[Cracked Sidewalks] Move Fast & Break Things

[brewcity77]

Marquette is in a rare position and now is the time to go all-in on aggressive Name, Image, and Likeness action. It is imperative that Marquette be a leader in this space, and that donors force them into that position if the administration isn't willing to do it themselves. Cracked Sidewalks looks at why Marquette should lead based on the University's history, its mission, and the current legislation.

https://www.crackedsidewalks.com/2022/04/move-fast-break-things.html

[BrewCity83]

Great comprehensive analysis, Brew.  MU's gotta get on this now!

[Shooter McGavin]

Marquette is in a rare position and now is the time to go all-in on aggressive Name, Image, and Likeness action. It is imperative that Marquette be a leader in this space, and that donors force them into that position if the administration isn't willing to do it themselves. Cracked Sidewalks looks at why Marquette should lead based on the University's history, its mission, and the current legislation.

https://www.crackedsidewalks.com/2022/04/move-fast-break-things.html

Nice Brew!  MU does need to be all in for NIL to be a positive for our University. 

[Clam Crowder]

Where is the mention of when Mike B went after this pretty quickly?

[tower912]

Yep.  Broeker responded quickly.   

Which should be a reminder that these boards do get read.

[Shooter McGavin]

Yep.  Broeker responded quickly.   

Which should be a reminder that these boards do get read.

Tower,  where do you see the reply from Broeker?  Twitter?

[tower912]

Twitter.

[Shooter McGavin]

 

Twitter.

Thank you.  Appreciate the reply.

[Billy Hoyle]

Perhaps Marquette, with Olivier Maxence-Prosper already on campus and Ben Gold coming in, could find a similar way that Kentucky did to amend their visas and open the door for Marquette to become a more attractive destination for international recruits.


Yeah, it doesn't quite work like that.

[Hards Alumni]

Perhaps Marquette, with Olivier Maxence-Prosper already on campus and Ben Gold coming in, could find a similar way that Kentucky did to amend their visas and open the door for Marquette to become a more attractive destination for international recruits.


Yeah, it doesn't quite work like that.

Enlighten us.

[Uncle Rico]

Enlighten us.

There are ways to do it and Tshiebwe and his representatives have actually been working to get this law changed at a federal level.  It's basically the thesis of Brew's article, it's time for Marquette to get creative and aggressive in the NIL game like Kentucky did with Tshiebwe. 

[rocky_warrior]

Twitter.

C'mon man, provide a link, and quote if necessary.

https://twitter.com/mikebroeker/status/1519398013332041729?cxt=HHwWgsC5ka2c_pUqAAAA

Or maybe we are supporting NIL in a manner that is consistent with our guiding values.  Please don't make assumptions.  Just pick up a phone and ask.  More to come. 🏀🦅#mubb

Of course, there's a lot of TBD in his reply.  But I guess I should pick up the phone (and not look for Marquette's NIL app).

[mubb3434]

Marquette should hire someone who's job is only around building NIL partnerships, and managing the overall NIL program for MU. Lets leverage the relationships MU has with big powerful companies in the area and/or run by Alumni. I want Camping World, Harley, Bergstrom, <Insert Company Name Here> to have the full court press on getting MU basketball on the national stage.

[Shooter McGavin]

Marquette should hire someone who's job is only around building NIL partnerships, and managing the overall NIL program for MU. Lets leverage the relationships MU has with big powerful companies in the area and/or run by Alumni. I want Camping World, Harley, Bergstrom, <Insert Company Name Here> to have the full court press on getting MU basketball on the national stage.

I've been advocating for an entire separate division in the department of athletics since all this talk of NIL started.  You are either going to be a player or not. 

[Newsdreams]

I've been advocating for an entire separate division in the department of athletics since all this talk of NIL started.  You are either going to be a player or not.

Marq-U NIL is it

[rocky_warrior]

Marquette should hire someone who's job is only around building NIL partnerships, and managing the overall NIL program for MU. Lets leverage the relationships MU has with big powerful companies in the area and/or run by Alumni. I want Camping World, Harley, Bergstrom, <Insert Company Name Here> to have the full court press on getting MU basketball on the national stage.

I did ignore a call tonight from a 414 number.  It was probably someone trying to tap MUScoop funds for NIL.  If they don't know how to email, I won't respond.  Even then, I'm unlikely to respond.  Throw me a season box for 'scoop members, and maybe we'll talk.  Don't worry folks, I have your backs.

[GoFastAndWin]

Move Fast and Break Things?

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Is my Scoop NIL royalties check in the mail?
Please make payable to GoFastAndWin LLC or the Richard Dreyfus/Trotter Foundation 🐴
Trotter may be "tapped", but Jonathan Tap-lin wants his check too.

MUve Fast and Break Things!!!!$$$$

[1SE]

First of all - thanks Brew for starting a distinct thread for this and hopefully getting this talk out of the Justin thread where I go to see if there are big board updates, etc.

Second - good read but I think there is an angle to this that most folks on here aren't picking up on - and that's the supply issue and the absorptive capacity of rosters.

NIL is getting more kids to stay in school. Many more of 40 guys that think they're in the last 10 picks of the 2nd round are going to stay in school. Like you said, look at UNC. Look at Pack, look at Tshiebwe. But there are only so many roster spots and minutes to go around.

If UNC lost Davis and Love and Bacot it's not like they would have sucked next year. They probably would have grabbed one (or more) of the better transfers. Also - while it probably didn't have much of an effect this year - I wonder if guys sticking around longer won't start to put a chill on recruiting - if 5-star guys think they're going to have to sit in year 1 at UNC (and other bluebloods) because they have more upperclassmen then they might think about going somewhere else where they are more likely to get minutes.

NIL will keep more talent in the NCAA, but there are only so many minutes to dole out. That suggests the talent will spread. Also, there are only so many NIL dollars to go around - the top guys will get paid, but most were getting "paid" before.

All that said, I think MU does need to have a plan in place to be able to hang on to top "breakout" guys like Justin. It would be very telling if Justin pulls out of the draft but transfers elsewhere for NIL money. I think that is a risk but if MU only needs to pony up funds for 1 or 2 "studs" to keep them from bolting (no pun intended) that should be an easier task than bluebloods who will need to (continue) to come up with top NIL coin for 5 starters.

Long story short - I don't think MU needs to be overly aggressive here and that NIL will raise all boats/lead to MORE convergence by keeping more talent in college ball - some of which - by necessity of a finite amount of playing time - will disperse out beyond traditional blue-blood/1&done schools.

[muwarrior69]

Again, why offer scholarships at all; just include tuition as part of the NIL and there is no roster cap. That way scholarship money can be offered to those dental students, engineers etc. who actually will use their degree after graduation. As the article says move fast and break things, like putting in incentives for every NCCAT win. If playing time is an issue why have 13 when you can have 10 high performing players, but 13 seems right if a player is injured.

[brewcity77]

Perhaps Marquette, with Olivier Maxence-Prosper already on campus and Ben Gold coming in, could find a similar way that Kentucky did to amend their visas and open the door for Marquette to become a more attractive destination for international recruits.


Yeah, it doesn't quite work like that.

And yet Olivier Maxence-Prosper name jerseys are for sale at the Spirit Shop, so clearly there's some small efforts going on.

Broeker's response was expected. Any time things like this are discussed, it's all values and patience. But I went to Marquette. Aggressively advocating for your charges is a perfect fit for Jesuit values. And patience is the exact wrong tact to take right now when State legislation could hamstring efforts at any time. Get ahead of the legislation and if you have to moderate when Madison finally does something, at least you've done right by your student athletes in the window you have.

Jim Chones likely stays in 1972 with NIL. The reason to do this is because it is the RIGHT thing to do. Marquette dragging their feet and sticking to the wait and see mentality is doing wrong by the program and doing wrong by the student athletes.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Again, why offer scholarships at all; just include tuition as part of the NIL and there is no roster cap. That way scholarship money can be offered to those dental students, engineers etc. who actually will use their degree after graduation. As the article says move fast and break things, like putting in incentives for every NCCAT win. If playing time is an issue why have 13 when you can have 10 high performing players, but 13 seems right if a player is injured.

1. NIL doesn't come from the school

2. Giving out athletic scholarships doesn't take one penny from other scholarships,  in facts it creates more revenue to fund other scholarships

3. You keep implying that college athletes don't use their degrees.  Why do you assume that? Yes,  a few go pro in their sport. 99% end up going into something else most of which involves using their degree. You seem to think that all college athletes are unintelligent which is an awful stereotype

[MU82]

Marquette should hire someone who's job is only around building NIL partnerships, and managing the overall NIL program for MU. Lets leverage the relationships MU has with big powerful companies in the area and/or run by Alumni. I want Camping World, Harley, Bergstrom, <Insert Company Name Here> to have the full court press on getting MU basketball on the national stage.

Yep.

I've been advocating for an entire separate division in the department of athletics since all this talk of NIL started.  You are either going to be a player or not. 

Yep again. And not only for men's basketball. As we have come to understand NIL better, a surprising number of athletes not in basketball and football are benefiting from NIL, usually because of activity on social media.

I did ignore a call tonight from a 414 number.  It was probably someone trying to tap MUScoop funds for NIL.  If they don't know how to email, I won't respond.  Even then, I'm unlikely to respond.  Throw me a season box for 'scoop members, and maybe we'll talk.  Don't worry folks, I have your backs.

I'm pretty sure that call was to extend your warranty on Justin Lewis.

[Hards Alumni]

1. NIL doesn't come from the school

2. Giving out athletic scholarships doesn't take one penny from other scholarships,  in facts it creates more revenue to fund other scholarships

3. You keep implying that college athletes don't use their degrees.  Why do you assume that? Yes,  a few go pro in their sport. 99% end up going into something else most of which involves using their degree. You seem to think that all college athletes are unintelligent which is an awful stereotype

Because when confronted with things he doesn't understand, he falls back on his preconceived notions instead of trying to learn about those things.

He's the prototypical, "can't teach an old dog new tricks" kind of person.

[Newsdreams]

Again, why offer scholarships at all; just include tuition as part of the NIL and there is no roster cap. That way scholarship money can be offered to those dental students, engineers etc. who actually will use their degree after graduation. As the article says move fast and break things, like putting in incentives for every NCCAT win. If playing time is an issue why have 13 when you can have 10 high performing players, but 13 seems right if a player is injured.

Why would we want to be less desirable of an option against all other schools that give scholarship plus allow NIL? Besides athletic scholarship don't take a penny from academic scholarships. Maybe you don't understand how all of this works?

[muwarrior69]

1. NIL doesn't come from the school

2. Giving out athletic scholarships doesn't take one penny from other scholarships,  in facts it creates more revenue to fund other scholarships

3. You keep implying that college athletes don't use their degrees.  Why do you assume that? Yes,  a few go pro in their sport. 99% end up going into something else most of which involves using their degree. You seem to think that all college athletes are unintelligent which is an awful stereotype

...I know NIL doesn't come from the school but it still could pay for tuition. I'll concede that most college athletes don't get 100% free rides either and use their athletic scholarships to get an education, yet an NIL could help these students as well by paying for school costs through a sponsor not covered by the partial scholarship. MU mens basketball is in that 1% and if the school does not have to offer a player a full scholarship that money can be used to generate revenue to fund other scholarships as well. When I asked why offer scholarships it was in reference to MU basketball players and I know MU has good graduation track record thus far, but only 21% of NBA players have their degree and these are the players we are talking about and the HS and College players know this.

I'm not saying don't offer scholarships all I'm saying is that you don't have to and it could benefit everyone.

https://idswater.com/2020/02/02/what-percentage-of-the-nba-has-a-college-degree/