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Re: 2022-23 Non-Con Schedule
« Reply #100 on: June 29, 2022, 02:35:35 PM »
How can MU be playing Purdue AGAIN ?

( they have only played Iowa, Purdue and ILL , correct? ).  What a joke.

Why not MICH, or MSU or MINN … or even Nebraska ffs
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Re: 2022-23 Non-Con Schedule
« Reply #101 on: June 29, 2022, 03:39:05 PM »
In unexciting news Central Michigan on November 10th
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1542161196182290432?s=20&t=OCQ7Myv__2zvdGk27Z2cTg

There are definitely more low quality buy games on the schedule than I personally care for. I’m fine with these but they are too important from a metrics standpoint to use as “teaching” games. MU needs to step on the throat and win them all by 30+ if at all possible. Our lack of dominance in buy games has almost come back to cost us recently as dumb as that is.

As far as the Purdue game is concerned, it’s a joke from the perspective of the challenge. Less than zero effort was put into it making the matchups. However, Purdue is a great non-con opponent and it will be a good experience for the team to play at Mackey Arena. I’m very excited for that game already.


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Re: 2022-23 Non-Con Schedule
« Reply #102 on: June 29, 2022, 03:57:22 PM »
There are definitely more low quality buy games on the schedule than I personally care for.

I think there are three at the moment (LIU, CMU, Radford). I assume we will end up adding 2 or 3 more but at this point it's not a high amount.
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Re: 2022-23 Non-Con Schedule
« Reply #103 on: June 29, 2022, 04:08:19 PM »
I think there are three at the moment (LIU, CMU, Radford). I assume we will end up adding 2 or 3 more but at this point it's not a high amount.

The issue with the buy games is non of them are above average, and the tournament stuck us with LIU which is horrendous.

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Re: 2022-23 Non-Con Schedule
« Reply #104 on: June 29, 2022, 04:37:30 PM »
The issue with the buy games is non of them are above average, and the tournament stuck us with LIU which is horrendous.

True, but as long as we beat them by an appropriate amount we won't get dinged on our tournament metrics. For me, watching a 20 point drubbing of Illinois State isn't substantially more enjoyable than watching a 30 point drubbing of LIU.
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Re: 2022-23 Non-Con Schedule
« Reply #105 on: June 29, 2022, 06:44:11 PM »
Minnesota would have been fun, but I'm really excited to go to Mackey. Really fun schedule this year and some doable non-conference travel opportunities.

Silly that we never draw MN in the Gavitt Games
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Re: 2022-23 Non-Con Schedule
« Reply #106 on: June 29, 2022, 06:56:15 PM »
The issue with the buy games is non of them are above average, and the tournament stuck us with LIU which is horrendous.

and LIU just fired their coach today and hired Rod Strickland.

Silly that we never draw MN in the Gavitt Games

Minnesota, Iowa, and Illinois. But, we could be St. John's who has Nebraska once again.
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Re: 2022-23 Non-Con Schedule
« Reply #107 on: June 29, 2022, 07:19:19 PM »
Hoping for one big buy game. Not necessarily Buffalo or Vermont, but at least North Dakota State/Fresno State level. Beat the dregs by 30+, get one Q3 and we're fine.
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Re: 2022-23 Non-Con Schedule
« Reply #108 on: June 29, 2022, 07:27:58 PM »
I think there are three at the moment (LIU, CMU, Radford). I assume we will end up adding 2 or 3 more but at this point it's not a high amount.

Yeah, I guess that’s not bad at all. I thought there was more. I was checking the old schedules and saw in 2006-2007 MU had 11 buy games which also does not count a road game at Valpo. That is a brutal schedule.

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Re: 2022-23 Non-Con Schedule
« Reply #109 on: June 29, 2022, 07:38:08 PM »
Hoping for one big buy game. Not necessarily Buffalo or Vermont, but at least North Dakota State/Fresno State level. Beat the dregs by 30+, get one Q3 and we're fine.

Q3? we already have Utah on the schedule.

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Re: 2022-23 Non-Con Schedule
« Reply #110 on: June 29, 2022, 08:03:08 PM »
Q3? we already have Utah on the schedule.

Sure, but I think a Q3 buy game should be a minimum goal every year. Better would be all Q3, but that's pricey, so I'll be happy with one.
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Re: 2022-23 Non-Con Schedule
« Reply #111 on: June 29, 2022, 08:54:10 PM »
We have a lot of hard games on the non conference schedule. I would prefer some straight up cup cakes , where we can get a high deficiency win, to give the younger guys some minutes. If the cupcake as a q3
That would be icing on the cake
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Re: 2022-23 Non-Con Schedule
« Reply #112 on: June 29, 2022, 09:10:15 PM »
Tower … take a pill.  I mean , really what is your problem?

Are you glad to see them play Purdue year after year after year ?

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Re: 2022-23 Non-Con Schedule
« Reply #113 on: June 29, 2022, 10:39:21 PM »
Tower … take a pill.  I mean , really what is your problem?

Are you glad to see them play Purdue year after year after year ?

Weve played them twice since the 70s.

Is it great that the Gavitt has put us with Purdue 3 times since 2017 rather than playing different teams each time? No, not most ideal.

But better than being the Gophers who in the ACC and Gavitt routine get the same bottom dwellers.

At least we get quality opponents consistently.
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Re: 2022-23 Non-Con Schedule
« Reply #114 on: June 30, 2022, 02:04:30 AM »
Hoping for one big buy game. Not necessarily Buffalo or Vermont, but at least North Dakota State/Fresno State level. Beat the dregs by 30+, get one Q3 and we're fine.

I'd like to see us pay Vermont since it would be good for inter -family discussion.  ☺️

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Re: 2022-23 Non-Con Schedule
« Reply #115 on: June 30, 2022, 05:24:07 AM »
It’s both hilarious and sad that people pine for Minnesota. 

The Gophers are the the SLU / Dayton of the Big Ten. 

We’re Marquette, we should be pining for Michigan or Michigan State.  Why would we ever want to play Minnesota.  Give me Sparty or give me death.
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Re: 2022-23 Non-Con Schedule
« Reply #116 on: June 30, 2022, 06:02:55 AM »
Tower … take a pill.  I mean , really what is your problem?

Are you glad to see them play Purdue year after year after year ?
It was Illinois last year, Mr. Happy go lucky.   MU played Purdue in '17 and '19.   The two teams have split.    I am glad to see MU play against any big name school in the non-conference season. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gavitt_Tipoff_Games

MU's record and opponents.   
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Re: 2022-23 Non-Con Schedule
« Reply #117 on: July 01, 2022, 09:21:35 AM »
Fanta confirmed November 15th for Purdue.
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« Reply #118 on: July 03, 2022, 01:50:37 PM »
I'd like to see us pay Vermont since it would be good for inter -family discussion.  ☺️

Feel the same way about the Salukis!

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Re: 2022-23 Non-Con Schedule
« Reply #119 on: July 03, 2022, 08:04:55 PM »
I’m glad to have MU play any quality opponents.  Absolutely.  I’d just like some variety…. MICH , MSU … even
N western.

And … MU should generally schedule at
least one big 10 / 14 / 16 school per year ( not counting UW ).

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Re: 2022-23 Non-Con Schedule
« Reply #120 on: July 05, 2022, 10:31:49 AM »
Radford will be the opener on November 7. I'll update the opening post later.

  • November 7: Radford (H)
  • November 10: Central Michigan (H)
  • November 15: Purdue (A)
  • November 17: LIU-Brooklyn (H)
  • November 21: Georgia Tech/Mississippi State/Utah (N)
  • November 23: Georgia Tech/Mississippi State/Utah (N)
  • November 29: Baylor (H)
  • December 11: Notre Dame (A)
  • TBD: Wisconsin (H) **Likely Dec 3rd**

Brew, is the expecation that 2 more buy games will be added?
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Re: 2022-23 Non-Con Schedule
« Reply #121 on: July 05, 2022, 10:46:47 AM »
Brew, is the expecation that 2 more buy games will be added?

That's my personal expectation. With Bucky, ND, Purdue, and Baylor on the schedule, I don't see another home-and-home nor marquee neutral site game. But as the buy games are pretty soft, I'm hoping for at least one higher quality buy game. Historically, that was the trend under Wojo, and Shaka usually brought in multiple top-200 buy game opponents at Texas.
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Re: 2022-23 Non-Con Schedule
« Reply #122 on: July 05, 2022, 01:01:25 PM »
That's my personal expectation. With Bucky, ND, Purdue, and Baylor on the schedule, I don't see another home-and-home nor marquee neutral site game. But as the buy games are pretty soft, I'm hoping for at least one higher quality buy game. Historically, that was the trend under Wojo, and Shaka usually brought in multiple top-200 buy game opponents at Texas.

Historically we would lose a few of those buy games under wojo  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: 2022-23 Non-Con Schedule
« Reply #123 on: July 05, 2022, 01:08:45 PM »
Historically we would lose a few of those buy games under wojo  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Not really.  Historically we were usually good for about one blowout loss to a high major per year under Wojo (Iowa, I4, Maryland etc.), but the only two "buy" games we ever lost under him were Omaha in the third game of his career, and Belmont, which historically is one of the better "buy" games available.  Wojo's problem was that his record in March was very subpar, he was usually fine for most of Nov-Dec.

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« Reply #124 on: July 05, 2022, 01:11:41 PM »
Buzz and Crean lost buy games, too.  Annoyingly, it happens.
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