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RJax55

Quote from: JWags85 on July 14, 2022, 12:46:25 PM
US Open champion and 14 time PGA tour winner, and former World #1, can't handle the pressure of the first round of a major tournament that he finished top 3 in last year.  Bright lights just TOOO bright for him.

Rahm is feeling the heat because it is the 150(!) Open Championship!

RJax55

#76
Quote from: cheebs09 on July 14, 2022, 12:41:47 PM
This has to be Tiger's last competitive tournament before the 2023 Masters right? It seems to me he is only playing the majors this year because he's won at the courses and especially loves St. Andrews.

If they were at any other locations, I have to think he's still rehabbing and maybe gets himself and his game into good enough shape to be respectable in 2023.

I think he will play his Hero Tournament in December, but yes, you're correct. Even if his leg allows more play in 2023, I think his tournament schedule will be quite limited. And, honestly, I think it will be like that until he officially hangs it up. Like 8 events:

Farmers, Genesis, Players, Masters, PGA, US Open, British Open, Hero.

PGsHeroes32

Quote from: JWags85 on July 14, 2022, 12:46:25 PM
US Open champion and 14 time PGA tour winner, and former World #1, can't handle the pressure of the first round of a major tournament that he finished top 3 in last year.  Bright lights just TOOO bright for him.

Is there a reason you doubled Rahms career win total??

As I type this he missed another easy birdie putt.
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

RJax55

Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on July 14, 2022, 01:06:39 PM
Is there a reason you doubled Rahms career win total??

As I type this he missed another easy birdie putt.

He's having a bad day on the greens. It happens.

Blaming it on pressure during the first round of the tournament for experienced player like Rahm is silly. You sound like Johnny Miller.

JWags85

Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on July 14, 2022, 01:06:39 PM
Is there a reason you doubled Rahms career win total??

As I type this he missed another easy birdie putt.

7 PGA, 6 PGA Euro tour wins (of those 6 wins, 2 are big Dubai tournies that are won previously and recently by Rory, Morikawa, and others, and 2 are the Spanish Open, not a bunch of no name Euro tournies)

He's playing like crap, but that doesn't mean the moment is "too big for him".  Thats all we're making fun of you for.

PGsHeroes32

Quote from: RJax55 on July 14, 2022, 01:13:25 PM
He's having a bad day on the greens. It happens.

Blaming it on pressure during the first round of the tournament for experienced player like Rahm is silly. You sound like Johnny Miller.

Rahm is the king of playing consistently solid golf.

He's not a closer

So missing putts early not good for him. Especially every single hole.
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

PGsHeroes32

Quote from: JWags85 on July 14, 2022, 01:15:41 PM
7 PGA, 6 PGA Euro tour wins (of those 6 wins, 2 are big Dubai tournies that are won previously and recently by Rory, Morikawa, and others, and 2 are the Spanish Open, not a bunch of no name Euro tournies)

He's playing like crap, but that doesn't mean the moment is "too big for him".  Thats all we're making fun of you for.

Thats the thing though, it was obviously hyperbolic.

But the guy is overrated as heck. Hes been rated consistnetly #1 for the last couple years but has pretty average winning results to show for it. Every tournament I see everyone big on Rahm. Hes got the 1 major.

And a damn Mexican open win in 2 years.

Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

JWags85

Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on July 14, 2022, 01:19:21 PM
Thats the thing though, it was obviously hyperbolic.

But the guy is overrated as heck. Hes been rated consistnetly #1 for the last couple years but has pretty average winning results to show for it. Every tournament I see everyone big on Rahm. Hes got the 1 major.

And a damn Mexican open win in 2 years.

He has won 7 times on the PGA tour in the last 5 years.

In that same time frame...

Rory-8
JT-10
Morikawa-5
DJ-11
Spieth-5
Bryson-8

So its not like he's trailing everyone majorly in wins.  Also, in that time frame, he has 5 major top 5s, 3 more top 10s, and 3 top 15s. 

He's really damn good.  He wasn't #1 cause of some arbitrary ranking, its cause he's consistently performing even if he doesn't win every damn tournament.

PGsHeroes32

Quote from: JWags85 on July 14, 2022, 01:31:54 PM
He has won 7 times on the PGA tour in the last 5 years.

In that same time frame...

Rory-8
JT-10
Morikawa-5
DJ-11
Spieth-5
Bryson-8

So its not like he's trailing everyone majorly in wins.  Also, in that time frame, he has 5 major top 5s, 3 more top 10s, and 3 top 15s. 

He's really damn good.  He wasn't #1 cause of some arbitrary ranking, its cause he's consistently performing even if he doesn't win every damn tournament.

Correct.

But when most of those guys spent their times at the top of the rankings thats when they were stock piling their wins.

Spieth is a shell of himself now. Rahm is clearly better. But when Spieth was put on a pedestal the guy was raking in wins.

Scheffler now. Dude is a machine. Hes consistent and has 4 wins.

Again, not saying Rahm is bad. I even said the reason why hes been ranked where he is is due to consistency to always finish well.

I am talking him strictly as a winner. Guy is always regarded as a clear front runner to doesnt get it done.

Rahm should be the odds on favorite every tournament(outside of Scheffler right now) if the bet is to finish top 10.
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

JWags85

Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on July 14, 2022, 01:40:40 PM
Correct.

But when most of those guys spent their times at the top of the rankings thats when they were stock piling their wins.

Spieth is a shell of himself now. Rahm is clearly better. But when Spieth was put on a pedestal the guy was raking in wins.

Scheffler now. Dude is a machine. Hes consistent and has 4 wins.

Again, not saying Rahm is bad. I even said the reason why hes been ranked where he is is due to consistency to always finish well.

I am talking him strictly as a winner. Guy is always regarded as a clear front runner to doesnt get it done.

Rahm should be the odds on favorite every tournament(outside of Scheffler right now) if the bet is to finish top 10.

You said he was "overrated as heck" which is based on nothing other than thinking he should win more tournaments.  After saying the moment is too big for him in the first round of a major.

People are big on him in every major cause he's almost always in the discussion on the leaderboard.  Far worse things to be and not the mark of someone overrated.  The number of players in the modern, post WW2 era who have won more than 1 major is like 50.  Its really damn hard.  He'll end up with 3-4 when all is said and done, which would put him in really heady company.

Spotcheck Billy

Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on July 14, 2022, 01:40:40 PM
Correct.

But when most of those guys spent their times at the top of the rankings thats when they were stock piling their wins.

Spieth is a shell of himself now. Rahm is clearly better. But when Spieth was put on a pedestal the guy was raking in wins.

Scheffler now. Dude is a machine. Hes consistent and has 4 wins.

Again, not saying Rahm is bad. I even said the reason why hes been ranked where he is is due to consistency to always finish well.

I am talking him strictly as a winner. Guy is always regarded as a clear front runner to doesnt get it done.

Rahm should be the odds on favorite every tournament(outside of Scheffler right now) if the bet is to finish top 10.

Reminds me of people saying that the Packers are over-rated because they can't ever win the NFC championship game.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on July 14, 2022, 01:40:40 PM
Correct.

But when most of those guys spent their times at the top of the rankings thats when they were stock piling their wins.

Spieth is a shell of himself now. Rahm is clearly better. But when Spieth was put on a pedestal the guy was raking in wins.

Scheffler now. Dude is a machine. Hes consistent and has 4 wins.

Again, not saying Rahm is bad. I even said the reason why hes been ranked where he is is due to consistency to always finish well.

I am talking him strictly as a winner. Guy is always regarded as a clear front runner to doesnt get it done.

Rahm should be the odds on favorite every tournament(outside of Scheffler right now) if the bet is to finish top 10.

He hasn't been as good in 2022 as previous years and his putter is part of the problem, not the pressure of the tournament
Guster is for Lovers

MuggsyB


Uncle Rico

Quote from: MuggsyB on July 14, 2022, 08:11:06 PM
Who is Dinwiddie?

A name we often see near the lead at an Open that we'll never see again
Guster is for Lovers

MuggsyB

Quote from: Uncle Rico on July 14, 2022, 08:31:09 PM
A name we often see near the lead at an Open that we'll never see again

I would think Rory finds a way to get this one.  He looks extremely comfortable out there. 

MuggsyB

I never liked Lee Westwood.   I dunno why but he annoys me.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: MuggsyB on July 14, 2022, 08:35:11 PM
I never liked Lee Westwood.   I dunno why but he annoys me.

He's very stupid.  When asked what his favorite book is, he said nine because he doesn't read . 

He lost all his money in his divorce and he's a choker when it matters most.  That putt he missed at Hazeltine in the '16 Ryder Cup against Ryan Moore was one of the worst putts in Ryder Cup history.
Guster is for Lovers

MuggsyB

Quote from: Uncle Rico on July 14, 2022, 09:32:48 PM
He's very stupid.  When asked what his favorite book is, he said nine because he doesn't read . 

He lost all his money in his divorce and he's a choker when it matters most.  That putt he missed at Hazeltine in the '16 Ryder Cup against Ryan Moore was one of the worst putts in Ryder Cup history.

He reminds me of the deputy in Mississippi Burning.  You know the guy who Hackman has a little chat with at the barber shop?  "You got a stupid looking smile don't you pal? Can you see it?"  :)

That guy is also a great actor by the way.  He was Billy Bibbit in Cuckoo's Nest. 

Herman Cain

Scores are low so far Today. Cut may be below par .
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

MuggsyB

#94
Quote from: Herman Cain on July 15, 2022, 06:46:30 AM
Scores are low so far Today. Cut may be below par .

Yep.  I may not be too far off with my -20 prediction.

Rain with little wind means a 61 might be out there.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: Uncle Rico on July 14, 2022, 09:32:48 PM
He's very stupid.  When asked what his favorite book is, he said nine because he doesn't read . 

He lost all his money in his divorce and he's a choker when it matters most.  That putt he missed at Hazeltine in the '16 Ryder Cup against Ryan Moore was one of the worst putts in Ryder Cup history.

So not a big fan either, eh?

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Lennys Tap on July 15, 2022, 08:01:56 AM
So not a big fan either, eh?

Nope.  He was one of that wave of European Ryder cuppers who liked to talk about how the Ryder Cup was bigger than majors, mostly because he always came up short in majors.  Had rabbit ears, too, at the Ryder Cup.  Bit of a whiner about that, despite his "love" of the event. 

Liked to take veiled shots at the Tour like skipping the Players when he was number one in the world or close to number one.  He happily took the money the events paid out, however. 
Guster is for Lovers

MuggsyB

Look out for Cam Smith.  Cantlay is also in the mix.

MuggsyB

I know it's Tiger Woods but showing literally all of his drives and every shot of his at this juncture is pretty silly and bad for the viewer. 

cheebs09

Quote from: MuggsyB on July 15, 2022, 08:25:18 AM
I know it's Tiger Woods but showing literally all of his drives and every shot of his at this juncture is pretty silly and bad for the viewer.

Eh. It's how all these tournaments always go and it could be his last time playing competitively at St. Andrews. Using the term competitively loosely.

I just turned it on and he was limping pretty bad. Even if somehow the golf was there, it feels like his body wouldn't hold up for 4 rounds.

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