Sam Hauser against Bucks

[Elonsmusk]

Did he never watch Marquette before he arrived at Marquette?  The program his brother was playing for?  Did he not know what year Markus was when he committed to Marquette?

This is all reasonable.  Yet, I'd imagine knowing it going in, and then experiencing repeatedly not being passed the ball for a better shot, while watching Markus launch at will still was incredibly frustrating.

From my recollection you've never been a fan of hero ball.  Marquette under Markus was ultimately hero ball on steroids. 

Some here want to devalue the Hausers and are angry because their leaving derailed a pre-season Top 5 projection in 2020 by some college basketball experts.  After they left, under Markus's 1st Team All-American play, the team finished 8-10 in the Big East and lost 6 of its last 7.  So, one can say the Hausers never won big after leaving MU, but neither did Markus at MU.  Clearly they had a lot of value to MU/the team so its foolish for some to chide their abilities.

[Its DJOver]

DJO

Do you read my posts? Do you really think I care about have a "told you so" moment on scoop? I think my batting average on being right vs. wrong is OK, but plenty of missteps over the years. I do apologize for mentioning the Hauser/Howard saga because I stopped caring about that quite some time ago. I will not say when I stopped caring because I do not want to be called a liar if I am off by a month or two, but I have stopped caring about that season.

Now, I do hope I am proven correct with my support of Shaka. I will not quote the exact date I started supporting him, but I think I was an early occupant on the Shaka train. No, I want to retract being an early occupant because maybe I was not as early as I remember and do not want to be disingenuous.

Speaking of disingenuous, the Jan. 16th post was in a reply to my post on Sam being frustrated at the Buffalo game. As I noted in previous post, I backpedaled because I was in the minority in my opinion of Sam/Joey at the Buffalo game and that is what I was responding to in the 1/16 post. Sharing my earlier post might have put things into context.

As I said the posts are there.  You can interpret them however you will, I will interpret them how I will.  I'm sorry I upset you as evidence by your overly obvious sarcastic response.  I thought, and will continue to think that you were lying, because this is the internet, and everyone is always looking for an "I told you so" moment.

As for Shaka, I hope you're right and he can deliver.  Due to the experiences of the last decade of MUBB I will remain hesitant until I see a coach put together a complete season.  I think he is going about it the right way, building culture and targeting good fits for said culture, but at the end of the day, results are what will determine success/failure.

[Goose]

DJO

Happy Easter!

[Its DJOver]

DJO

Happy Easter!

Likewise.

[Goose]

DJO

That greeting was disingenuous on my part

[brewcity77]

I can envision the scenario where Markus was ripping into Joey about effort, and Joey responded in kind with: I didn't come here to play defense only, and watch you take 37% of the shots.  You want more effort, stop being a ball hog.

FIFY

[MU82]

Why do you think I "hate" Markus?  I don't. Yet to absolve him of any responsibility in the rift that occurred between him and Joey/Sam is illogical. 

I can envision the scenario where Markus was ripping into Joey about effort, and Joey responded in kind with: I didn't come here to play defense only, and watch you take 37% of the shots.  You want more effort, stop being a ball hog.

Virtually every player at the high major level was a prolific scorer in high school.  Virtually anyone who plays basketball finds shooting the ball/scoring fun.  Most players don't find playing defense "fun."

Vanilla Soft Serve was an OK freshman on a team with 2 junior standouts: one being one of the best players in the entire nation and the other being an outstanding forward. And the team was winning.

But Joey wanted his, and he ended up killing a great season with his whining, pouting, turnovers and his allergy to defense.

But sure, everyone involved could have handled Hausershima better, starting with the head coach.

[jesmu84]

This was a hell of a thread to read through in its entirety in one sitting

[4everwarriors]

Hait has know hom heer, hey?

[Lennys Tap]

Vanilla Soft Serve was an OK freshman on a team with 2 junior standouts: one being one of the best players in the entire nation and the other being an outstanding forward. And the team was winning.

But Joey wanted his, and he ended up killing a great season with his whining, pouting, turnovers and his allergy to defense.

But sure, everyone involved could have handled Hausershima better, starting with the head coach.

Joey killed the season, not the guy with the 40% usage who's game went south down the stretch or the coach who let it (encouraged it to) happen. You're one funny guy, Mike.

[The Sultan]

Joey killed the season, not the guy with the 40% usage who's game went south down the stretch or the coach who let it (encouraged it to) happen. You're one funny guy, Mike.

There is clearly blame to go around but Joey has run into issues at MSU as well as MU, and has clearly been disappointing for both programs.

[Newsdreams]

Joey killed the season, not the guy with the 40% usage who's game went south down the stretch or the coach who let it (encouraged it to) happen. You're one funny guy, Mike.

There were no issues before Joey got to MU. Halfway through the season I could tell he was an entitled pr*ck, then he f*ck it all up. Joey is an pretty boy period, has no where to go now.

[Lennys Tap]

There is clearly blame to go around but Joey has run into issues at MSU as well as MU, and has clearly been disappointing for both programs.

No disagreement there - I don't absolve Joey of any blame for our collapse. But to say that he's THE reason or even the biggest reason that season cratered just isn't true.

[Newsdreams]

No disagreement there - I don't absolve Joey of any blame for our collapse. But to say that he's THE reason or even the biggest reason that season cratered just isn't true.

BS he was the biggest reason an entitled pr*ck period. If you don't see it, well you have issues understanding human behavior.

[Lennys Tap]

BS he was the biggest reason an entitled pr*ck period. If you don't see it, well you have issues understanding human behavior.

We can't all just look at a guy and tell he's an entitled prick, Newsboy. That takes special talent. One that people who know the kid and have coached him evidently don't have.

Further, I disagree that I have issues understanding human behavior. I know biased, unfair and judgmental behavior when I see it.

[Viper]

Hait has know hom heer, hey?

sometimes a little hate is...good.

[Goose]

Lenny

There are double standards on Scoop. It is 100% acceptable by some to complete bash the Hauser's, especially Joey, with most having zero to little knowledge of what type of character they may or may not possess. On the other hand, if you question Lewis on his body language you are bashed in similar fashion. The bias shown by those who claim to be unbiased is very predictable to me every day on scoop.

[The Sultan]

Lenny

There are double standards on Scoop. It is 100% acceptable by some to complete bash the Hauser's, especially Joey, with most having zero to little knowledge of what type of character they may or may not possess. On the other hand, if you question Lewis on his body language you are bashed in similar fashion. The bias shown by those who claim to be unbiased is very predictable to me every day on scoop.

That's rich coming from the guy who claims he made an important observation about team chemistry after the Buffalo game but actually never did.

[Goose]

Fluff,
I actually did say Sam looked frustrated, see below. As for bashing someone's character vs. making a comment on a player being frustrated or possible team chemistry issues, I think there is a difference. As for my quote below, I do not think that was hard hitting attack on my part, simply an observation.


Hangin' at the Al / Re: Not surprised
« on: January 16, 2019, 08:46:41 AM »
IMO, the Hauser boys were licking their chops when Howard went down. There have been several times over the past month that I have felt Sam is frustrated with Howard and high shot output. Late in the Buffalo game it looked like when Sam got the ball he was going to pass it to anyone but Howard. No doubt in mind that Hauser boys are legit college big time college players.

[The Sultan]

Ah...so I guess "after the Buffalo game" is pretty broad then. 

[Goose]

Fluff

I stated yesterday that my timing was off on when it was posted. Again, unlike many on here, I admit being wrong in stating it was after the Buffalo game. It was three plus years ago and apologize for being off on my timing. That said, it obviously was something I noticed, or I would not have brought it up three weeks later.

[Pakuni]

Hait has know hom heer, hey?

Says the "crean sucks" guy.

[Pakuni]

Nm

[Uncle Rico]

Lenny

There are double standards on Scoop. It is 100% acceptable by some to complete bash the Hauser's, especially Joey, with most having zero to little knowledge of what type of character they may or may not possess. On the other hand, if you question Lewis on his body language you are bashed in similar fashion. The bias shown by those who claim to be unbiased is very predictable to me every day on scoop.

100% of my Hauser bashing is teal

[Goose]

82

Joey was an OK freshman? I think you may have had different thoughts when he actually was a freshman. If memory serves me, you thought he might end up in the NBA before he graduated from MU.