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Herman Cain

Quote from: MU82 on May 01, 2022, 01:51:15 PM
Advantages to staying in the draft even if you're not a guaranteed first-rounder:

++ Many 2nd-round picks do make their NBA team, and if you do you get a nice start at that big second contract.

++ Some athletes would rather not have to deal with the responsibility of college classes and assignments.

++ Getting coached by and playing against pros, whether at the NBA or G League level.

There are plenty of advantages to staying in school, too. I'm glad Justin has an opportunity to make this decision for himself.
Also undrwfted free agents who secure  two way contracts they pay 1/2 a rookie contract . $462,500 this season
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

Pakuni

Quote from: MuggsyB on May 01, 2022, 12:05:21 PM
It seems to me there is no advantage to staying in the draft if you are not a guaranteed 1st rounder.  I'm biased but with the NIL he should be able to rack up some ad coin in Milwaukee.

NBA is guaranteeing money for a lot of second-round picks these days. These are the first 15 picks in last year's second round:

31. Washington Wizards: Isaiah Todd, F, G League Ignite: Signed
        Four-year, $6.89MM contract. First three years guaranteed.
32. Oklahoma City Thunder: Jeremiah Robinson-Earl, F, Villanova: Signed
        Four-year, $7.89MM contract. First two years guaranteed.
33.  Los Angeles Clippers: Jason Preston, G, Ohio: Signed
        Three-year, $4.46MM contract. First two years guaranteed.
34. New York Knicks: Rokas Jokubaitis, G, Lithuania: Will play overseas
35. New Orleans Pelicans: Herb Jones, F, Alabama: Signed
        Three-year, $5.32MM contract. First two years guaranteed.
36. New York Knicks: Miles McBride, G, West Virginia: Signed
        Three-year, minimum-salary contract. First two years guaranteed.
37. Charlotte Hornets: JT Thor, F, Auburn: Signed
        Four-year, $6.64MM contract. First two years guaranteed.
38. Chicago Bulls: Ayo Dosunmu, G, Illinois: Signed
        Two-year, minimum-salary contract. Fully guaranteed.
39. Sacramento Kings: Neemias Queta, C, Utah State: Signed
        Two-way contract.
40.  Utah Jazz: Jared Butler, G, Baylor: Signed
        Two-year, minimum-salary contract. Fully guaranteed.
41.  San Antonio Spurs: Joe Wieskamp, F, Iowa: Signed
        Two-way contract.
42  Detroit Pistons: Isaiah Livers, F, Michigan: Signed
        Three-year, $4.46MM contract. First two years guaranteed.
43. Portland Trail Blazers: Greg Brown, F, Texas: Signed
        Three-year, minimum-salary contract. First two years guaranteed.
44. Brooklyn Nets: Kessler Edwards, F, Pepperdine: Signed
        Two-way contract.
45. Boston Celtics: Juhann Begarin, G, France: Will play overseas
46. Toronto Raptors: Dalano Banton, G, Nebraska: Signed
        Two-year, minimum-salary contract. First year fully guaranteed. Second year partially guaranteed.
   
https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2021/08/2021-nba-draft-pick-signings.html

jfp61

Top half of the 2nd round makes more than any NIL deal out there in guaranteed money.

MU82

Quote from: Pakuni on May 01, 2022, 05:26:18 PM
NBA is guaranteeing money for a lot of second-round picks these days. These are the first 15 picks in last year's second round:

31. Washington Wizards: Isaiah Todd, F, G League Ignite: Signed
        Four-year, $6.89MM contract. First three years guaranteed.
32. Oklahoma City Thunder: Jeremiah Robinson-Earl, F, Villanova: Signed
        Four-year, $7.89MM contract. First two years guaranteed.
33.  Los Angeles Clippers: Jason Preston, G, Ohio: Signed
        Three-year, $4.46MM contract. First two years guaranteed.
34. New York Knicks: Rokas Jokubaitis, G, Lithuania: Will play overseas
35. New Orleans Pelicans: Herb Jones, F, Alabama: Signed
        Three-year, $5.32MM contract. First two years guaranteed.
36. New York Knicks: Miles McBride, G, West Virginia: Signed
        Three-year, minimum-salary contract. First two years guaranteed.
37. Charlotte Hornets: JT Thor, F, Auburn: Signed
        Four-year, $6.64MM contract. First two years guaranteed.
38. Chicago Bulls: Ayo Dosunmu, G, Illinois: Signed
        Two-year, minimum-salary contract. Fully guaranteed.
39. Sacramento Kings: Neemias Queta, C, Utah State: Signed
        Two-way contract.
40.  Utah Jazz: Jared Butler, G, Baylor: Signed
        Two-year, minimum-salary contract. Fully guaranteed.
41.  San Antonio Spurs: Joe Wieskamp, F, Iowa: Signed
        Two-way contract.
42  Detroit Pistons: Isaiah Livers, F, Michigan: Signed
        Three-year, $4.46MM contract. First two years guaranteed.
43. Portland Trail Blazers: Greg Brown, F, Texas: Signed
        Three-year, minimum-salary contract. First two years guaranteed.
44. Brooklyn Nets: Kessler Edwards, F, Pepperdine: Signed
        Two-way contract.
45. Boston Celtics: Juhann Begarin, G, France: Will play overseas
46. Toronto Raptors: Dalano Banton, G, Nebraska: Signed
        Two-year, minimum-salary contract. First year fully guaranteed. Second year partially guaranteed.
   
https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2021/08/2021-nba-draft-pick-signings.html

Yes, excellent point.

If I had what I felt was reliable information that I'd be drafted, and if I didn't really love playing college hoops, I'd want to go pro.

But sure, there could be advantages to staying, too -- mostly getting to try to improve one's stock, and getting to play more college hoops if one loves it.

As we all know, though, one also can hurt one's stock by staying another year.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Vander Blue Man Group

No news on Justin and the portal yet, I assume?

Shooter McGavin

This is for Herman.

Jeenathan Williams,  96th prospect on the Athletics NBA draft big board!

MuggsyB

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on May 01, 2022, 10:10:41 PM
No news on Justin and the portal yet, I assume?

I assume so but am wondering why we haven't heard anything?

cheebs09

Quote from: MuggsyB on May 02, 2022, 10:50:04 AM
I assume so but am wondering why we haven't heard anything?

Is there really a need for someone to say they haven't entered the portal? I would assume no news is good news.

This is purely speculation, but I have to imagine Justin is pretty bought into Shaka's style of coaching. It sounds like Shaka made him a priority and Justin really improved this last year.

Spotcheck Billy

#933
Quote from: 4everwarriors on April 30, 2022, 05:47:42 PM
Yeah butt now, ya don't know hoo's a broad and hoo's a dude. Sometimes ya just gotta stand 'em on der head and take a look, hey?

you sound like my grandfather did in 1960's

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: MuggsyB on May 02, 2022, 10:50:04 AM
I assume so but am wondering why we haven't heard anything?

What would there be to hear? He has until June to decide if he's coming back or not
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on May 02, 2022, 11:11:31 AM
What would there be to hear? He has until June to decide if he's coming back or not

I think the point is since the deadline has passed and there is no news of him entering the portal, is it safe to assume he didn't and that his options are the draft or Marquette at this point?

Herman Cain

Quote from: Shooter McGavin on May 02, 2022, 10:47:48 AM
This is for Herman.

Jeenathan Williams,  96th prospect on the Athletics NBA draft big board!
Thanks. Excellent News.
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

The Sultan

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on May 02, 2022, 11:28:12 AM
I think the point is since the deadline has passed and there is no news of him entering the portal, is it safe to assume he didn't and that his options are the draft or Marquette at this point?

Yes
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on May 02, 2022, 11:28:12 AM
I think the point is since the deadline has passed and there is no news of him entering the portal, is it safe to assume he didn't and that his options are the draft or Marquette at this point?

Quote from: Clarissa on May 02, 2022, 11:45:29 AM
Yes

Yes,  though he could get a waiver still. But if you were planning on transferring why not just meet the deadline to cover your bases?
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


4everwarriors

"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Herman Cain

Some of the NBA combine invites are dribbling out ; Ron Harper Jr , Julian Champagnie  mentioned in article .

https://www.nj.com/rutgersbasketball/2022/05/ron-harper-jr-invited-to-nba-draft-combine.html

Seton Hall Rock Rhode gets a G League combine invite

https://www.nj.com/setonhall/2022/05/seton-hall-notebook-jared-rhoden-invited-to-nba-g-league-combine-brandon-weston-tyler-powell-latest-in-transfer-portal.html

Hopefully Justin gets an NBA combine invite soon
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

lawdog77

Quote from: wadesworld on April 29, 2022, 11:06:07 PM
You appear to be wong.
Its funny that John Ruiz stated he's not going to renegotiate his NIL deal with Wong, and that he can't tell the press on how much that current deal is for. But he can tell us what Pack's deal is for, and that there are all of these:
   
University

Sport

Position

# of Months

Total Payment

Alanys Viera   Miami   Volleyball   Setter   12   $6,000.00
Andres Borregales   Miami   Football   Kicker   12   $18,000.00
Angela Grieve   Miami   Volleyball   Outside Hitter   12   $6,000.00
Brashard Smith   Miami   Football   Wide Receiver   12   $40,000.00
Carson Palmquist   Miami   Baseball   Left-handed Pitcher   4   $6,000.00
Chase Smith   Miami   Football   Striker   12   $30,000.00
Clay James   Miami   Football   Long Snapper   12   $12,000.00
Cleveland Reed   Miami   Football   Offensive Line   12   $42,000.00
Cyrus Moss   Miami   Football   Defensive End   12   $36,000.00
Delon Scaife   Miami   Football   Offensive Line   12   $43,000.00
DJ Ivey   Miami   Football   Cornerback   12   $43,000.00
Don Chaney Jr   Miami   Football   Running Back   12   $30,000.00
Don Chaney Jr*   Miami   Football   Running Back   12   $10,000.00
Elijah Arroyo   Miami   Football   Tight End   12   $40,000.00
Frank Ladson, Jr.   Miami   Football   Wide Receiver   12   $40,000.00
Gilbert Frierson   Miami   Football   Striker   12   $50,000.00
Jacey Hinton   Miami   Swim   Freestyle   12   $6,000.00
Jacob Lichenstin   Miami   Football   Defensive Line   12   $36,000.00
Jacolby George   Miami   Football   Wide Receiver   12   $40,000.00
Jahfari Harvey   Miami   Football   Defensive Line   12   $36,000.00
Jake Garcia   Miami   Football   Quarterback   24   $50,000.00
Jake Garcia*   Miami   Football   Quarterback   24   $10,000.00
Jake Garland   Miami   Baseball   Right-handed Pitcher   4   $6,000.00
Jalen Rivers   Miami   Football   Offensive Line   12   $43,000.00
James Williams   Miami   Football   Safety   12   $43,000.00
Jaylan Knighton   Miami   Football   Running Back   12   $40,000.00
Kahil Brantly   Miami   Football   Tight End   12   $18,000.00
Kamren Kinchens   Miami   Football   Safety   12   $43,000.00
Keontra Smith   Miami   Football   Striker   12   $18,000.00
Keyshawn Smith   Miami   Football   Wide Receiver   12   $45,000.00
Leonard Taylor   Miami   Football   Defensive Line   12   $40,000.00
Leonard Taylor*   Miami   Football   Defensive Line   12   $10,000.00
Malik Curtis   Miami   Football   Cornerback   12   $12,000.00
Marcus Clarke   Miami   Football   Cornerback   12   $18,000.00
Mason Napper   Miami   Football   Long Snapper   12   $2,500.00
Matthew Antezana   Miami   Football   Defensive Line   12   $2,500.00
Michael McLaughlin   Miami   Football   Offensive Line   12   $12,000.00
Morgan Pankow   Miami   Golf      12   $15,000.00
Morgan Pankow*   Miami   Golf      12   $15,000.00
Nijel PackMiamiMBBGuard 24 800,000 plus car

Ousman Traore   Miami   Football   Offensive Line   12   $12,000.00
Rivaldo Fairweather   FIU   Football   Tight End   12   $40,000.00
Robbie Ashton Prosek II   Miami   Football   Tight End   12   $5,000.00
Romello Brinson   Miami   Football   Wide Receiver   12   $40,000.00
Ryan Rodriguez   Miami   Football   Offensive Line   12   $18,000.00
Te'Cory Couch   Miami   Football   Cornerback   12   $18,000.00
Thaddius Franklin   Miami   Football   Running Back   12   $40,000.00
Tirek Austin Cave   Miami   Football   Linebacker   12   $12,000.00
Tyler Van Dyke   Miami   Football   Quarterback   12   $40,000.00
Tyler Van Dyke*   Miami   Football   Quarterback   12   $20,000.00
Tyrese Chambers   FIU   Football   Wide Receiver   12   $40,000.00
Tyrique Stevenson   Miami   Football   Cornerback   12   $45,000.00
Waynmon Steed   Miami   Football   Linebacker   12   $18,000.00
Wesley Bissainthe   Miami   Football   Linebacker   12   $30,000.00
Will Mallory   Miami   Football   Tight End   12   $42,000.00
Xavier Restrepo   Miami   Football   Wide Receiver   12   $40,000.00
Zion Nelson   Miami   Football   Offensive Line   12   $43,000.00

muwarrior69

Quote from: lawdog77 on May 02, 2022, 02:52:20 PM
Its funny that John Ruiz stated he's not going to renegotiate his NIL deal with Wong, and that he can't tell the press on how much that current deal is for. But he can tell us what Pack's deal is for, and that there are all of these:
   
University

Sport

Position

# of Months

Total Payment

Alanys Viera   Miami   Volleyball   Setter   12   $6,000.00
Andres Borregales   Miami   Football   Kicker   12   $18,000.00
Angela Grieve   Miami   Volleyball   Outside Hitter   12   $6,000.00
Brashard Smith   Miami   Football   Wide Receiver   12   $40,000.00
Carson Palmquist   Miami   Baseball   Left-handed Pitcher   4   $6,000.00
Chase Smith   Miami   Football   Striker   12   $30,000.00
Clay James   Miami   Football   Long Snapper   12   $12,000.00
Cleveland Reed   Miami   Football   Offensive Line   12   $42,000.00
Cyrus Moss   Miami   Football   Defensive End   12   $36,000.00
Delon Scaife   Miami   Football   Offensive Line   12   $43,000.00
DJ Ivey   Miami   Football   Cornerback   12   $43,000.00
Don Chaney Jr   Miami   Football   Running Back   12   $30,000.00
Don Chaney Jr*   Miami   Football   Running Back   12   $10,000.00
Elijah Arroyo   Miami   Football   Tight End   12   $40,000.00
Frank Ladson, Jr.   Miami   Football   Wide Receiver   12   $40,000.00
Gilbert Frierson   Miami   Football   Striker   12   $50,000.00
Jacey Hinton   Miami   Swim   Freestyle   12   $6,000.00
Jacob Lichenstin   Miami   Football   Defensive Line   12   $36,000.00
Jacolby George   Miami   Football   Wide Receiver   12   $40,000.00
Jahfari Harvey   Miami   Football   Defensive Line   12   $36,000.00
Jake Garcia   Miami   Football   Quarterback   24   $50,000.00
Jake Garcia*   Miami   Football   Quarterback   24   $10,000.00
Jake Garland   Miami   Baseball   Right-handed Pitcher   4   $6,000.00
Jalen Rivers   Miami   Football   Offensive Line   12   $43,000.00
James Williams   Miami   Football   Safety   12   $43,000.00
Jaylan Knighton   Miami   Football   Running Back   12   $40,000.00
Kahil Brantly   Miami   Football   Tight End   12   $18,000.00
Kamren Kinchens   Miami   Football   Safety   12   $43,000.00
Keontra Smith   Miami   Football   Striker   12   $18,000.00
Keyshawn Smith   Miami   Football   Wide Receiver   12   $45,000.00
Leonard Taylor   Miami   Football   Defensive Line   12   $40,000.00
Leonard Taylor*   Miami   Football   Defensive Line   12   $10,000.00
Malik Curtis   Miami   Football   Cornerback   12   $12,000.00
Marcus Clarke   Miami   Football   Cornerback   12   $18,000.00
Mason Napper   Miami   Football   Long Snapper   12   $2,500.00
Matthew Antezana   Miami   Football   Defensive Line   12   $2,500.00
Michael McLaughlin   Miami   Football   Offensive Line   12   $12,000.00
Morgan Pankow   Miami   Golf      12   $15,000.00
Morgan Pankow*   Miami   Golf      12   $15,000.00
Nijel PackMiamiMBBGuard 24 800,000 plus car

Ousman Traore   Miami   Football   Offensive Line   12   $12,000.00
Rivaldo Fairweather   FIU   Football   Tight End   12   $40,000.00
Robbie Ashton Prosek II   Miami   Football   Tight End   12   $5,000.00
Romello Brinson   Miami   Football   Wide Receiver   12   $40,000.00
Ryan Rodriguez   Miami   Football   Offensive Line   12   $18,000.00
Te'Cory Couch   Miami   Football   Cornerback   12   $18,000.00
Thaddius Franklin   Miami   Football   Running Back   12   $40,000.00
Tirek Austin Cave   Miami   Football   Linebacker   12   $12,000.00
Tyler Van Dyke   Miami   Football   Quarterback   12   $40,000.00
Tyler Van Dyke*   Miami   Football   Quarterback   12   $20,000.00
Tyrese Chambers   FIU   Football   Wide Receiver   12   $40,000.00
Tyrique Stevenson   Miami   Football   Cornerback   12   $45,000.00
Waynmon Steed   Miami   Football   Linebacker   12   $18,000.00
Wesley Bissainthe   Miami   Football   Linebacker   12   $30,000.00
Will Mallory   Miami   Football   Tight End   12   $42,000.00
Xavier Restrepo   Miami   Football   Wide Receiver   12   $40,000.00
Zion Nelson   Miami   Football   Offensive Line   12   $43,000.00

All those guys except one will be switching to basketball.

Goose

muwarrior69

I was thinking the same thing. As I have mentioned several times, I think the bulk of the money goes to football guys and the typical schools will get basketball money. i do not think we will crazy competition in the BE in the NIL world. Time will tell.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.



TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


BM1090

I do think there's a decent chance he's back. He's smart to go through the process and get feedback, but there's a reason he hired an NCAA certified agent. 50/50 IMO.

MuggsyB

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on May 02, 2022, 08:04:44 PM
It's a joke

Damn.  I now have to recalibrate everything. 

The Sultan

Quote from: BM1090 on May 02, 2022, 08:06:41 PM
I do think there's a decent chance he's back. He's smart to go through the process and get feedback, but there's a reason he hired an NCAA certified agent. 50/50 IMO.

Aren't many NBA agents now NCAA certified?  Regardless he's with ROC Nation, which reps a lot of NBA guys.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

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