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forgetful

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on May 10, 2023, 06:16:20 AM
Or you don't understand how the game is supposed to be officiated - which your posting history here suggests is actually the case.

We are all well aware that you are incapable of seeing any viewpoints outside of your own, you don't need to keep reminding us.

tower912

Brunson and Grimes play 48.  Metaphorical hat tip to both.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

rocket surgeon

Quote from: forgetful on May 10, 2023, 09:45:08 PM
We are all well aware that you are incapable of seeing any viewpoints outside of your own, you don't need to keep reminding us.

  bravo at ya forget-remember this guy spends too much time shaving below the adams apple and when rattle snakes bite him, they die...he's scoops "most interesting dude" in his own mind and loves it

  i've watched A LOT of NBA ball over the years.  it has evolved into a cross between rugby, water polo and chess with a round ball of course.  i love when they go to the monitor to contest a call.  they can justify just about anything.  in super slow motion, everything is moving.  they can see  a guys butt cheeks scrunch up right before the contact

  what and when is it a foul?

traveling still isn't called except when...they call it.  tell me, every time a guy receives the ball at the top of the key, he takes like 3 steps and what??  double dribble? hahaha blocking shots at the rim is a war

it's just so hard to discern but for the most part, i enjoy it.  i appreciate these guys abilities despite all that
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

JWags85

I watched a Real Madrid Euroleague playoff game yesterday and some of Markus' game today and it's INCREDIBLE contrasting it to NBA ball, especially playoff ball.  There is such a massive aversion to extending the game.  It's wild.  RM's opponent was down 4 missed a shot with 15 seconds left and just packed it in, didn't attempt to foul. I've seen other games where a team is down 4 or 5 with 30-35 seconds left and they let the opponent just milk the clock and shoot with 10ish seconds left hoping to get a rebound and score before fouling. It's not just sporadic, it's very common.

Then, as in the case with Baskonia today, teams that are scoring at will or at a strong clip will just stop looking to score with 6-7 min left if they are up more than 5.  It's shockingly common to see a game with an average of 43-44 pts a quarter through 3 have a 4th quarter with 30 pts scored, it's just bizarre.

I really like elements of the international game when it applies to the Olympics or FIBA WC, but the Euro mentality to late game strategy is grating.

MU82

Quote from: JWags85 on May 11, 2023, 01:44:24 PM
I watched a Real Madrid Euroleague playoff game yesterday and some of Markus' game today and it's INCREDIBLE contrasting it to NBA ball, especially playoff ball.  There is such a massive aversion to extending the game.  It's wild.  RM's opponent was down 4 missed a shot with 15 seconds left and just packed it in, didn't attempt to foul. I've seen other games where a team is down 4 or 5 with 30-35 seconds left and they let the opponent just milk the clock and shoot with 10ish seconds left hoping to get a rebound and score before fouling. It's not just sporadic, it's very common.

Then, as in the case with Baskonia today, teams that are scoring at will or at a strong clip will just stop looking to score with 6-7 min left if they are up more than 5.  It's shockingly common to see a game with an average of 43-44 pts a quarter through 3 have a 4th quarter with 30 pts scored, it's just bizarre.

I really like elements of the international game when it applies to the Olympics or FIBA WC, but the Euro mentality to late game strategy is grating.

I've noticed that too, Wags.

And NBA coaches are far less likely to extend games than their college counterparts. A college team can be down 12 with 25 seconds left, and they'll still be hacking, whereas an NBA team would just play out the clock because they know it's over. It's actually one of the things I like better about the NBA.
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lawdog77

Quote from: MU82 on May 11, 2023, 02:40:05 PM
I've noticed that too, Wags.

And NBA coaches are far less likely to extend games than their college counterparts. A college team can be down 12 with 25 seconds left, and they'll still be hacking, whereas an NBA team would just play out the clock because they know it's over. It's actually one of the things I like better about the NBA.
The college coaches are trying to tighten the score up to improve their analytic numbers. Sucks, but that's what it is.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: lawdog77 on May 11, 2023, 02:46:07 PM
The college coaches are trying to tighten the score up to improve their analytic numbers. Sucks, but that's what it is.

Eh, they've been doing it for years
Guster is for Lovers

The Sultan

I think they do it just to get another possession to run offense. Every moment is teachable.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MuggsyB

Really surprised Boston is favored today. 

Jockey


Jockey

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on May 11, 2023, 04:37:33 PM
I think they do it just to get another possession to run offense. Every moment is teachable.

Maybe sometimes. I think the majority of the time it is for their egos - so they can show everyone how hard they are coaching.

I'd love to see colleges adopt the NBA timeout rules. Limit of 2 timeouts in the last 2 minutes which are then mainly used to advance the ball to half court.

cheebs09

I also think a college team is more prone to errors, so the likelihood of a comeback is a little higher.

4everwarriors

Quote from: MuggsyB on May 11, 2023, 04:46:38 PM
Really surprised Boston is favored today.



Bookies don't no ball, aina?
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MuggsyB


Uncle Rico

Quote from: MuggsyB on May 11, 2023, 07:41:33 PM
Or maybe they do?  I dunno.

Given the history of Doc Rivers teams choking, it's not a stretch
Guster is for Lovers

MuggsyB

Quote from: Uncle Rico on May 11, 2023, 07:47:21 PM
Given the history of Doc Rivers teams choking, it's not a stretch

True.

tower912

I think they practice the two minute drill when there is no hope in order to be ready for the future game where it could matter.   So the players are used to playing that way against actual opponents.   Plus, you never know when you might learn/find something.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

MuggsyB

Tatum has been brutal.  Keeping Philly in the game. 

MuggsyB

I'm surprised Sam hasn't been inserted for Tatum.  He could still compose a letter on the bench?  1-13????

lawdog77

Quote from: JWags85 on May 11, 2023, 01:44:24 PM
I watched a Real Madrid Euroleague playoff game yesterday and some of Markus' game today and it's INCREDIBLE contrasting it to NBA ball, especially playoff ball.  There is such a massive aversion to extending the game.  It's wild.  RM's opponent was down 4 missed a shot with 15 seconds left and just packed it in, didn't attempt to foul. I've seen other games where a team is down 4 or 5 with 30-35 seconds left and they let the opponent just milk the clock and shoot with 10ish seconds left hoping to get a rebound and score before fouling. It's not just sporadic, it's very common.

Then, as in the case with Baskonia today, teams that are scoring at will or at a strong clip will just stop looking to score with 6-7 min left if they are up more than 5.  It's shockingly common to see a game with an average of 43-44 pts a quarter through 3 have a 4th quarter with 30 pts scored, it's just bizarre.

I really like elements of the international game when it applies to the Olympics or FIBA WC, but the Euro mentality to late game strategy is grating.
Speaking of Markus he scored 25 in the win against Henry's team. Hank scored 8

MuggsyB


MuggsyB


MuggsyB

This probable loss could cost Doc his job? 

Jockey

Quote from: MuggsyB on May 11, 2023, 08:16:09 PM
I'm surprised Sam hasn't been inserted for Tatum.  He could still compose a letter on the bench?  1-13????

For a guy with lots of crazy takes, this may be the goofiest ever.

wadesworld

Harden can't play in closeout games for his team or his opponent.

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