2024 -25 College Football and College Football Playoff Thread

[wadesworld]

Yeah, should probably just assume sarcasm from Rico.

Especially when it mimics Herman's posts.

[Scoop Snoop]

Am I the only one that's assuming teal here?

Nope. As I wrote earlier-

Hook. Line. Sinker.

[Dish]

Mich State presser at 5pm today. Perfect time to fire Tucker during the NFL late window.

[HutchwasClutch]

Mich State presser at 5pm today. Perfect time to fire Tucker during the NFL late window.

Good news.

[JWags85]

Tucker isn't even being fired for the actual sexual act.  That was completely reprehensible, but he STILL had an out to get past it all.  He's being fired cause he's threw a fit and then acted like a bully when he was rejected.  What a clown

[Dish]

Tucker officially fired.

[tower912]

AMF

[HutchwasClutch]

More heads should roll too. MSU has been aware of these allegations and Tucker's admission for MONTHS. 

[Dish]

Conflicting report from Detroit Free Press saying he's suspended with pay until the outcome of the investigation.

[The Sultan]

More heads should roll too. MSU has been aware of these allegations and Tucker's admission for MONTHS. 

Right, but they trying to get out of the contract, so letting the Title IX investigation play out until the final hearing in October makes sense.

[HutchwasClutch]

Right, but they trying to get out of the contract, so letting the Title IX investigation play out until the final hearing in October makes sense.

Makes sense.  I didn't think of that aspect.

[The Sultan]

The fact that they scheduled the hearing during a bye week leads me to believe they were always going to let him go after the investigation. (He doesn't have to be guilty of harassment to be fired for cause apparently.) But doing it before the facts are officially presented could be problematic when it comes to firing him for cause.

[Uncle Rico]

The fact that they scheduled the hearing during a bye week leads me to believe they were always going to let him go after the investigation. (He doesn't have to be guilty of harassment to be fired for cause apparently.) But doing it before the facts are officially presented could be problematic when it comes to firing him for cause.

He's a Barry Alvarez player.  Probably learned from the master, so to speak

[Herman Cain]

Badgers fans clearly not abiding by First Corinthians 13 4-8a

https://wisportsheroics.com/wisconsin-badgers-fans-jim-leonhard-news-notes/

[tower912]

This probably explains the bizarre, rambling preseason  interviews from Tucker.   This was looming.

[The Sultan]

https://twitter.com/DanMurphyESPN/status/1701032835048526172?s=20

Apparently the administration knew there was an investigation against Tucker, but did not know the details until last night. This is actually appropriate.

[Herman Cain]

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/michigan-state/spartans/2023/09/10/michigan-state-football-mark-dantonio-trying-to-figure-out-his-role/70819413007/

[WhiteTrash]

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/michigan-state/spartans/2023/09/10/michigan-state-football-mark-dantonio-trying-to-figure-out-his-role/70819413007/

Only MSU could actually take a step backward ethically during another black eye situation. I'm waiting for them to bring back Larry Nassar as team trainer.

I guess I'm stating the obvious to everyone, but MSU has very serious leadership issues. MSU fan boards are calling for the entire BoT to be replaced.

[Uncle Rico]

Only MSU could actually take a step backward ethically during another black eye situation. I'm waiting for them to bring back Larry Nassar as team trainer.

I guess I'm stating the obvious to everyone, but MSU has very serious leadership issues. MSU fan boards are calling for the entire BoT to be replaced.

Tom Izzo will be very angry about tik tok

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Only MSU could actually take a step backward ethically during another black eye situation. I'm waiting for them to bring back Larry Nassar as team trainer.

I guess I'm stating the obvious to everyone, but MSU has very serious leadership issues. MSU fan boards are calling for the entire BoT to be replaced.

From what is publicly available, I think MSU has handled this situation as well as they could have. My only nits are the length of the investigation and this most recent suspension without pay. Title IX Investigations often take 10 months like this one will, but with such a high profile case, I would have made sure that the investigation moved along at a quicker pace. But even that has its risks because if he is fired and then shows that they deviated from their normal process because of who he is, that could make them vulnerable.

Then with this most recent suspension, I think they are actually on shaky legal ground. TIX is still using the Trump-era regs and they have high requirements for suspending someone prior to finding them responsible and I don't think they've been met in this case. It feels like a move done for optics now that the story has become public. My guess is they will use some non-TIX rule violation to try and justify the decision. For example, he reportedly got caught in several lies to the investigator. That could give them a back door justification for suspending him now.

[The Sultan]

Yeah, I was actually really surprised the suspension was without pay. It doesn't seem like it would cost all that much to pay him for a few weeks just to make sure legally everything is being done correctly.

[WhiteTrash]

From what is publicly available, I think MSU has handled this situation as well as they could have. My only nits are the length of the investigation and this most recent suspension without pay. Title IX Investigations often take 10 months like this one will, but with such a high profile case, I would have made sure that the investigation moved along at a quicker pace. But even that has its risks because if he is fired and then shows that they deviated from their normal process because of who he is, that could make them vulnerable.

Then with this most recent suspension, I think they are actually on shaky legal ground. TIX is still using the Trump-era regs and they have high requirements for suspending someone prior to finding them responsible and I don't think they've been met in this case. It feels like a move done for optics now that the story has become public. My guess is they will use some non-TIX rule violation to try and justify the decision. For example, he reportedly got caught in several lies to the investigator. That could give them a back door justification for suspending him now.

Good information. I don't know much about TIX but we have a family friend who works in that field and litigated against Baylor a few years ago that I will see in 2 weeks. I'm sure she'll have some good info, assuming she has not been brought into this case. (She said she would never send her daughter to Baylor after seeing all the facts, that she could not share)

That aside, I was pointing out that they brought back Dantonio. That guy turned a blind eye to assaults by his own players. Not the face of ethical behavior needed in this situation. I understand he resigned under pressure of the investigations into his own behavior.

[tower912]

Mel Tucker releases his side of the story.   This is not getting better.

[Herman Cain]

Mel Tucker releases his side of the story.   This is not getting better.

Tuckers statement .
https://twitter.com/NicoleAuerbach/status/1701333915108003931/photo/2

[Herman Cain]

Pitt versus West Virginia Backyard Brawl should be a fun game again.

https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/ron-cook/2023/09/15/pitt-panthers-west-virginia-mountaineers-neal-brown-pat-narduzzi/stories/202309160012