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MuggsyB

The NBA came out with their two minute report and stated that the Tatum play where he essentially shoved Tyrese Maxey to create space was a correct no call.  If Maxey had fallen down would have they called it an offensive foul?  This play illustrates part of the problem.  Why are defenders or any player being rewarded for falling down/flopping?   So if Kyle Lowry defended Tatum on that play he probably would have rolled out of the arena.  I don't think it's that freaking difficult to see the difference between a clear offensive shove and foul vs a flop.  And these players flop constantly on both ends of the floor and are rewarded for it.  This is manipulative and infuriating to watch. 

tower912

I think the pendulum has swung excessively far toward the player on offense.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

MuggsyB

#2402
Quote from: tower912 on May 09, 2023, 11:48:25 AM
I think the pendulum has swung excessively far toward the player on offense.

The officiating is just bad on both ends of the floor. 

MuggsyB

#2403
I hate to say it but the Lakers may be the favorites after last night's debacle. Their auxiliary players have been considerably better than the remaining teams.  Their overall defense also has been more consistent. 

Meanwhile the Warriors are not beyond criticism.  I thought last night their decision making as a group, when the game was on the line, was absolutely atrocious.  And it starts with Curry, Thompson, and Green.

I thought Steph wore down last night and the Lakers were smart to attack him.  However, the two threes he took (down one) were absurd and beyond poor percentage shots.  The 30 foot step-back vs Davis was beyond idiotic. 

Thompson's two threes before that were even worse.  Early in tbe shot clock heaves with zero chance of success.  Then you have the drive play with Green at the end.  WTF?  No one on the Lakers was concerned with him shooting the ball at all, of course they knew he was looking to pass. 

Let's also not forget what happened just before that when Steph took that wild triple.  Green got an offensive rebound, 5 feet from the basket, with no one near him except Schroeder and immediately flinged the ball out.  Look at the rim take one dribble make a damn lay-up! 

Moving on, Jordan Poole has been an absolute disaster in these playoffs.  He's been so bad Kerr couldn't even play him last night.  His shooting stats are atrocious and he can't guard a chair.  Good luck unloading hin or his $123 million dollar contract.   

Lastly, as for Steve Kerr, I thought his whining about the officiating was unusually ridiculous in light of his specific gripes.  He's bitching about moving screens and flopping from the Lakers?  As if the Warriors don't do this constantly as well and have during his tenure?  Please. 

Uncle Rico

Quote from: MuggsyB on May 09, 2023, 05:05:26 PM
I hate to say it but the Lakers may be the favorites after last night's debacle. Their auxiliary players have been considerably better than the remaining teams.  Their overall defense also has been more consistent. 

Meanwhile the Warriors are not beyond criticism.  I thought last night their decision making as a group, when the game was on the line, was absolutely atrocious.  And it starts with Curry, Thompson, and Green.

I thought Steph wore down last night and the Lakers were smart to attack him.  However, the two threes he took (down one) were absurd and beyond poor percentage shots.  The 30 foot step-back vs Davis was beyond idiotic. 

Thompson's two threes before that were even worse.  Early in tbe shot clock heaves with zero chance of success.  Then you have the drive play with Green at the end.  WTF?  No one on the Lakers was concerned with him shooting the ball at all, of course they knew he was looking to pass. 

Let's also not forget what happened just before that when Steph took that wild triple.  Green got an offensive rebound, 5 feet from the basket, with no one near him except Schroeder and immediately flinged the ball out.  Look at the rim take one dribble make a damn lay-up! 

Moving on, Jordan Poole has been an absolute disaster in these playoffs.  He's been so bad Kerr couldn't even play him last night.  His shooting stats are atrocious and he can't guard a chair.  Good luck unloading hin or his $123 million dollar contract.   

Lastly, as for Steve Kerr, I thought his whining about the officiating was unusually ridiculous in light of his specific gripes.  He's bitching about moving screens and flopping from the Lakers?  As if the Warriors don't do this constantly as well and have during his tenure?  Please.

Bucks will take Kerr
Guster is for Lovers

MuggsyB

Quote from: Uncle Rico on May 09, 2023, 05:12:26 PM
Bucks will take Kerr

He's a good coach but I don't see him leaving while Curry is on the roster.

MU82

I definitely expect the Lakers to win the series, Muggs. Even if the Warriors have the best player on the floor (as some believe), the Lakers have the next two ... and those two are too physically dominant, tall and skilled for GS. And I agree with you about the impressive performances LA is getting from its role players.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

MuggsyB

Boston is in enormous trouble.  I didn't see this coming at all.

MU82

Quote from: MuggsyB on May 09, 2023, 07:29:53 PM
Boston is in enormous trouble.  I didn't see this coming at all.

Several of us never thought the Celtics were the unbeatable juggernaut you kept claiming they were, and I don't think they'll win the title.

But it's only a 9-point halftime lead for the Sixers. That's practically a tie game in the NBA.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

MuggsyB

Quote from: MU82 on May 09, 2023, 07:51:19 PM
Several of us never thought the Celtics were the unbeatable juggernaut you kept claiming they were, and I don't think they'll win the title.

But it's only a 9-point halftime lead for the Sixers. That's practically a tie game in the NBA.

This game looks over to me.  Although the refs have given Boston 22 free throws in 28 mins. 

Skatastrophy

Man I would love to see an Embiid/Jimmy series

MuggsyB

Quote from: Skatastrophy on May 09, 2023, 08:27:45 PM
Man I would love to see an Embiid/Jimmy series

It's likely  gonna happen.  What an utter dud performance by Boston.

tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Skatastrophy

Quote from: tower912 on May 09, 2023, 08:52:48 PM
Sam got some.run


Yeah you know the Celtics are getting worked when they put in the scrubs during crunch time.

Embiid is a dog playing through his knee injury

MU82

Glad to see the Celtics spit the bit. I'd love to see the Sixers wrap it up in Game 6.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

MuggsyB

Quote from: MU82 on May 09, 2023, 09:42:44 PM
Glad to see the Celtics spit the bit. I'd love to see the Sixers wrap it up in Game 6.

I'm gonna book that. 

MuggsyB

Who will the Bucks hire? 

forgetful

Quote from: MuggsyB on May 09, 2023, 11:43:17 AM
The NBA came out with their two minute report and stated that the Tatum play where he essentially shoved Tyrese Maxey to create space was a correct no call.  If Maxey had fallen down would have they called it an offensive foul?  This play illustrates part of the problem.  Why are defenders or any player being rewarded for falling down/flopping?   So if Kyle Lowry defended Tatum on that play he probably would have rolled out of the arena.  I don't think it's that freaking difficult to see the difference between a clear offensive shove and foul vs a flop.  And these players flop constantly on both ends of the floor and are rewarded for it.  This is manipulative and infuriating to watch.

Like the end of the Heat/Bucks game, this highlights that the NBA is full of it on these "two minute reports."


MuggsyB

Quote from: forgetful on May 09, 2023, 10:26:03 PM
Like the end of the Heat/Bucks game, this highlights that the NBA is full of it on these "two minute reports."

Ya.....we agree 100% here.  What a bunch of utter nonsense.  Who is the mastermind behind these two minute reports and why do they exist at all?  What's the point?

MuggsyB

Who is the strongest guy in the NBA?  Steven Adams? 

The Sultan

Quote from: forgetful on May 09, 2023, 10:26:03 PM
Like the end of the Heat/Bucks game, this highlights that the NBA is full of it on these "two minute reports."

Or you don't understand how the game is supposed to be officiated - which your posting history here suggests is actually the case.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Skatastrophy

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on May 10, 2023, 06:16:20 AM
Or you don't understand how the game is supposed to be officiated - which your posting history here suggests is actually the case.

That can't possibly be it. We're ALL basketball experts on scoop.

MuggsyB

Why exactly is J.J. Reddick getting an interview with Totonto?  There seem to be a bunch of quality assistant coaches that don't seem to get these opportunities enough. 

cheebs09

Quote from: MuggsyB on May 10, 2023, 05:24:59 PM
Why exactly is J.J. Reddick getting an interview with Totonto?  There seem to be a bunch of quality assistant coaches that don't seem to get these opportunities enough.

They saw how great Jeff Saturday worked out for the Colts.

MuggsyB

I've been wrong pretty much every game so I'll say the Lakers close this out.  :)

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