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Author Topic: 2022-23 NBA Thread  (Read 20548 times)

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Re: 2022-23 NBA Thread
« Reply #350 on: September 26, 2022, 04:57:09 PM »
Probably a huge Friday and Big Momma’s House fan

Or someone wanting to see Will Smith slap somebody again.

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« Reply #351 on: September 26, 2022, 06:01:12 PM »
Classic Hauser move

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Re: 2022-23 NBA Thread
« Reply #352 on: September 26, 2022, 07:24:38 PM »
Thank God hoops is back in a few weeks.  This has the potential to be one of the best NBA seasons I can remember if Kawhi and Zion are healthy.  Do the Bucks have enough or should they try to get something for Grayson Allen?

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« Reply #353 on: September 28, 2022, 08:12:51 AM »
Nash said he "never thought that was 100%," about Durant demanding Nash be fired. As if Durant thinking he was only 98% sure he wanted Nash fired was a good thing.

Then, predictably, Nash blamed the media "fighting for clicks" rather than the inability of him and Durant to get on the same page.
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« Reply #354 on: September 28, 2022, 08:28:53 AM »
Thank God hoops is back in a few weeks.  This has the potential to be one of the best NBA seasons I can remember if Kawhi and Zion are healthy.  Do the Bucks have enough or should they try to get something for Grayson Allen?


The Bucks are largely fine right now. See what shakes out as the deadline nears.
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Re: 2022-23 NBA Thread
« Reply #355 on: September 28, 2022, 11:06:46 AM »

The Bucks are largely fine right now. See what shakes out as the deadline nears.

Agreed. The best thing that the Bucks could get for Grayson Allen is a high performing Grayson Allen.

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« Reply #356 on: September 28, 2022, 11:21:22 AM »
Agreed. The best thing that the Bucks could get for Grayson Allen is a high performing Grayson Allen.

Yes.  Grayson is totally fine.  He got exposed in the Playoffs because he (along with Jrue) had to do more than they are capable with Khris being out.  If Khris, Jrue, or Giannis are injured in the Playoffs, the Bucks won't win the title.  If they are healthy, they're as good of a bet as any team.  With those three healthy, you can throw Wes in for Grayson when teams like the C's are trying to pick on him defensively and that weakness is shut off.

IF (huge if) Ingles is 90% of what he was two years ago come Playoff time, the Bucks depth and lineup flexibility is incredible.  I love the jumbo lineup of Jrue, Khris, Giannis, Bobby, and Brook that they found when Giannis went down in the Hawks series and figured out you could have both Bobby and Brook on the court together, but you can only do that for limited minutes.  I love the idea of a starting lineup of Jrue, Khris, Ingles, Giannis, and Brook.  4 shooters around Giannis, all 5 players are big for their positions, and all 5 defend.  Then you have Grayson and Bobby off the bench for scoring, Wes off the bench for defense, and Pat off the bench as a jack of all trades.  The lineup is awesome, especially if Ingles hits.  Mamu, George, Thenasis, MarJon just play blowout minutes.

Now if you can go get a Crowder or Clarkson (would be perfect) for cheap then you obviously do that.  Wish the Bucks had the tradeable contracts that the Pistons had to get Bogdonovic.  That was dirt cheap for him.  Pistons are going to be a really fun team.
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Re: 2022-23 NBA Thread
« Reply #357 on: September 29, 2022, 09:53:00 AM »
Seeing Jamal Cain pop up in Heat training camp vids has been fun (0:50 mark)

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« Reply #358 on: September 29, 2022, 09:56:38 AM »
Seeing Jamal Cain pop up in Heat training camp vids has been fun (0:50 mark)

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Hate to see the Heat shoot like that.  If only they could find a guy to pay $90M to be a knock down shooter.  He'd probably get a lot of run come Playoff time to open up the floor when you have defenders like Jimmy, Bam, and PJ on the court.
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Re: 2022-23 NBA Thread
« Reply #359 on: October 02, 2022, 06:15:14 PM »
Herro got four years, 130m.

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« Reply #360 on: October 02, 2022, 09:05:20 PM »
Herro got four years, 130m.

RJ's contract changed the game

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« Reply #361 on: October 02, 2022, 11:36:24 PM »
I know its preseason and its largely meaningless, but the Adelaide 36ers from the Aussie NBL just absolutely ran the Suns out of the gym.  Absolutely incredible.

The timing of games isn't great given the time zones, but the NBL is really fun basketball to watch.

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Re: 2022-23 NBA Thread
« Reply #362 on: October 04, 2022, 12:47:29 PM »
I see the Bucks are the favorite of the GMs to win the Title. I'd agree with them.

The Bulls are not in the top 6 of the East. I know others disagree but with Ball out (maybe for good) it is time for the Bulls to go full reset on the team. Their team will never be better than it was last year. I'd get as much as possible before the little talent they have gets older.

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« Reply #363 on: October 04, 2022, 01:37:00 PM »
NBA GMs also gave the reigning NBA Defensive Player the Year zero votes as the best defender in the NBA.  At least they realize that flopping is not playing good defense.
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Re: 2022-23 NBA Thread
« Reply #364 on: October 05, 2022, 07:23:38 AM »
By all accounts Wembanyama is the real deal.  Look out when he gains strength and like 25 lbs. 

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Re: 2022-23 NBA Thread
« Reply #365 on: October 05, 2022, 07:26:16 AM »
By all accounts Wembanyama is the real deal.  Look out when he gains strength and like 25 lbs.

Kid looked damn good last night
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« Reply #366 on: October 05, 2022, 07:38:32 AM »
Kid looked damn good last night
yep. I would take him over Holmgren every day of the week, and twice on Sunday.

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« Reply #367 on: October 05, 2022, 07:41:18 AM »
Kid looked damn good last night

I don't know if he's 7'2, 7'3, or 7'4 but let's start off with the fact that he has guard skills.  He can also run, drill thr triple, and erase shots at the rim.  Now you know why Utah and San Antonio are tanking.  The guy is smooth.  He's definitely gonna be fun to watch. 

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« Reply #368 on: October 05, 2022, 08:57:45 AM »
The way the NBA has set up its draft lottery system now, tanking is not a great strategy unless there are 3-5 players you really want. Because you could go 0-82 and very easily end up with the third or fourth pick.

https://www.nba.com/news/nba-draft-lottery-explainer
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« Reply #369 on: October 05, 2022, 09:32:06 AM »
The way the NBA has set up its draft lottery system now, tanking is not a great strategy unless there are 3-5 players you really want. Because you could go 0-82 and very easily end up with the third or fourth pick.

https://www.nba.com/news/nba-draft-lottery-explainer

It sounds like Henderson is also a stud and after the top 2 who knows.  I guess if you are in full rebuild you essentially tank enough to have a shot at Mr. Wembanyama?  I mean clearly Utah and San Antonio are trying to be as bad as possible. 

The ideal scenario for the NBA is for Zion to be fully healthy and Wembanyama to be the true Unicorn.  I'm rooting for Zion, he's a physical freak.  New Orleans and Denver could make some real noise this year.  I don't see the Lakers finishing above 8th.

My hope is Memphis to win the West and Milwaukee to win the East. 


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« Reply #370 on: October 05, 2022, 10:31:43 AM »
I'm just saying, Muggs, that tanking in the NBA is far less likely to result in you being able to draft The One than it was just a few years ago, and certainly back when the Bucks were able to get Kareem.

And also far different than it is in the NFL, where if you have the worst record you get the #1 pick. I'm not sure I'd ever go into an NFL season thinking, "Tank." But if my team was bad and got off to an 0-4 start or something, and if there's a no-doubt QB out there, tanking's a pretty easy decision.
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« Reply #371 on: October 05, 2022, 11:50:58 AM »
It's still an easy decision.  There are a very few select teams that have a real shot at winning an NBA title in any season.  If your ceiling is making a play in tournament, it'd be much smarter for you to tank than for you to go after every win.
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« Reply #372 on: October 05, 2022, 01:14:27 PM »
It's still an easy decision.  There are a very few select teams that have a real shot at winning an NBA title in any season.  If your ceiling is making a play in tournament, it'd be much smarter for you to tank than for you to go after every win.

Maybe. I guess it would depend if you're going for the play-in tournament on the way up, or on the way down.

In other words, is the play-in tournament your ceiling, or could it be a legitimate step to eventually contending for something meaningful?

But the fact is the fact: It's simply not as easy to tank for a difference-making superstar-to-be now as it was even in 2016, let alone in the '90s or '70s. Today, you can tank and very easily end up with the fourth-best player in a 1- or 2-player draft.
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« Reply #373 on: October 05, 2022, 01:27:20 PM »
It's still an easy decision.  There are a very few select teams that have a real shot at winning an NBA title in any season.  If your ceiling is making a play in tournament, it'd be much smarter for you to tank than for you to go after every win.
Agreed. Call it tanking or rebuilding or whatever, but it makes no sense to flounder around .500 for years so just rip off the bandage and start over if winning is a priority.

I've said before the Bulls are a perfect example of this. The will never be as good as they were last year, so start over. They have decent older talent that could net them draft assets in return.

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« Reply #374 on: October 05, 2022, 07:50:10 PM »
Scoot and Wemby are both S-Tier prospects.  Wemby is generational, but Scoot isn't far behind.

Amen Thompson could be a legit #1 pick in 70% of drafts.  And there are plenty of intriguing prospects throughout the lottery.

This draft has the potential to be in the same realm as 1984, 1996, and 2003.