? I thought he was born in South Africa.

Ah you're right. I forgot that he's not a natural born citizen.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Ah you're right. I forgot that he's not a natural born citizen.

Neither was Obama.  <ducks>

[Galway Eagle]

Neither was Obama.  <ducks>

There was a time when we'd all laugh and for the most part people who believed weird fringe stuff like this were considered crazy... then we elected the main one president.

[Jockey]

There was a time when we'd all laugh and for the most part people who believed weird fringe stuff like this were considered crazy... then we elected the main one president.

If you had a kid in high school who had to dodge kitty litter boxes all day, you'd change your tune.