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lawdog77

Quote from: MU82 on May 13, 2023, 10:33:06 PM
That's fair.

Reading on in this thread, though, I have to admit I'm surprised with how easily you seem throw around "elite."
Has "elite" replaced "all-timer"?

4everwarriors

Y'all feelin' it fore #31 if he craps da bed today and gets chit canned, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

MuggsyB

Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 14, 2023, 07:34:33 AM
Y'all feelin' it fore #31 if he craps da bed today and gets chit canned, hey?

His close out record as a coach is not exactly reassuring.  I believe he's lost 8 straight in the 2nd rd. 

MU82

The Athletic is saying the Warriors intend to sign Green (who has a $27.6M player option for 2023-24) to a new multi-year deal, adding to an already burdensome luxury tax.

When things are right, he obviously has big value. Green is their connect-the-dots guy on offense, and their aggressiveness tone-setter on D and the boards. And he and Curry are team leaders with the ear of both Kerr and upper management.

But when things are wrong, as they are a little too often for a big-money guy in a leadership position, his volatile temperament and selfish actions hurt the team.

He'll be 34 a year from now, and you're gonna give him a guaranteed $30M-35M annually for multiple seasons? But if you don't, can you contend for anything?

Nobody ever said it was easy to construct a championship-caliber roster.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

MuggsyB

Quote from: MU82 on May 14, 2023, 08:08:50 AM
The Athletic is saying the Warriors intend to sign Green (who has a $27.6M player option for 2023-24) to a new multi-year deal, adding to an already burdensome luxury tax.

When things are right, he obviously has big value. Green is their connect-the-dots guy on offense, and their aggressiveness tone-setter on D and the boards. And he and Curry are team leaders with the ear of both Kerr and upper management.

But when things are wrong, as they are a little too often for a big-money guy in a leadership position, his volatile temperament and selfish actions hurt the team.

He'll be 34 a year from now, and you're gonna give him a guaranteed $30M-35M annually for multiple seasons? But if you don't, can you contend for anything?

Nobody ever said it was easy to construct a championship-caliber roster.

They've got serious probs.  They have Klay for another 43m next season and the Poole contract is a disaster.  I love Klay but he's just not the same player at all. I think signing Green for that money would be a big mistake and resigning Klay to a max deal after this year would be a bigger mistake.  That said I believe tbe cap is going up so maybe they can unload Poole?  They need a big badly and Curry needs a consistent 2nd scorer.   

pbiflyer

Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 14, 2023, 07:34:33 AM
Y'all feelin' it fore #31 if he craps da bed today and gets chit canned, hey?
Almost seems like you are hoping for that. Strange for a "Marquette fan."

4everwarriors

Eye kould sea it, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"


4everwarriors

It ain't gonna end well for this punk. Too immature to handle the bread and fame. Should get off the fire water and other intoxicants. Change the posse too, aina?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Pakuni

Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 14, 2023, 10:26:26 AM
It ain't gonna end well for this punk. Too immature to handle the bread and fame. Should get off the fire water and other intoxicants. Change the posse too, aina?

Just exercising his rights, aina?

MuggsyB


4everwarriors

Quote from: Pakuni on May 14, 2023, 10:58:38 AM
Just exercising his rights, aina?



Don't give a chit what he does to himself or his other punk ass groupies so long as the innocents aren't harmed by his actions. Just sayin', the kid's an idiot and will likely choke on his bread instead of doing something productive with it and enjoying life, aina?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

MuggsyB

Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 14, 2023, 11:03:18 AM


Don't give a chit what he does to himself or his other punk ass groupies so long as the innocents aren't harmed by his actions. Just sayin', the kid's an idiot and will likely choke on his bread instead of doing something productive with it and enjoying life, aina?

What do you think the NBA will do about this one?

4everwarriors

Nothin', he's one of their future megastars, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

pbiflyer

Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 14, 2023, 11:27:47 AM
Nothin', he's one of their future megastars, hey?



Ja Morant suspended from all Grizzlies activities after Instagram Live video shows him with gun in car

4everwarriors

There are no Grizzly activities. Probably coulda suspended him from those activities without pay too. So, as I said, nothin', hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Jay Bee

Ban guns

Any women the Bucks may be looking at for the HC gig?
The portal is NOT closed.

MuggsyB

Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 14, 2023, 11:42:24 AM
There are no Grizzly activities. Probably coulda suspended him from those activities without pay too. So, as I said, nothin', hey?

You have been hired as NBA commissioner.   What is your detailed plan with Mr. Morant to begin the 2023-24 season?  Clearly he didn't learn the first time. 

tower912

Send him to the Curt Schilling school of charm and media relations.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Jockey

Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 14, 2023, 11:03:18 AM


Don't give a chit what he does to himself or his other punk ass groupies so long as the innocents aren't harmed by his actions. Just sayin', the kid's an idiot and will likely choke on his bread instead of doing something productive with it and enjoying life, aina?

How many posts are you gonna have about Morant? This is right in your wheelhouse when a black athlete does something bad.

Jockey

Quote from: MuggsyB on May 14, 2023, 11:24:19 AM
What do you think the NBA will do about this one?

Should be a lengthy suspension. I'm talking at least 25 games. Maybe half a season.

There are so many great young players in the NBA right now who are also great human beings. The NBA can't let this kind of activity demean all of the progress they have made developing great players and people.


Jockey

Quote from: JWags85 on May 13, 2023, 04:57:08 PM
FWIW, I would call Draymond an elite rebounder.  Just like Charles Barkley was at a similar size.  Curry also an excellent rebounder for his size and position.  Underrated part of what made that team so unreal.

Agree on all this.

MuggsyB

Quote from: Jockey on May 14, 2023, 12:13:00 PM
Should be a lengthy suspension. I'm talking at least 25 games. Maybe half a season.

There are so many great young players in the NBA right now who are also great human beings. The NBA can't let this kind of activity demean all of the progress they have made developing great players and people.

I didn't realize you knew all of these players personally.  How would you know what kind of people they are or were for that matter?  There weren't great people in the NBA before now because the NBA "develops" them?  Also, doing something really dumb (twice) doesn't necessarily make you a bad person.  As far as a 25 game suspension or more?  I suppose it's possible to set some precedent.  Of course Draymond Green assaulted a fellow player and the NBA and GS did nothing. 

4everwarriors

Quote from: MuggsyB on May 14, 2023, 11:54:25 AM
You have been hired as NBA commissioner.   What is your detailed plan with Mr. Morant to begin the 2023-24 season?  Clearly he didn't learn the first time.



Kolek 'im, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

MuggsyB

Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 14, 2023, 12:57:46 PM


Kolek 'im, hey?

You mean physically get rid of him??  For how long??

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