2024 -25 College Football and College Football Playoff Thread

[WhiteTrash]

No, but they were 3 of the 68 best. Different sport, different selection criteria ... as you well know.

Thank God for that.

[WhiteTrash]

Well then I don't think, as constructed, FSU is one of the 4 best.

But I think there's a good argument for GA or Oregon

FSU did everything possible to get an invite (OOC LSU game is pretty tough). The take-a-way is the CFP thinks the ACC is dog s#&t and FSU along with Clemson, Miami and UNC (who are paying attention) are going to turbo charge the efforts to end the ACC.

Kind of funny the undefeated AAC champ was invited 2 years ago. 

[Uncle Rico]

FSU did everything possible to get an invite (OOC LSU game is pretty tough). The take-a-way is the CFP thinks the ACC is dog s#&t and FSU along with Clemson, Miami and UNC (who are paying attention) are going to turbo charge the efforts to end the ACC.

Kind of funny the undefeated AAC champ was invited 2 years ago. 

The committee didn't keep FSU out because of conference affiliation but because of the QB situation

[WhiteTrash]

You can't make this sh!t up:
Boo Corrigan just said that Liberty got the G5 New Year's Six bowl berth because "Liberty just continued to win."

[jesmu84]

FSU did everything possible to get an invite (OOC LSU game is pretty tough). The take-a-way is the CFP thinks the ACC is dog s#&t and FSU along with Clemson, Miami and UNC (who are paying attention) are going to turbo charge the efforts to end the ACC.

Kind of funny the undefeated AAC champ was invited 2 years ago. 

If FSU has their first string QB, I guarantee they're in right now

[Uncle Rico]

If FSU has their first string QB, I guarantee they're in right now

Yup

[WhiteTrash]

The committee didn't keep FSU out because of conference affiliation but because of the QB situation

That is verifiable wrong. Last week FSU had the same QB situation they will have in the bowl game and were #4.

We'd all lose our minds (rightfully so) if TK missed the BE tournament, that we won, and was set to be back for the NCAA but we got busted down a seed line or two. 

It's okay to acknowledge the CFP thinks more highly of the SEC, B10 and B12. The ACC is not very good.

[wadesworld]

I don't think FSU is a top 4 team right now. But I think that's the wrong way to select the teams that make a Playoff. You select teams based off of wins and losses in every sport. Except for college football, I guess.

I also think you can absolutely make a case for Oregon, Georgia, and Ohio State. Why was only Georgia discussed, if it's truly the job of the committee to select the "four best" teams? And why was FSU discussed at all if that's the job of the committee, and you're looking at the current state of the team?

[WhiteTrash]

I don't think FSU is a top 4 team right now. But I think that's the wrong way to select the teams that make a Playoff. You select teams based off of wins and losses in every sport. Except for college football, I guess.

I also think you can absolutely make a case for Oregon, Georgia, and Ohio State. Why was only Georgia discussed, if it's truly the job of the committee to select the "four best" teams? And why was FSU discussed at all if that's the job of the committee, and you're looking at the current state of the team?

Good point. You can make a great case the committee is a horrible job by having FSU #5.

[Pakuni]

You can't make this sh!t up:
Boo Corrigan just said that Liberty got the G5 New Year's Six bowl berth because "Liberty just continued to win."

If Tulane hadn't choked against SMU yesterday, they would have had the the G5 berth with a 12-1 record, ahead of unbeaten Liberty.

[Uncle Rico]

That is verifiable wrong. Last week FSU had the same QB situation they will have in the bowl game and were #4.

We'd all lose our minds (rightfully so) if TK missed the BE tournament, that we won, and was set to be back for the NCAA but we got busted down a seed line or two. 

It's okay to acknowledge the CFP thinks more highly of the SEC, B10 and B12. The ACC is not very good.

No, they took Alabama because they beat Georgia and FSU has a QB problem.  Your bias is always showing

[WhiteTrash]

If Tulane hadn't choked against SMU yesterday, they would have had the the G5 berth with a 12-1 record, ahead of unbeaten Liberty.

From ESPN:

Strength of schedule
SMU: 76
Liberty: 133 (out of 133)

FPI
SMU: 20
Liberty: 49

Points margin/game
SMU: 23.2
Liberty: 18.1

Wins vs. FPI top 60
SMU: 2
Liberty: 0

[WhiteTrash]

No, they took Alabama because they beat Georgia and FSU has a QB problem.  Your bias is always showing

and took Texas because they had a win against OkSt.?

I am bias against the ACC. Guilty as charged. They were hoping to dance on the BE grave. No love lost here.

[Uncle Rico]

and took Texas because they had a win against OkSt.?

I am bias against the ACC. Guilty as charged. They were hoping to dance on the BE grave. No love lost here.

They took Texas because they won at Alabama.  If Georgia wins, the final spot is between FSU and Texas

[Pakuni]

From ESPN:

Strength of schedule
SMU: 76
Liberty: 133 (out of 133)

FPI
SMU: 20
Liberty: 49

Points margin/game
SMU: 23.2
Liberty: 18.1

Wins vs. FPI top 60
SMU: 2
Liberty: 0

Are you saying SMU deserved it ahead of Liberty?
That's fine with me.
But then you can't argue for FSU's inclusion, right?

[Pakuni]

and took Texas because they had a win against OkSt.?

They took Texas because, as with Bama, they judged (correctly, IMO) that Texas is a better team right now than FSU.

[Uncle Rico]

They took Texas because, as with Bama, they judged (correctly, IMO) that Texas is a better team right now than FSU.

Yup.  If Jordan Travis is healthy, the Seminoles are the 2 or 3 seed

[WhiteTrash]

Are you saying SMU deserved it ahead of Liberty?
That's fine with me.
But then you can't argue for FSU's inclusion, right?

I have said this before: I agree with the FSU exclusion. I don't think they belong. I am in lock step with the conclusion that an undefeated ACC season doesn't mean crap.

I just thought it funny and extremally hypocritical to reward Liberty for 'just winning' and kick FSU to the curb for playing in a crap league. SMU should be in the NYD6 bowl way before Liberty.  I guess one more gut punch to the (future) ACC 

[Pakuni]

I have said this before: I agree with the FSU exclusion. I don't think they belong. I am in lock step with the conclusion that an undefeated ACC season doesn't mean crap.

I just thought it funny and extremally hypocritical to reward Liberty for 'just winning' and kick FSU to the curb for playing in a crap league. SMU should be in the NYD6 bowl way before Liberty.  I guess one more gut punch to the (future) ACC 

I will say, though, a 1-loss team over an undefeated team without its QB is an easier sell than a two-loss team over an undefeated team that has all its key players.

[The Sultan]

The ACC has apparently been in meetings all afternoon and hasn't finalized their bowl opponents yet.

[WhiteTrash]

I will say, though, a 1-loss team over an undefeated team without its QB is an easier sell than a two-loss team over an undefeated team that has all its key players.

I doubt if Liberty fans know if the have all their key players.

Any ways, good debates and good points made all around.

[WhiteTrash]

The ACC has apparently been in meetings all afternoon and hasn't finalized their bowl opponents yet.

Kind of like the A10 after NCAA bids come out? NIT or CBI? Tough call.

[Pakuni]

The ACC has apparently been in meetings all afternoon and hasn't finalized their bowl opponents yet.

Seems like FSU has accepted their fate.

https://twitter.com/FSUFootball/status/1731398015909302532?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

[MUeng]

It's a broken sport right now. FSU is right in saying predictive performance matters more than on field results, apparently. That means things need to change to be taken seriously. P5(or P4 now) Conf Champs need an auto bid. Shake out any wildcard desires after that

[wadesworld]

This year you have undefeated ACC Champion Florida State missing the CFP. Next year you'll have Tulane and Liberty getting automatic bids to the CFP. Awesome.