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Author Topic: Happy July 4th Y'all  (Read 16819 times)

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Happy July 4th Y'all
« on: July 02, 2022, 03:21:26 PM »
I always count my blessings at this time of year and reflect how fortunate I am to not only be here, but also to live in a country of golden opportunities, while remembering and honoring those who paved the way. Enjoy, hey?


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Re: Happy July 4th Y'all
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2022, 03:37:37 PM »
that's a big dittos atcha doc-free to golf any time we want.  to all the scoopers out there celebrating this fine day-count your digits before ya blow off the celebratory fire works.  i'm just watching
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Re: Happy July 4th Y'all
« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2022, 03:41:00 PM »
Went to the Richard Bong memorial with nephew who is a major in AF. Spent a good 2 hours there.  Very moving.

One of the most riveting items was a SS death head ring. The stories that ring could tell about evil it was a part of.

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Re: Happy July 4th Y'all
« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2022, 03:59:31 PM »
We’re all lucky to be citizens of this country. On this weekend, I’m grateful for many things, including that we can express freely how much Lee Greenwood sucks.

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Re: Happy July 4th Y'all
« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2022, 04:19:35 PM »
About 15 years ago, my wife and I attended a Citizenship Ceremony on the 4th of July at Monticello, Thomas Jefferson's home. Actor Sam Waterson was the speaker, and he delivered a stunningly beautiful, crafted speech to the immigrants and attendees. It was a very moving experience. Watching the faces of the new citizens as they took their oaths was unforgettable.
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Re: Happy July 4th Y'all
« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2022, 05:09:16 PM »
I am thankful every day to have born in the USA and never take for granted I was blessed with this wonderful gift. I am equally thankful that my four children feel blessed and love and respect the folks that sacrificed to build the greatest country in the world.

Happy 4th of July weekend to all the scoopers!!

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Re: Happy July 4th Y'all
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2022, 06:20:56 PM »
Thomas Jefferson passed this mortal coil on the 4th of July in 1826.  His words remain wise

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Re: Happy July 4th Y'all
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2022, 06:29:23 PM »
We’re all lucky to be citizens of this country. On this weekend, I’m grateful for many things, including that we can express freely how much Lee Greenwood sucks.

Now this makes me proud to be an American.

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Re: Happy July 4th Y'all
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2022, 08:41:43 PM »
I always count my blessings at this time of year and reflect how fortunate I am to not only be here, but also to live in a country of golden opportunities, while remembering and honoring those who paved the way. Enjoy, hey?


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Re: Happy July 4th Y'all
« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2022, 10:14:46 PM »
Now this makes me proud to be an American.

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Re: Happy July 4th Y'all
« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2022, 10:15:59 PM »
About 15 years ago, my wife and I attended a Citizenship Ceremony on the 4th of July at Monticello, Thomas Jefferson's home. Actor Sam Waterson was the speaker, and he delivered a stunningly beautiful, crafted speech to the immigrants and attendees. It was a very moving experience. Watching the faces of the new citizens as they took their oaths was unforgettable.

Fantastic Scoop Snoop!  Happy 4th to all.

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Re: Happy July 4th Y'all
« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2022, 07:19:12 AM »
Happy 4th!  Be safe out there.
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Re: Happy July 4th Y'all
« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2022, 11:10:44 AM »
We’re all lucky to be citizens of this country. On this weekend, I’m grateful for many things, including that we can express freely how much Lee Greenwood sucks.

I will third this.

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Re: Happy July 4th Y'all
« Reply #13 on: July 03, 2022, 01:56:15 PM »
Having seen how the other side lives, I can second the sentiment in here. To be poor in the United States means to be middle class in many parts of the world.

I was reminded today of the Sunday after we returned from Ukraine with our son. As I went to Mass, I looked over and noticed the American flag hanging on the side of the sanctuary. All I could think at that time was Thank God!

I had the same feeling today as I saw our flag again!

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Re: Happy July 4th Y'all
« Reply #14 on: July 03, 2022, 07:48:03 PM »
I am thankful every day to have born in the USA and never take for granted I was blessed with this wonderful gift. I am equally thankful that my four children feel blessed and love and respect the folks that sacrificed to build the greatest country in the world.

Happy 4th of July weekend to all the scoopers!!

Can’t agree more. Spending a couple of weeks behind the Iron Curtain in the 70s imprinted this on my brain.

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Re: Happy July 4th Y'all
« Reply #15 on: July 03, 2022, 09:25:56 PM »
Thomas Jefferson passed this mortal coil on the 4th of July in 1826.  His words remain wise

“Our civil rights have no dependence on our religious opinions any more than our opinions in physics or geometry...”

...The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America, When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.

He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.

He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.

He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.

He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.

He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.

He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.

He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.

He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.

He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.

He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:

For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:

For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:

For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:

For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences

For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:

For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:

For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.

He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.

He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.

He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.

He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.

He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our Brittish brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.

We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.

Jefferson may not have been a Christian, but he did believe in a higher power than the State. He was no atheist.

« Last Edit: July 03, 2022, 09:27:46 PM by muwarrior69 »

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Re: Happy July 4th Y'all
« Reply #17 on: July 03, 2022, 09:55:10 PM »
Have a great 4th of July everyone.  In God We Trust.

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Re: Happy July 4th Y'all
« Reply #18 on: July 03, 2022, 10:10:02 PM »
...The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America, When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.

He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.

He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.

He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.

He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.

He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.

He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.

He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.

He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.

He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.

He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:

For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:

For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:

For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:

For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences

For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:

For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:

For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.

He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.

He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.

He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.

He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.

He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our Brittish brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.

We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.

Jefferson may not have been a Christian, but he did believe in a higher power than the State. He was no atheist.

“In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own.”

“Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law.”

“Where the preamble declares, that coercion is a departure from the plan of the holy author of our religion, an amendment was proposed by inserting "Jesus Christ," so that it would read "A departure from the plan of Jesus Christ, the holy author of our religion;" the insertion was rejected by the great majority, in proof that they meant to comprehend, within the mantle of its protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mohammedan, the Hindoo and Infidel of every denomination.”

“Among the sayings and discourses imputed to him (i.e. Jesus) by his biographers, I find many passages of fine imagination, correct morality, and of the most lovely benevolence; and others again of so much ignorance, so much absurdity, so much untruth, charlatanism, and imposture, as to pronounce it impossible that such contradictions should have proceeded from the same being.”


“Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legislative powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between church and State.”

Government is not to impose the religious beliefs of one sect, but to allow the many religions of the world to worship and congregate freely within the borders of its land.  Imposing the religion of the few on the whole by law or decree is an anathema to those who founded this nation.  No argument can be made that says else.

Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

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Re: Happy July 4th Y'all
« Reply #19 on: July 04, 2022, 09:49:18 AM »
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

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Re: Happy July 4th Y'all
« Reply #20 on: July 04, 2022, 11:59:35 AM »
Not such a great 4th in Highland Park.
Hooray America.

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Re: Happy July 4th Y'all
« Reply #21 on: July 04, 2022, 12:05:57 PM »
Man, I just got back from the Elgin parade (my daughter was in it) and saw the Highland Park news. Damn.

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Re: Happy July 4th Y'all
« Reply #22 on: July 04, 2022, 12:19:48 PM »
We've exceeded 250 mass shootings this year on Independence Day. Nice job, America!

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Re: Happy July 4th Y'all
« Reply #23 on: July 04, 2022, 12:36:25 PM »
We've exceeded 250 mass shootings this year on Independence Day. Nice job, America!

Maybe it is time to go back to the gun laws common immediately after this nation was founded, including:

1. Confiscation of weapons from people who do not swear loyalty to the US.
2. Universal gun registration.
3. Banning all weapons in public spaces.

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Re: Happy July 4th Y'all
« Reply #24 on: July 04, 2022, 12:45:33 PM »
Maybe it is time to go back to the gun laws common immediately after this nation was founded, including:

1. Confiscation of weapons from people who do not swear loyalty to the US.
2. Universal gun registration.
3. Banning all weapons in public spaces.
Number 1 sounds good.
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