Marquette Crime Reports

[The Sultan]

Seriously? There have been an awful lot of posts mocking 4ever for even suggesting such a thing. Lot's of stories about how rough and hardscrabble the campus was in (fill in the year), too. And dismissive ones (It's an urban campus, urban areas always have crime problems). Nobody here (other than the President of the university and 4ever) has seemed concern at all.

I said "recent" increase. As in over the course of the semester or year.  Crime has been a factor at Marquette through much of its history and I don't believe what the University is facing now is significantly different that what it faced when I was in school. But 4ever acts like it's massively unprecedented somehow.

[4everwarriors]

I consider the use of guns in a crime as a significant threat to human life. If you've noticed, these crimes are being committed during daylight hours. How bold is that? Clearly those intent on robbery and/or bodily harm have no respect for human life. Should any of you, who continue to be in denial or want to minimize the significance of these events, were to be victimized, I'm certain you'd brown out your tidy whitey Jockeys quicker than cockroaches running in the kitchen when the lights are turned on.
The University is not located in Marquette, MI or De Pere. When significant bodily injury or worse is a result of these crimes, MU will be in big trouble. At a time when private schools are in competition for tuition dollars, can Marquette be any more than an "also ran," hey?

[ATL MU Warrior]

I consider the use of guns in a crime as a significant threat to human life. If you've noticed, these crimes are being committed during daylight hours. How bold is that? Clearly those intent on robbery and/or bodily harm have no respect for human life. Should any of you, who continue to be in denial or want to minimize the significance of these events, were to be victimized, I'm certain you'd brown out your tidy whitey Jockeys quicker than cockroaches running in the kitchen when the lights are turned on.
The University is not located in Marquette, MI or De Pere. When significant bodily injury or worse is a result of these crimes, MU will be in big trouble. At a time when private schools are in competition for tuition dollars, can Marquette be any more than an "also ran," hey?

So what is your solution to the problem?

[Uncle Rico]

So what is your solution to the problem?

To post on scoop about it hoping we fix it.  We can do it!

[real chili 83]

One solution the AD is working on is having teams live together in dorms.  They are working with ORL on this.  The thinking is student athletes have too much exposure/risk in today's Milwaukee  walking to early morning practices or back to their housing late in the evening after returning from a late game or a road trip.  Housing teams together affords greater opportunity to walk in groups, and less risk. 

Apparently this move has some "gray" to it as far as compliance goes, but the vibe put out is that is worth it compared to the perceived risk.

[The Sultan]

I consider the use of guns in a crime as a significant threat to human life. If you've noticed, these crimes are being committed during daylight hours. How bold is that? Clearly those intent on robbery and/or bodily harm have no respect for human life. Should any of you, who continue to be in denial or want to minimize the significance of these events, were to be victimized, I'm certain you'd brown out your tidy whitey Jockeys quicker than cockroaches running in the kitchen when the lights are turned on.

Again, this is not unprecedented in Marquette's history, but yes it is a troubling trend that has gotten worse lately not just in Milwaukee, but many other cities.

[wadesworld]

I consider the use of guns in a crime as a significant threat to human life. If you've noticed, these crimes are being committed during daylight hours. How bold is that? Clearly those intent on robbery and/or bodily harm have no respect for human life. Should any of you, who continue to be in denial or want to minimize the significance of these events, were to be victimized, I'm certain you'd brown out your tidy whitey Jockeys quicker than cockroaches running in the kitchen when the lights are turned on.
The University is not located in Marquette, MI or De Pere. When significant bodily injury or worse is a result of these crimes, MU will be in big trouble. At a time when private schools are in competition for tuition dollars, can Marquette be any more than an "also ran," hey?

I have been the victim of it.  15 years ago, if you can believe that crime happened way back then.

[jesmu84]

MU should work with/put pressure on local and state government with the goal of improving economic conditions for all, thus likely decreasing crime

[4everwarriors]

Why don't you just quit your job and join mission trips to the outer reaches of U.S. poverty and donate your skills and services to accomplish that end, hey?

[rocket surgeon]

MU should work with/put pressure on local and state government with the goal of improving economic conditions for all, thus likely decreasing crime

  so give everyone some more money...that oughta do it.  checks in the mail baby

  oh wow ma, lookee here, free money...thank God, saves me a trip to MU to cap any more arses and help myself to stuff that doesn't belong to me

problem solved?? 

dude, there are lots of job openings

[wadesworld]

  so give everyone some more money...that oughta do it.  checks in the mail baby

  oh wow ma, lookee here, free money...thank God, saves me a trip to MU to cap any more arses and help myself to stuff that doesn't belong to me

problem solved?? 

dude, there are lots of job openings

Yet there are also people who are threatened to lose their jobs for shaving their head.  So...

[rocket surgeon]

Yet there are also people who are threatened to lose their jobs for shaving their head.  So...

just another job opening then eyna?

[The Sultan]

  so give everyone some more money...that oughta do it.  checks in the mail baby

  oh wow ma, lookee here, free money...thank God, saves me a trip to MU to cap any more arses and help myself to stuff that doesn't belong to me

problem solved?? 

dude, there are lots of job openings

"Improving economic conditions for all" doesn't simply mean "free money."  Stop being simplistic.

[Uncle Rico]

  so give everyone some more money...that oughta do it.  checks in the mail baby

  oh wow ma, lookee here, free money...thank God, saves me a trip to MU to cap any more arses and help myself to stuff that doesn't belong to me

problem solved?? 

dude, there are lots of job openings

7 of 10

Good use of an expletive and ellipses.  Really hits a lot of good points.  Not your best effort but a solid drop into the conversation

[Pakuni]

There's a decent interactive tool on the Milwaukee PD website that allows you to check crime by neighborhood. Unfortunately, the data they provide only goes back to 2020 (or at least I haven't found older data yet), but it does offer some factual basis for whether things are indeed descending into chaos, as some here suggest, or not.
Here's what the numbers show for the combined Marquette and Avenues West neighborhoods.

Murder:
2020 - 1
2021 - 2

Rape:
2020 - 8
2021 - 7

Robbery:
2020 - 33
2021 - 28

Aggravated assault:
2020 - 94
2021 - 81

Burglary:
2020 - 48
2021 - 17

Theft/Larceny:
2020 - 90
2021 - 83

Motor vehicle theft:
2020 - 65
2021 - 118

Arson:
2020 - 2
2021 - 4

So, according to the Milwaukee Police Department, anyhow, rather than worsening, the frequency of serious crime around campus actually has fallen. In fact, outside a big spike in car thefts - not exactly the kind of "blood on the streets" stuff we've been told about here - crime in the area was down quite a bit.
Which isn't to say the area is Gooseville, but it never has been Gooseville.

To be fair, the data does show a small increase in YTD crime from 2021 to 2022, but it's not statistically significant (11 total offenses from eight categories). We can keep an eye out throughout the year.

Still, I'd love to see pre-2020 and historical data for the neighborhoods. If anyone knows where I can find it, please let me know.

[MU82]

I consider the use of guns in a crime as a significant threat to human life. If you've noticed, these crimes are being committed during daylight hours. How bold is that? Clearly those intent on robbery and/or bodily harm have no respect for human life. Should any of you, who continue to be in denial or want to minimize the significance of these events, were to be victimized, I'm certain you'd brown out your tidy whitey Jockeys quicker than cockroaches running in the kitchen when the lights are turned on.
The University is not located in Marquette, MI or De Pere. When significant bodily injury or worse is a result of these crimes, MU will be in big trouble. At a time when private schools are in competition for tuition dollars, can Marquette be any more than an "also ran," hey?

Pakuni has offered factual evidence that violent crime in the area actually decreased from 2020 to 2021. Do you have evidence showing otherwise?

Regardless, I'm just glad this thread has been re-opened so you have a platform for your "Marquette is a dystopian hellscape" narrative. Better here than in every other thread on the board.

[Goose]

I think you guys should be emailing Lovell on his overreaction letter yesterday rather than posting on why Doc and others are so wrong. He may be causing unwarranted concern for parents, and he should be called out on that.

[The Sultan]

I think you guys should be emailing Lovell on his overreaction letter yesterday rather than posting on why Doc and others are so wrong. He may be causing unwarranted concern for parents, and he should be called out on that.

Oy. Look I know you want to protect 4ever, and that's cute and all, but no one has said Lovell's communication was inappropriate.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Pakuni has offered factual evidence that violent crime in the area actually decreased from 2020 to 2021. Do you have evidence showing otherwise?

Regardless, I'm just glad this thread has been re-opened so you have a platform for your "Marquette is a dystopian hellscape" narrative. Better here than in every other thread on the board.

Yup. Old man nads and pakuni say nothing to worry about.  Mike Lovell and the MU admin fell different.

I'm going to side with the experts, nads and pakuni.

Piss off, Lovell, you big pūssy.

[Pakuni]

Yup. Old man nads and pakuni say nothing to worry about.  Mike Lovell and the MU admin fell different.

I'm going to side with the experts, nads and pakuni.

Piss off, Lovell, you big pūssy.

I literally said nothing of the sort.
Honesty not exactly your strong suit lately (ever?), is it?

[Pakuni]

I think you guys should be emailing Lovell on his overreaction letter yesterday rather than posting on why Doc and others are so wrong. He may be causing unwarranted concern for parents, and he should be called out on that.

Who knew the simple act of posting data would stir up such anguish.

[MU82]

I think you guys should be emailing Lovell on his overreaction letter yesterday rather than posting on why Doc and others are so wrong. He may be causing unwarranted concern for parents, and he should be called out on that.

I have repeatedly said that crime is always an issue on city campuses, including Marquette's, and I'm glad MU is working to keep it from getting worse on our campus.

Or we can post every incident on a basketball fan board, no matter how small the incidents may be, and claim that Marquette is a war zone - even though statistical evidence seems to show that's not true.

Again, I'm glad we have this thread so hopefully the postings are contained to it.

[withoutbias]

I just love that the people who are screaming that we need to be concerned about this can't come up with any solution for it, and when things are offered (common sense gun laws?) they say, "No!  Second Amendment!  Guns don't kill people, people kill people!  Why can't you admit there are bad people in the world and that guns can't 'cap' themselves?!  Gun laws don't work!"  Despite the statistics showing very much the contrary.

So what is the solution?  Just keep posting Tweets about crime?

There's a common theme to just about all of these.  Firearms are used.  Maybe...

Nevermind.  Second Amendment.

[jesmu84]

Only a fool would ignore the link between economics and crime

[jesmu84]

just another job opening then eyna?

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