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MarquetteMike1977

Saint Bonaventure's Osun Osunniyi transferring to Iowa State. RIP Bob Lanier

Tha Hound

MU is out of the race for Abogidi

Jon Rothstein
@JonRothstein
Washington State transfer Efe Abogidi tells me that he's considering the following programs:

Arizona
Maryland
Florida

Also considering a return to Washington State.

Boone

W/possible exception of his WA St teammate, Mouhamed Gueye, haven't seen us involved w/any other transfers.

If Lewis doesn't return, we may hit a new low in team rebounding.

Pakuni

Greg to Pitt.


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Marquette transfer Greg Elliott tells me that he has committed to Pitt.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: Pakuni on May 17, 2022, 01:40:11 PM
Greg to Pitt.


@JonRothstein
Marquette transfer Greg Elliott tells me that he has committed to Pitt.

This is really gonna mess with me getting on board with the Eat Sh!t Pitt cheer.

Herman Cain

Quote from: Pakuni on May 17, 2022, 01:40:11 PM
Greg to Pitt.


@JonRothstein
Marquette transfer Greg Elliott tells me that he has committed to Pitt.
Excellent landing spot for Greg.

Nice feather in Jake Presutti's hat for leading the charge .
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brewcity77

Quote from: Pakuni on May 17, 2022, 01:40:11 PM
Greg to Pitt.


@JonRothstein
Marquette transfer Greg Elliott tells me that he has committed to Pitt.

That seems like a poor choice. Their top two offensive options are back, so he likely won't meet the best player on a bad team criteria, they won't be good so he won't get the Theo John roleplayer going for a title option, while he could've stepped down a level and had a better chance at both leading a team and vying for a NCAA berth. Guess he really likes Jake.

Pakuni

Quote from: brewcity77 on May 17, 2022, 02:15:20 PM
That seems like a poor choice. Their top two offensive options are back, so he likely won't meet the best player on a bad team criteria, they won't be good so he won't get the Theo John roleplayer going for a title option, while he could've stepped down a level and had a better chance at both leading a team and vying for a NCAA berth. Guess he really likes Jake.

Crazy thought, but maybe his ego doesn't require him to feel like he's the best player on a low-level team. Maybe he just chose a place where he thinks he'll be happy.

brewcity77

Quote from: Pakuni on May 17, 2022, 02:22:18 PM
Crazy thought, but maybe his ego doesn't require him to feel like he's the best player on a low-level team. Maybe he just chose a place where he thinks he'll be happy.

Could be. But after watching Jamal Cain win Horizon POY and both Koby McEwen and Jose Perez named to all-conference teams, it seems like a step down would be the best from a career perspective. Greg can do what he wants, just feels surprising considering the options.

Its DJOver

Every time you think you know what an 18-23 year old is going to do, they'll do something different.  My advice, stop trying to guess what an 19-23 year old will do.  Hope Greg can enjoy his final spin through a collegiate season.
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Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on February 06, 2025, 06:04:29 PMthe stats bear that out, but

Pakuni

Quote from: brewcity77 on May 17, 2022, 02:25:16 PM
Could be. But after watching Jamal Cain win Horizon POY and both Koby McEwen and Jose Perez named to all-conference teams, it seems like a step down would be the best from a career perspective. Greg can do what he wants, just feels surprising considering the options.

How does being a top option on a low-level team improve his career? Pro league scouts don't care what kind of stats you put up in college, especially as a fifth-year senior.

BrewCity83

Quote from: Its DJOver on May 17, 2022, 02:26:38 PM
Every time you think you know what an 18-23 year old is going to do, they'll do something different.  My advice, stop trying to guess what an 19-23 year old will do.  Hope Greg can enjoy his final spin through a collegiate season.

So we may still make guesses on the 18 year olds?
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brewcity77

Quote from: Pakuni on May 17, 2022, 02:29:19 PM
How does being a top option on a low-level team improve his career? Pro league scouts don't care what kind of stats you put up in college, especially as a fifth-year senior.

Plenty of stars from low-level teams have parleyed that success into professional careers. Maybe not in the NBA, but it can certainly open doors.

Skip Intro

Quote from: brewcity77 on May 17, 2022, 02:40:37 PM
Plenty of stars from low-level teams have parleyed that success into professional careers. Maybe not in the NBA, but it can certainly open doors.

Jamal is a good example of this, since he's working out for NBA teams this spring.  I can't see that happening had he not gone to Oakland and dominated.

That being said, I think Greg knows he's not Jamal, so the appeal of stepping down might not be the same.  Greg's role at Cleveland St. might have been bigger, but I don't see him winning Horizon POY.  Now he'll get meaningful minutes in one of the best conferences in the nation, and he'll be a veteran leader.

panda

The book is out on Greg - He's not going to shine in a leading role at any level. Go somewhere where you can be comfortable, appreciated and happy.

Pakuni

Quote from: brewcity77 on May 17, 2022, 02:40:37 PM
Plenty of stars from low-level teams have parleyed that success into professional careers. Maybe not in the NBA, but it can certainly open doors.

And plenty of kids that didn't even start in college, or put up meager stats while there, have become NBA starters and millionaires. (see: Devin Booker, Zach LaVine, Patrick Williams).
The small school kids who made it professionally didn't make it because they put up a bunch of stats at a small school. They made it because they're good.
College production doesn't matter. If you're talented, teams will find you and you'll get paid.
Greg lighting up a mid- or low-major conference isn't going to fool pro teams into thinking he's better than he is.

rocky_warrior

Or maybe Pitt had the best NIL program of all his options...

brewcity77

Quote from: Pakuni on May 17, 2022, 03:09:15 PMGreg lighting up a mid- or low-major conference isn't going to fool pro teams into thinking he's better than he is.

It won't fool NBA teams or teams with extensive scouting, but there are plenty of smaller professional leagues that don't have that type of access and if you can show you were a big time scorer at an American college, it could get you a job and contract. It's not that dissimilar from how some high school coaches will just make up and inflate rebounding and other numbers to try to help their players get college offers (which absolutely does happen).

tower912

Quote from: rocky_warrior on May 17, 2022, 03:19:30 PM
Or maybe Pitt had the best NIL program of all his options...
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Pakuni

Quote from: Skip Intro on May 17, 2022, 02:59:30 PM
Jamal is a good example of this, since he's working out for NBA teams this spring.  I can't see that happening had he not gone to Oakland and dominated.

Despite dominating at Oakland, Jamal wasn't invited to either the NBA Combine or G League Combine.

panda

Quote from: brewcity77 on May 17, 2022, 03:27:38 PM
It won't fool NBA teams or teams with extensive scouting, but there are plenty of smaller professional leagues that don't have that type of access and if you can show you were a big time scorer at an American college, it could get you a job and contract. It's not that dissimilar from how some high school coaches will just make up and inflate rebounding and other numbers to try to help their players get college offers (which absolutely does happen).

There's various combines which college players with professional aspirations go through following their last year in college which give them live access to those players. Teams either go to those combines or players get signed by reputable agents after the combines which then get shopped to smaller teams overseas. There's a lot of vetting that goes into the process.

Skip Intro

Quote from: Pakuni on May 17, 2022, 03:34:37 PM
Despite dominating at Oakland, Jamal wasn't invited to either the NBA Combine or G League Combine.

True, but he's getting workouts with at least one NBA team (the Hawks), and that probably wouldn't have happened had he not done so well at Oakland.  In my mind, that's incentive for certain players to drop down in competition.  Now, is Greg one of those players - I'd say no.  I think he knows who he is, and his goals are different than "play as many minutes and score as many points as possible".  If they weren't, he wouldn't have stayed at MU for as long as he did.


The Sultan

Quote from: Skip Intro on May 17, 2022, 03:48:53 PM
True, but he's getting workouts with at least one NBA team (the Hawks), and that probably wouldn't have happened had he not done so well at Oakland.

I don't know about that.  Jamal had well know athleticism before transferring.  Working a player out isn't that much of an investment in time or money.  IMO, the fact that he only has one says more than anything.  Kur Kuath has had two for goodness sakes.
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panda

NBA teams need extra bodies to work out the guys who they're actually interested in. It means very little to get an NBA workout.

cheebs09

Maybe he wants to go to Cameron Indoor for a game (Not sure Pitt's schedule). Or the Dean Dome with fans.

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