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Author Topic: New NIL Collective for MBB and WBB  (Read 11143 times)

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Re: New NIL Collective for MBB and WBB
« Reply #25 on: May 03, 2022, 04:59:32 PM »
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News: College leaders plan a crackdown on NIL collectives, sources tell @SINow.

Officials are exploring guidelines that reinforce that boosters are prohibited from recruiting. Schools not monitoring donors will be sanctioned for violating existing bylaws
https://bit.ly/3kIhkct
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Re: New NIL Collective for MBB and WBB
« Reply #26 on: May 03, 2022, 05:09:04 PM »
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News: College leaders plan a crackdown on NIL collectives, sources tell @SINow.

Officials are exploring guidelines that reinforce that boosters are prohibited from recruiting. Schools not monitoring donors will be sanctioned for violating existing bylaws
https://bit.ly/3kIhkct

It’s over.  The presidents and the NCAA kicked the can so far down the road, they have little to no recourse.  They can try and put the cat back in the box but there are about 25-30 schools that will walk away from the NCAA.  They’ll get their tails kicked in court. 
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Re: New NIL Collective for MBB and WBB
« Reply #27 on: May 03, 2022, 05:11:13 PM »
Ross Dellenger
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News: College leaders plan a crackdown on NIL collectives, sources tell @SINow.

Officials are exploring guidelines that reinforce that boosters are prohibited from recruiting. Schools not monitoring donors will be sanctioned for violating existing bylaws
https://bit.ly/3kIhkct

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Re: New NIL Collective for MBB and WBB
« Reply #28 on: May 03, 2022, 05:15:16 PM »
More like, the illusion is gone. People like magic shows though.

It was an illusion for sure, except there are those who think magic is real.  If the MBB NIL fund truly will be non-prophet status, tightwads like me are more likely to donate simply for tax purposes. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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Re: New NIL Collective for MBB and WBB
« Reply #29 on: May 03, 2022, 05:28:44 PM »
What next?  Wrestling isn't real?
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Re: New NIL Collective for MBB and WBB
« Reply #30 on: May 03, 2022, 05:34:33 PM »
It’s over.  They can try and put the cat back in the box

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Re: New NIL Collective for MBB and WBB
« Reply #31 on: May 03, 2022, 05:41:49 PM »
Schrodinger's cat?   College basketball is both alive and dead and we won't know until we open the box?


Then will it be like 'Seven'?     What's in the box?
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Re: New NIL Collective for MBB and WBB
« Reply #32 on: May 03, 2022, 05:42:32 PM »
Tis a shame, 'tis a rotton shame, for if ye can enjoy the walkin’ ye can probably enjoy the other times in yer life when ve're in between. And that's most o' the time; wouldn't ye say?

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Re: New NIL Collective for MBB and WBB
« Reply #33 on: May 03, 2022, 05:47:30 PM »
How long before we start seeing contracts?

Stay for X amount of years or you don't receive your funds.

or

Stay for X amount of years and get this bonus. Etc.
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Re: New NIL Collective for MBB and WBB
« Reply #34 on: May 03, 2022, 05:53:48 PM »
How long before we start seeing contracts?

Stay for X amount of years or you don't receive your funds.

or

Stay for X amount of years and get this bonus. Etc.

Hopefully soon!
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Re: New NIL Collective for MBB and WBB
« Reply #35 on: May 03, 2022, 06:07:52 PM »
Golden

I think we will see guys lose NIL before we have contracts. I am 99% certain there will be guys who cannot handle the money and things will get readjusted.
« Last Edit: May 04, 2022, 03:41:12 AM by Goose »

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Re: New NIL Collective for MBB and WBB
« Reply #36 on: May 03, 2022, 07:00:51 PM »
How long before we start seeing contracts?

Stay for X amount of years or you don't receive your funds.

or

Stay for X amount of years and get this bonus. Etc.

How long? Last week. Nijel Pack signed a two year, $800k deal.
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Re: New NIL Collective for MBB and WBB
« Reply #37 on: May 03, 2022, 09:43:16 PM »
I hope Diener & Co. don’t waste Scoop’s $3.5 million contribution.
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Re: New NIL Collective for MBB and WBB
« Reply #38 on: May 03, 2022, 09:53:12 PM »
How long? Last week. Nijel Pack signed a two year, $800k deal.

That was wasn't a mandatory 2 years though I don't think. I guess I meant like contracts that prevent earnings if the backtrack on their commitment during the contract.
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Re: New NIL Collective for MBB and WBB
« Reply #39 on: May 03, 2022, 09:57:35 PM »
I do not care how much money these guys get paid and it is up to MU get the funds needed. If MU wants to compete at a high level, they need to compete in the NIL. I am very surprised by all of the talk on this topic over the past weeks on Scoop. NIL is just another piece of the puzzle, no different than having proper budget for a coaching staff, recruiting, travel, etc. If MU cannot figure this out, they should turn over the keys to FF and play NAIA ball.

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Re: New NIL Collective for MBB and WBB
« Reply #40 on: May 03, 2022, 10:21:31 PM »
I do not care how much money these guys get paid and it is up to MU get the funds needed. If MU wants to compete at a high level, they need to compete in the NIL. I am very surprised by all of the talk on this topic over the past weeks on Scoop. NIL is just another piece of the puzzle, no different than having proper budget for a coaching staff, recruiting, travel, etc. If MU cannot figure this out, they should turn over the keys to FF and play NAIA ball.

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Re: New NIL Collective for MBB and WBB
« Reply #41 on: May 03, 2022, 10:27:20 PM »
That was wasn't a mandatory 2 years though I don't think. I guess I meant like contracts that prevent earnings if the backtrack on their commitment during the contract.

Until we see NIL deals that are more than the NBA can pay, this feels unlikely. And what high profile recruit/transfer would agree to multiple years if the NBA was an option after the first year?

Only way you see this is with an Emoni Bates/Markus Howard type that will be too young after their freshman year to declare for the league.
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Re: New NIL Collective for MBB and WBB
« Reply #42 on: May 04, 2022, 07:58:51 AM »
It seems that all the schools are forming these collectives and are competing against  each other. We could still have individual school collective, but could the Big East start its own collective to benefit the conference as a whole.

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Re: New NIL Collective for MBB and WBB
« Reply #43 on: May 04, 2022, 08:40:02 AM »
It seems that all the schools are forming these collectives and are competing against  each other. We could still have individual school collective, but could the Big East start its own collective to benefit the conference as a whole.

What donor would fund their alma mater's conference's collective over their alma mater's collective?
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Re: New NIL Collective for MBB and WBB
« Reply #44 on: May 04, 2022, 08:49:41 AM »
What donor would fund their alma mater's conference's collective over their alma mater's collective?

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Re: New NIL Collective for MBB and WBB
« Reply #45 on: May 04, 2022, 09:09:23 AM »
panda

Good call on the TV networks. That said, I think have a conference pool is not an idea that I would be in favor of supporting.
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Re: New NIL Collective for MBB and WBB
« Reply #46 on: May 04, 2022, 09:40:18 AM »
panda

Good call on the TV networks. That said, I think have a conference pool is not an idea that I would be in favor of supporting.

I don’t know if it could really hurt. Would you be able to distribute it any other way than equally across members?

It would possibly bring more talent to opposing schools versus other conferences, but even that could be a positive as it raises the profile of the conference and MU’s resume.

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Re: New NIL Collective for MBB and WBB
« Reply #47 on: May 04, 2022, 01:08:13 PM »
So can someone explain how exactly this would work? I'm struggling to understand where the NIL fund fits between its partners and student athletes.

Anyone?

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Re: New NIL Collective for MBB and WBB
« Reply #48 on: May 04, 2022, 01:37:41 PM »
Collectives are set up differently. From what I understand about this one, donations into the fund are used to pay SA for appearances at specific community organizational events.

Other collectives are set up as superfan clubs. For example if we all paid 20/mo for MUscoop fees (1000 X 20)=20K a month, this collective could pay Justin Lewis 10K a month to post here, and pay willie warrior 10K a month to argue with him.

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Re: New NIL Collective for MBB and WBB
« Reply #49 on: May 04, 2022, 01:41:47 PM »
Collectives are set up differently. From what I understand about this one, donations into the fund are used to pay SA for appearances  at specific community organizational events.

Other collectives are set up as superfan clubs. For example if we all paid 20/mo for MUscoop fees (1000 X 20)=20K a month, this collective could pay Justin Lewis 10K a month to post here, and pay willie warrior 10K a month to argue with him.
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