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JWags85

Quote from: MU82 on May 17, 2022, 04:21:21 PM
I can't remember the last time I sat down and watched a ballgame. I'll tune in for the 9th inning of a close game, or watch an inning here or there, or watch the last few innings of a tight postseason game. But to sit there and watch 9 innings, as I used to do for years and years ... I simply can't do it anymore.

At this point I'm not sure what changes they could make to revive interest in guys like you and me, but we're probably not the audience they're shooting for when they do some of the things they're trying.

I knew multiple people when I was living in Chicago that watched EVERY White Sox game.  Every one.  My uncle watches EVERY Brewers game.  Its just baffling to me.

I'm a huge Cubs fan.  2016 was one of the best times of my life and one of 2 times I ever cried about sports.  Can always tell you how they're playing, their recent results, stats and lineups, etc..  But I don't think Ive ever watched more than 50 full regular season games live.  And that may be high.  Maybe if it was the only team or sport I truly cared about.

The Sultan

It's something to have on in the background on a summer evening. But that's about it unless it's playoff time.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

ZiggysFryBoy

Quote from: tower912 on May 17, 2022, 04:28:45 PM
I still do regularly.   I do that in lieu of getting into tons of shows on the streaming services.

Watching that many tigers games could be terrible for your health.

We pretty much have the Brewers on every night that we are home. 

Growing up, it was play baseball outside until 1 pm.  Come inside, get lunch, turn on WGN and watch the Cubs.  After the game, go back outside and play more baseball.

tower912

Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on May 17, 2022, 04:52:48 PM
Watching that many tigers games could be terrible for your health

Reminds me to stay patient and embrace the journey.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

MU82

Quote from: tower912 on May 17, 2022, 04:37:24 PM
$18 per?   I don't like you THAT much.
;D

I thought we'd be at a sports bar!

Quote from: NCMUFan on May 17, 2022, 04:38:32 PM
As a kid I loved watching all the Cubs games on WGN during the day with Jack Brickhouse. 
The Brew crew with the homerun bombers of the 1980s was also a lot of fun to watch.
Maybe the fact that NC doesn't have a mlb team has something to do with it.
Lots of minor league teams.

I stopped watching full ballgames on TV long before I moved to NC, but yeah living here does make MLB seem "far away."

When I was at MU, the Brewers were SO much fun to watch - Bambi's Bombers and Harvey's Wallbangers! We'd sit in the RF bleachers and get tons of BP souvenirs.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

cheebs09


MU Fan in Connecticut

I have the Yankees on pretty much every night.  I don't usually watch anywhere near the whole game, but take in a few innings.

muwarrior69

Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on May 18, 2022, 08:36:52 AM
I have the Yankees on pretty much every night.  I don't usually watch anywhere near the whole game, but take in a few innings.

I too am a Yankee fan and like you will take in a few innings. However, when I was a young kid I would watch not just a whole game but a doubleheader. Back in the 50s watching a game on TV was a novelty and watching not just the Yankees, but the Giants and Dodgers as well. Those Dodger/Giants games were fun to watch. I also looked forward to the annual All Star game when it was something special. The only night games back then were mostly on Fridays with a few on Tuesdays as well, but most games were day games that ended around 4 or 5 pm depending on the start time of the game.

The Sultan

Quote from: muwarrior69 on May 18, 2022, 09:27:21 AM
I too am a Yankee fan and like you will take in a few innings. However, when I was a young kid I would watch not just a whole game but a doubleheader. Back in the 50s watching a game on TV was a novelty and watching not just the Yankees, but the Giants and Dodgers as well. Those Dodger/Giants games were fun to watch. I also looked forward to the annual All Star game when it was something special. The only night games back then were mostly on Fridays with a few on Tuesdays as well, but most games were day games that ended around 4 or 5 pm depending on the start time of the game.


Since every game is on television, people aren't going to take time like they did back when it was a "novelty." 
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Dr. Blackheart

I think of all the sports, baseball will be permanently negatively impacted by COVID. The media announcers are just so bland and create no viewing excitement, with the ESPN crews the poster child of bland. The cost of in person attendance has outgrown its fans' ATMs.

After being locked down during COVID, a four or five hour investment in a baseball game (more for in person with travel time), just isn't worth it for many fans, especially for the experiences being offered. The DH made boring games even longer. And, young fans now moved to the suburbs to start families en masse.

Pakuni

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on May 18, 2022, 09:56:31 AM
I think of all the sports, baseball will be permanently negatively impacted by COVID. The media announcers are just so bland and create no viewing excitement, with the ESPN crews the poster child of bland. The cost of in person attendance has outgrown its fans' ATMs.

After being locked down during COVID, a four or five hour investment in a baseball game (more for in person with travel time), just isn't worth it for many fans, especially for the experiences being offered. The DH made boring games even longer. And, young fans now moved to the suburbs to start families en masse.

Replace "COVID" with "Strike" and this could have been written in 1995.
People have been predicting the demise of baseball for decades.

JWags85

Quote from: Pakuni on May 18, 2022, 10:30:08 AM
Replace "COVID" with "Strike" and this could have been written in 1995.
People have been predicting the demise of baseball for decades.

The 1995 strike didn't also have a draconian and moronic social media policy that misses out on HUGE opportunities to attract/engage fans at the same time

MUBurrow

I think service time and service time manipulation does legitimate damage to fan interest.  For losing teams, players who should get fans excited for the future have been buried in the minors for years.  Compared to the timing of the draft, its like having a marketing extravaganza for a summer movie blockbuster in April and May of this year, then stopping, then quietly releasing the movie in two years.  Sure lot players need legitimate work in the minors, but there's no reason for top prospects to languish for years.  If you're a fan of the Rays or the A's or another small market, smart drafting team, we need to find a way to get these guys into the majors earlier without punishing the team for bringing them up.

MU Fan in Connecticut

Quote from: Pakuni on May 18, 2022, 10:30:08 AM
Replace "COVID" with "Strike" and this could have been written in 1995.
People have been predicting the demise of baseball for decades.

The 1995 strike killed baseball in Montreal.

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