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withoutbias

Quote from: pacearrow02 on June 24, 2022, 02:34:28 PM
Then vote to have your local elected officials pass laws making it legal in your state like it was, is, and will be in the majority of states despite the SC ruling today.  If you live in a state that doesn't now allow it then organize, vote, and demand change.

It's not the SC job to make legislation.

This SC didn't have to make legislation. They had to protect the Constitution. Like 4 of the justices that said they would do on this topic when they were sworn in.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: pacearrow02 on June 24, 2022, 02:34:28 PM
Then vote to have your local elected officials pass laws making it legal in your state like it was, is, and will be in the majority of states despite the SC ruling today.  If you live in a state that doesn't now allow it then organize, vote, and demand change.

It's not the SC job to make legislation.

"Tell me you don't understand jurisprudence without telling me you don't understand jurisprudence."

Again, literally anything they rule on can be arbitrarily overturned at the drop of a hat by a simple majority of Supreme Court Justices.

I don't care about your or anyone's political leaning, but that very statement should scare the living crap out of everyone.

wadesworld

Quote from: LAZER on June 24, 2022, 02:35:35 PM
This is what it's all about. Politics as sport without any type of regard for the people it affects and the shameful ways in which it was achieved. It's just another "win".

This is exactly it. Very sad.

pacearrow02

Quote from: WithoutBias on June 24, 2022, 02:36:55 PM
This SC didn't have to make legislation. They had to protect the Constitution. Like 4 of the justices that said they would do on this topic when they were sworn in.

That's not true.

pacearrow02

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on June 24, 2022, 02:37:00 PM
"Tell me you don't understand jurisprudence without telling me you don't understand jurisprudence."

Again, literally anything they rule on can be arbitrarily overturned at the drop of a hat by a simple majority of Supreme Court Justices.

I don't care about your or anyone's political leaning, but that very statement should scare the living crap out of everyone.

If it's unconstitutional yes they can overturn it, that's not scary....it's their job.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: pacearrow02 on June 24, 2022, 02:39:32 PM
If it's unconstitutional yes they can overturn it, that's not scary....it's their job.

You're in way over your head here kiddo, sit this one out.

pacearrow02

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on June 24, 2022, 02:40:14 PM
You're in way over your head here kiddo, sit this one out.

You're emotional right now.  Take a breath, bucko .

ZiggysFryBoy

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on June 24, 2022, 02:40:14 PM
You're in way over your head here kiddo, sit this one out.

Internet tough guy.

Put some sunscreen on and get to the capital square.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: pacearrow02 on June 24, 2022, 02:41:37 PM
You're emotional right now.  Take a breath, bucko .

I'm not emotional, you're frustrating to talk to because your comprehension level is that of a kid half your age.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on June 24, 2022, 02:43:09 PM
Internet tough guy.

Put some sunscreen on and get to the capital square.

As opposed to you, that's awfully rich.

Shouldn't you be there celebrating more death?

ZiggysFryBoy

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on June 24, 2022, 02:44:48 PM
As opposed to you, that's awfully rich.

Shouldn't you be there celebrating more death?

I don't celebrate death, fool.  You do.

Pakuni

Just as scary, the same justices issued a ruling this week that clears the way for cops to ignore Miranda without recourse.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on June 24, 2022, 02:46:46 PM
I don't celebrate death, fool.  You do.

Things which are not viable on their own are not alive and therefore cannot die.  You're here celebrating back alley abortions that will kill more desperate women.

ZiggysFryBoy

Quote from: Pakuni on June 24, 2022, 02:47:39 PM
Just as scary, the same justices issued a ruling this week that clears the way for cops to ignore Miranda without recourse.

I agree with this.  Not a good decision.

ZiggysFryBoy

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on June 24, 2022, 02:48:40 PM
Things which are not viable on their own are not alive and therefore cannot die.  You're here celebrating back alley abortions that will kill more desperate women.

Abortion is still legal in many states.  It's now a state decision.  Just like RBG wanted it to be.  And bless her heart for not retiring during the Obama + dem senate years.

pacearrow02

Quote from: Pakuni on June 24, 2022, 02:47:39 PM
Just as scary, the same justices issued a ruling this week that clears the way for cops to ignore Miranda without recourse.

Not exactly.  Just can't sue the cop personally.

pacearrow02

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on June 24, 2022, 02:48:40 PM
Things which are not viable on their own are not alive and therefore cannot die.  You're here celebrating back alley abortions that will kill more desperate women.

So you get in a car accident and need to be kept on life support.  Your body can no longer survive without the assistance of machines and others.  Let them die?

ZiggysFryBoy

Quote from: pacearrow02 on June 24, 2022, 02:52:12 PM
Not exactly.  Just can't sue the cop personally.

Regardless, miranda rights are so standard now, it should be considered just as much of the arrest process as handcuffs and fingerprints.  No cop should be arresting someone without miranda.

(Miranda was the name of the stripper dressed like a cop at wades' going away party, btw.)

Hards Alumni

Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on June 24, 2022, 02:51:15 PM
Abortion is still legal in many states.  It's now a state decision.  Just like RBG wanted it to be.  And bless her heart for not retiring during the Obama + dem senate years.

Why should I care what RBG thinks?  She was appointed to SCOTUS 21 years after Roe was decided.  She's just a person

I don't know why you are attempting to mythologize certain people on my behalf.

Uncle Rico

Ah, yes.  Margaret Sanger.  The classic whataboutism.  I suspect her views about race being shared by say, Tucker Carlson, don't matter then
Guster is for Lovers

Hards Alumni

Quote from: pacearrow02 on June 24, 2022, 02:53:50 PM
So you get in a car accident and need to be kept on life support.  Your body can no longer survive without the assistance of machines and others.  Let them die?

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on June 24, 2022, 02:44:05 PM
I'm not emotional, you're frustrating to talk to because your comprehension level is that of a kid half your age.

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on June 24, 2022, 02:40:14 PM
You're in way over your head here kiddo, sit this one out.

wadesworld

Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on June 24, 2022, 02:43:09 PM
Internet tough guy.

Put some sunscreen on and get to the capital square.

Sheesh talk about a lack of self awareness.

Billy Hoyle

#47
Quote from: Retire0 on June 24, 2022, 02:01:52 PM
Up next, gay rights. Some Americans are monsters.

you're really buying into that fearmongering? Did you already get the "donate now to save gay rights" emails as I did?

And you do know your hero Markus was the face of an anti-gay rights organization, FCA, right?
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on June 24, 2022, 03:01:57 PM
you're really buying into that fearmongering? Did you already get the "donate now to save gay rights" emails as I did?

I mean, Thomas made it clear that's next
Guster is for Lovers

Pakuni

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on June 24, 2022, 03:01:57 PM
you're really buying into that fearmongering? Did you already get the "donate now to save gay rights" emails as I did?

If you read the ruling, and Thomas' concurrence in particular - he literally calls for reconsideration of Obergfell, Griswold and Lawrence - you wouldn't be foolish enough to call it fearmongering.


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